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Even pyro felt fairly integral in highlander games (though this was the mode that forced you to have one). It was usually a babysitter type of role for highlander, but if your pyro was a weak link you certainly felt it. If anything it's an example of the problems with designing one character largely as an explicit counter to another.
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All other things aside, the thing I have always preferred about Overwatch in relation to TF2 is that the game was designed from the ground up to be balanced around the mobility the majority of the characters in the game have access too. Rocket jumping is cool poo poo and I spent hours upon hours practicing wall jumping as Soldier on those training servers, but that kind of access to obscene mobility that was only available to 2 of the 9 classes was a loving terrible decision. It basically made Soldier/Demoman/Scout the only correct choices in the game if you had even the mildest inclination towards getting better.
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Semper Fudge posted:Rocket jumping is cool poo poo and I spent hours upon hours practicing wall jumping as Soldier on those training servers, but that kind of access to obscene mobility that was only available to 2 of the 9 classes was a loving terrible decision. It basically made Soldier/Demoman/Scout the only correct choices in the game if you had even the mildest inclination towards getting better. poo poo, look at TFC and conc-grenades. Now that was a warped meta in combination with the jump-strafe/Bunnyhopping exploit. Fortress Forever tried to fix the issues to make an interesting TFC:Source style game, but it still devolved to the same classes and chokepoint style gameplay.
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Rocket jumping is awesome and I'm not good at it even after spending hours on those servers so overwatch it is.
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Thor-Stryker posted:poo poo, look at TFC and conc-grenades. Now that was a warped meta in combination with the jump-strafe/Bunnyhopping exploit. It didn't help that Fortress Forever was effectively smothered in its crib when Valve released the TF2 demo 2 weeks later. I absolutely love TFC to death, but the biggest problem and one they never addressed in Fortress Forever was the Medic just being 100% the best pick every time for offense. Defense had a bit more diversity and I genuinely enjoyed the choke point style gameplay, but for that style of gameplay to not be infuriating as offense you had to have a firm grasp of all the movement abilities, from the basics like conc jumping to advanced stuff like ramp sliding and bunnyhopping Coincidentally TF2 didn't do poo poo to help the Pyro or Spy be actually useful in a competitive setting either  .
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TheKingofSprings posted:I think the Pyro took the biggest nerf out of any one class post Demo changes. The Axtinguisher nerf was only a matter of time, since an Axtinguisher hit on a burning enemy effectively one-shotted 8 of the 9 classes. The only surprise about it is that it took so long.
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i just played no limits on hanamura defense and we went 4x symmetra 1x torb 1x ana and it was the most fun hanamura has ever been
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kumba posted:i just played no limits on hanamura defense and we went 4x symmetra 1x torb 1x ana and it was the most fun hanamura has ever been Was it fun for offense?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Was it fun for offense? Turns out they were on offense.
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SKULL.GIF posted:Was it fun for offense? gently caress the red team.
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So LootCrate has some Overwatch stuff this month. https://www.lootcrate.com/subscription-crates/gaming Thought some of you guys might like to jump in.
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wow... a funkopop? goodbye all of my money for that extremely epic, extremely ugly figurine
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LootCrate has always confused me. I already have too much useless junk cluttering up my living space. Why would I pay someone to send me more? Is it for the joy of opening a mystery box?
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Skippy McPants posted:LootCrate has always confused me. I already have too much useless junk cluttering up my living space. Why would I pay someone to send me more? You are the exact opposite of their target demo then? I mean, you're like a vegan asking why steakhouses even exist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yjWDnxl_NQ the answer is "gamers" are idiots with zero impulse control who will buy any schlocky crap they can
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4-6 Items from the Biggest and Best Gaming Universes $60+ in Retail Value Licensed & Exclusive Collectibles and Gear for 25.99 who says no?
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ToastyPotato posted:You are the exact opposite of their target demo then? I mean, you're like a vegan asking why steakhouses even exist. That's a fair point, I suppose.
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Up Circle posted:
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I did one for like 6 months that was mostly hair and shaving product samples but sometimes they'd throw in iphone charging cables, socks, and other stuff that I've actually gotten a lot of use out of. I never used the shaving stuff cus I have a beard but I did use a lot of the hair products. But it was also $30 a month and it wasn't worth it to continue. I can't imagine spending $26 a month on toys that are either going to clutter up my space or go in the trash. Of course, I say this as I continue to buy golf clubs that I don't need so take my advice with a grain of salt.
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Constantine XI posted:The dawn of the nano boosted in your face Junkrat meta is almost upon us! I can't wait! I've got my golden Junk gun and everything! 
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Is Junkrat's nade speed adjustable on custom servers and have people messed with that? Any trip reports with making it faster?
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ToastyPotato posted:Is Junkrat's nade speed adjustable on custom servers and have people messed with that? Any trip reports with making it faster? Anyone's projectiles can be messed with. Putting the projectile speed at max actually makes it really hard to aim his gun cause the grenades shoot upwards so if you want to shoot more ahead of you you need to aim toward the floor
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Skippy McPants posted:LootCrate has always confused me. I already have too much useless junk cluttering up my living space. Why would I pay someone to send me more? This is a good example of how lame Loot Crate can get, with the awful rear end box that Ashen got. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97PlypCTMEA The next month wasn't much better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpaAhIn4brI In actual Overwatch nwes, I am loving the new Sombra in PTR. She still has her weak rear end gun, but her skills a lot more fine tuned now.
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A character with a shortish-range railgun-type weapon that can shoot through walls after a short charge period.
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Can't get out of the hell that is 1500-2000 sr. Any tips?
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Milosh posted:Can't get out of the hell that is 1500-2000 sr. Any tips? Three options: Play a general dps like soldier or Pharah and make big plays Play Roadhog or Hanzo and reliably get picks on high priority targets Play Reinhardt and learn when to push in and make big plays with your ult on offenses d how to control the flow of battle on defense Those are the best three ways to "carry" in Overwatch.
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Milosh posted:Can't get out of the hell that is 1500-2000 sr. Any tips? I only play in discord groups with goons.
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Gildiss posted:I only play in discord groups with goons. Yeah but the goons that play regularly are high enough that sub-gold can't queue up with them. That's why I'm grinding up to Gold
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Lost like 4 in a row. I think a lot of it is no one wants to heal so I get stuck doing that and get nothing out of it.
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Milosh posted:Can't get out of the hell that is 1500-2000 sr. Any tips? It depends whats keeping you in that range. There are -so- many variables to explore and juggle. If you are actually decent aiming and mechanics, then focus on positionining(probably the most rank-segregating aspect beyond basics), team wrangling through communication and ult coordination, and morale management. Don't ever walk forward alone, actually use your team mates, always be positive, keep up morale, give yourself a nice ten minute warm-up in a non-competitive mode to get your focus set and hands warm. Tab often to keep track of both enemy composition, and ally ults. Play characters you enjoy, but pick ones that work with your team lineup in any individual game. At least buddy up with someone on the team to play off their strengths. For example, if someone is playing a good Soldier, pick Ana and stick with them, use their biotic field and nanovisor. But most importantly, accept that you will inevitably lose, but don't become a loser. The second you find yourself getting frustrated, wanting to rage, or depressed, you've let your ego invest itself in the outcome of games superficially and it will sour your fun and experience, sabotaging your future games. Stop, take a breather, let it go to find the fun and humor in the game or you'll become just another toxikid. D.Ork Bimboolean fucked around with this message at 05:03 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Minrad posted:wow... a funkopop? goodbye all of my money for that extremely epic, extremely ugly figurine You get the Cute But Deadly Tracer figurine in in March, and the Cute But Deadly Pharah figurine in April from what it looks like. Both alone go for $20 on Amazon. I guess that's in addition to the Sporty Tracer Funko? That one is pretty rare. I might spring on both boxes just for the Cute But Deadly figures. [edit] How does loot teagone fucked around with this message at 07:39 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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ToastyPotato posted:I always felt that mod was 100x better than Action HL/Quake but it never seemed as popular. Action HL is my all time fav mod, but I also dig The Specialists a lot. They go for different things, even though they're stylistically similar. I'd like to see more new games in that John Woo/action movie style of flavor. Speaking of underrated mods, Team Fortress Classic was awesome. TF2 was also awesome, but never really hear about TFC these days. (except on the last page of this fine topic) Buff Reaper's shotguns by the way, it's only right. Hog got his shotty improved there, gotta keep Reaper in the game. Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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You could also do kung fu. My name came from a server that apparently assigned random names to anyone who went in with the default name (I was testing my install and forgot to change it.)
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Heavy Metal posted:Action HL is my all time fav mod, but I also dig The Specialists a lot. They go for different things, even though they're stylistically similar. I'd like to see more new games in that John Woo/action movie style of flavor. I loved TFC and played it for years, some of it in clans as well. Fond memories of guarding the elevator in 2fort and having insanely complicated messaging bindings so I could tell my team if someone went past.
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Dude on reddit posted this picture of him hitting 2401  (also apparently the portrait doesn't currently get updated anymore after this point)
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Milosh posted:Lost like 4 in a row. I think a lot of it is no one wants to heal so I get stuck doing that and get nothing out of it. Don't do this. If you feel like you're being forced to be a healer because not a single player on your team is willing to even consider it, don't - just play a class you like and try to have some fun with the inevitable loss. Either someone else will switch after a couple of minutes, or everyone else on your team will trickle into fights one at a time for the entire game with absolutely no sense of teamwork whatsoever. Either way, at least you get to play a class you're good at and maybe even have a little fun, instead of spending the entire round as a nigh-defenseless single healer trying helplessly to herd your idiot teammates.
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