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Are the "unofficial" servers down, then? I thought those were still up. Edit: Ah, they still are. Was kinda hoping they'd been taken down, too.
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It feels like some of you people are acting like "playing an optional minigame sidequest a long time to get a really good thing" has never been done before in an RPG
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Mar 11, 2017 05:41
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SirPhoebos posted:So in what is supposed to be a fan game designed to challenge experienced players...that challenge goes straight out the window by allowing a player to acquire a Legendary-tier Pokemon not by fighting it, but by doing an easily-solvable minigame a bunch of times and just buying it. It puts the first post's BS Overheat-slinger in perspective though 
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Mar 11, 2017 05:43
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Color Printer posted:It feels like some of you people are acting like "playing an optional minigame sidequest a long time to get a really good thing" has never been done before in an RPG OFS in fact consistently does this to break games open.
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Mar 11, 2017 05:43
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Mediocre but heavily optimized stats? Perfectly reasonable. Insanely good typing that's been limited to box legendaries up until now? Ok, why not. Extremely strong boosting moves that are enough to lift something entire tiers of viability? Uh, mmmmaaaaybe... loving Speed Boost? 
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Mar 11, 2017 05:49
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just wait until it evolves and turns in a TRUCKASAURUS SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY COME ON DOWN TO WATCH THIS MECHANICAL MONSTROSITY RUN ROUGHSHOD OVER MANY SMALL ANIMALS AND CRUSH THE DREAMS OF QUITE A LOT OF CHILDREN it doesn't actually evolve into a truckasaurus but at least i can dream
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Johnny Joestar posted:it doesn't actually evolve into a truckasaurus but at least i can dream way to dash my dreams with spoilers 
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Mar 11, 2017 05:56
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HardDiskD posted:way to dash my dreams with spoilers if this thing actually evolved further from what it already is then the creator of uranium would definitely qualify for needing to get their head checked
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Mar 11, 2017 05:59
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Johnny Joestar posted:just wait until it evolves and turns in a TRUCKASAURUS dammit you actually had my hopes up 
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Mar 11, 2017 06:02
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GeneX posted:That backhoe is the key to breaking this game in half
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Some Numbers posted:The Gen 1 Game Corner is in Celadon, so you could get a Porygon before fighting Erika. Were you also able to get a Dratini from there or was that one of the later ones? Color Printer posted:It feels like some of you people are acting like "playing an optional minigame sidequest a long time to get a really good thing" has never been done before in an RPG The only casino I've found myself constantly grinding and making progress with is Dragon Quest 8's so I never really bothered with the ones in Pokemon. The fact that I only got up to Gen 4 probably had something to do with that though. RareAcumen fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Mar 11, 2017 |
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Mar 11, 2017 06:11
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RareAcumen posted:Were you also able to get a Dratini from there or was that one of the later ones? You could, but the Dratini line is pretty terrible in game thanks to evolving super late and Dragonite being kind of unimpressive in Gen 1.
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WrightOfWay posted:You could, but the Dratini line is pretty terrible in game thanks to evolving super late and Dragonite being kind of unimpressive in Gen 1. I mean, in Gen 1 the only Dragon-type move was Dragon Rage, so while Dragonite still was decent defensively (as long as you avoided Ice Beams) you literally did not have a STAB option, nor did you have the usual neutral-effectiveness fallback move that Dragons love to exploit. Then again, if you killed an enemy with Hyper Beam, there was no recharge turn, and base 134 attack is nothing to laugh at. With that, it's potentially on par with Snorlax for Gen 1 beam spam, except it evolves way too drat late.
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To be fair, that's been an issue with almost all the really good triple evolution dragons. By the time it finally hits its final evolution and you get your 600 stat monster you're done, or nearly done, with the main game as a whole. At least until SuMo came along and you can acquire a lvl 9-12 Salamence on the very first island with some effort.
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Mar 11, 2017 07:17
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Lord Koth posted:To be fair, that's been an issue with almost all the really good triple evolution dragons. By the time it finally hits its final evolution and you get your 600 stat monster you're done, or nearly done, with the main game as a whole. Yeah but Jangmo-o is in the last patch of grass before the last trial in the game. Which is why i bred-up about 40 of them and wonder traded them away, go have fun little jimmy.
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SirSamVimes posted:So, I decided to get in on this shitshow and decided to check if there was any way to trigger trade evolutions with the servers down from the DMCA. I found that cheatengine would allow it, but jesus christ look at this.
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Mar 11, 2017 07:43
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Kurieg posted:Yeah but Jangmo-o is in the last patch of grass before the last trial in the game. ...So you wonder traded them a bunch of lvl 1 stage 1(out of 3) dragons that don't evolve until 35/45. Congrats? As opposed to a goddamn fully evolved dragon that is just randomly available on the first island through S.O.S. battles at levels far below where it normally evolves at. I'm not talking about catching and using Bagon here (though that's obviously an option too; and Goomy on island 2), I'm talking about you can literally catch Salamence at those levels. Stage 1 dragons are not very good, even with the neat typing on that one.
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Mar 11, 2017 08:15
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A belated tribute to the late PUSSYMASHER.
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Mar 11, 2017 08:16
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Here lies PUSSYMASHER He never scored
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Mar 11, 2017 08:18
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Lord Koth posted:Stage 1 dragons are not very good, even with the neat typing on that one. Bagon was perfectly serviceable in Ruby/Sapphire, the problem was that Ruby/Sapphire did weird things with evolutions like making Shelgon stupidly weak and not tanky enough to make up for it, or making Vigoroth better than its evolved form just because Slaking's ability is literal dead weight.
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Mar 11, 2017 08:21
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Always felt bad for all the kids that must have gone through gen 3 with a vigoroth on their team without knowing what was coming. They were probably happy at first to see it evolve 
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Mar 11, 2017 08:31
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Color Printer posted:It feels like some of you people are acting like "playing an optional minigame sidequest a long time to get a really good thing" has never been done before in an RPG This. C'mon you guys you still need to grind 9999 coins so the reward goddamn better be worth it. It is overtooled though, that much is certain. Motor Drive and Shift Gear seems like a combo for hilarity though.
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Mar 11, 2017 08:38
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KataraniSword posted:Bagon was perfectly serviceable in Ruby/Sapphire, the problem was that Ruby/Sapphire did weird things with evolutions like making Shelgon stupidly weak and not tanky enough to make up for it, or making Vigoroth better than its evolved form just because Slaking's ability is literal dead weight. Slaking at least is basically a box legendary, so noting ingame is remotely a threat to it and it just kinda demolishes everything in its path.
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Lord Koth posted:...So you wonder traded them a bunch of lvl 1 stage 1(out of 3) dragons that don't evolve until 35/45. Congrats? As opposed to a goddamn fully evolved dragon that is just randomly available on the first island through S.O.S. battles at levels far below where it normally evolves at. I'm not talking about catching and using Bagon here (though that's obviously an option too; and Goomy on island 2), I'm talking about you can literally catch Salamence at those levels. They gave people a Pokemon that was highly desired and not normally available until the end of the game. It's not a race to get the first pseudo, nor were they even trying to upstage you. Overly defensive, much?
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Mar 11, 2017 08:54
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What I'd like to know is how is it legal to bring in what is clearly a robot into a Pokemon battle.
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freshlybaked posted:What I'd like to know is how is it legal to bring in what is clearly a robot into a Pokemon battle. I can bring my friend Golurk so why can't I bring my friend MEGAWEAPON?
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Mar 11, 2017 09:56
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In response to that, I present the Magnemite line. Robots can be Pokemon too.
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also porygon is a manmade, artificial pokemon and everyone uses that just fine
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Mar 11, 2017 10:04
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An incredibly fast steam shovel, you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXyx75CVybs
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Back to Dragonite in Gen 1: that was the most annoying son of a bitch to play against since the only reason to ever use it was loving wrap and it's asinine Gen 1 mechanics that lock you and your opponent out of doing anything but switching into another wrap for 32 turns (unless they miscount and underflow the pp giving you 63 more shots). Agility makes it faster than any unboosted pokemon so all you need is one setup turn you get a fate worse than Wobbuffet staring contests.
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I mean dragonite also looks cool in all its stages and has surf access to free up that party requirement without using a water type. It had pretty good tm access in a game with terrible move pools as well if memory serves.
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Endorph posted:also porygon is a manmade, artificial pokemon and everyone uses that just fine Oh, I had forgotten. Nowadays, I like to imagine that after the first one was made, they somehow reproduced and stalk urban areas.
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:
 The one true MegaWeapon
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Porygon isn't even the only man-made pokemon. Castform, Type:Null/Silvally,... and that doesn't even count things like Genesect which was heavily modified, or Voltorb which is literally a pokeball that spontaneously gained life.
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Zore posted:Porygon isn't even the only man-made pokemon. Castform, Type:Null/Silvally,... and that doesn't even count things like Genesect which was heavily modified, or Voltorb which is literally a pokeball that spontaneously gained life. Also grimer, muk, trubbish, and garbodor...all pokémon that are sentient pollution.
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Mar 11, 2017 13:59
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FoolyCharged posted:I mean dragonite also looks cool in all its stages and has surf access to free up that party requirement without using a water type. Speaking of hilarious TM coverage, a reminder that if you transfer it from Gen 1 to your Box, your Nidoking or Nidoqueen can use Pay Day, because Pay Day was a TM in Blue and only Blue.
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Aerdan posted:Also grimer, muk, trubbish, and garbodor...all pokémon that are sentient pollution. That's actually a bit of a grey area in the "manmade" vs "natural" argument, given how heavily Pokémon bases things off Japanese mythology. Depending on the depiction, literally anything that has existed for a long enough time can gain a spirit of its own and become a tsukumogami, and while Japan itself has been cleaning up a lot in the past 30 or 40 years, its pollution issues were bad. Like, China or metropolitan USA levels of bad. It might be depressing to think "this pile of sludge/this garbage heap has been around for over a century and has attained sentience" but I think it's honestly the underlying design decision behind them. Koffing and Weezing too, really.
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Color Printer posted:It feels like some of you people are acting like "playing an optional minigame sidequest a long time to get a really good thing" has never been done before in an RPG It's in the wild in Victory Road. It'd still be just as busted then.
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Well...they're all still based on human byproducts. Porygon could date from the 70s at the earliest. I'd estimate that the Pokémon universe's tech level is a few decades ahead of our own, given that they have things like an effective universal cure for venoms and toxins, as well as devices that instantly restore Pokémon to top condition. As such, it could be argued that porygon is also blurring the lines between manmade and natural. 
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:It's in the wild in Victory Road. I'm imagining a place in the world just teeming with wild, rampaging construction equipment.
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