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So I did not much like the first Mass Effect game since I went basically pure guns and found it really boring as a result. Since then I basically avoided the main trilogy. Now, the opportunity to jump into the franchise at basically a new starting point has me intrigued, so I was curious to know how the series' gameplay has improved since the first game and if Andromeda could appeal to somebody who was turned off at an earlier juncture?
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Mar 12, 2017 18:36
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SgtSteel91 posted:So take this with a grain of salt if you want but the backwards gun may have been deliberate beacuse of some bizzare ESRB censorship issue. Apparently advertisement videos like the PAX gameplay showcase are not allowed to show a gun being pointed directly at the camera for fear of being threatening in nature of the subject matter towards an audience. So this was a workaround Bioware did specifically for the presentation, attempting to not make it obvious. It's funny either way. The fact that people are latching on to these and doing their best to create "lol gmae is bad" memes is telling that they're not interested in discussing the game at all. The only thing I've seen that I don't like is that you can't change companion guns. I guess they're all going like Varric having a weapon that just gets better rather than having to upgrade and give them others. I guess everyone has their own Jessie now.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:39
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Arglebargle III posted:Making the "it sold a lot of units therefore it's good" argument before release, a bold strategy! It doesn't matter if it's good or not, my post is a reply to the general atmosphere of "this game is gonna fail hard heh  "Game could be mediocre, yeah, but the odds of it failing financially and critically are slim to none.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:40
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Wonder if my i5 2500k will hold up for this. I have a 1070 in the machine. But I've seen the CPU be a noticeable bottleneck on some newer titles. I could play it on the ps4 pro. But I assume it's going to be locked at 30fps. =/
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Mar 12, 2017 18:42
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8-Bit Scholar posted:So I did not much like the first Mass Effect game since I went basically pure guns and found it really boring as a result. Since then I basically avoided the main trilogy. The gameplay got a whole lot better. And this game won't lock you into just one set of powers since you'll be able to choose any of them that appeal to you. It appears that it's also going to be less "hunker down in cover" and more about moving around the battlefield.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:46
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8-Bit Scholar posted:So I did not much like the first Mass Effect game since I went basically pure guns and found it really boring as a result. Since then I basically avoided the main trilogy. Regardless of what people think about the story, the gameplay has continuously improved since the first game. The different weapons feel quite different from each other now, and the gunplay feels much better. The powers feel less like MMO abilities and more like cool shooter abilities. It's hard to explain without playing it or a video I think but the combat gameplay is now more "shootery" than "RPG-y". I think you should buy the game on release day for Origin, play it for a couple hours, and then either keep it, or return it under the great game guarantee to never be seen again, or return it and wait for a sale if it was ok but not worth 60bux to you.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:49
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8-Bit Scholar posted:So I did not much like the first Mass Effect game since I went basically pure guns and found it really boring as a result. Since then I basically avoided the main trilogy. Vanguard Charge Vanguard Charge Vanguard Charge Vanguard Charge Vanguard Charge loving DO IT loving VANGUARD CHARGE EVERY DAY EVERY DAY EVERY DAY gently caress chest high walls you are your own wall by charging and by wall I mean energy rocket but your body is the ammo and your soul the ignition IGNITE YOUR SOUL VANGUARD CHARGE Seriously going from ME1 and its various methods of "Just shoot them" to ME2 and being able to Charge enemies was the best ring of endorsement I could have ever gotten from these games. I think ME1 has the better story of the three, but ME2 is most definitely the best single player game. ME3's multiplayer is just really loving excellent and I'm super proud I was onboard that bullshit train from day one.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:51
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Even ME2s soldier build is way more fun than any ME1 class. Combat was pretty much a complete overhaul of everything for ME2. ME2/ME3 combat still holds up as some of the best shooter gameplay to this day IMO. Only thing more fun for me was DOOM.
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Mar 12, 2017 18:56
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8-Bit Scholar posted:So I did not much like the first Mass Effect game since I went basically pure guns Not sure what platform you're on, but you can probably pick up a copy of ME3 for really cheap. Since you didn't play the series ignore the SP and try out the MP - that's gonna give you an idea of how MEA's combat will go (minus jetjumping). There are also some combat/gameplay videos out now you can look at to see if it's something you might like, with the caveat that the devs playing the game are really bad at it 
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Mar 12, 2017 18:57
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frajaq posted:I loving wish someone like Obsidian would make a scifi game but they seem to only do fantasy stuff these days Good news is Obsidian's parent company bought out White Wolf and recieved all the assets for Vampire: Bloodlines. If we're lucky, we'll get a sequel by Obsidian to one of the best 2004 western fps/RPGs.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:05
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If anyone is playing ME1 again, no joke, just cheat. Give yourself ridiculous credits, levels, powers, whatever, just go and enjoy the story. a bit OT: I remember that the gameplay lead of ME2 had a blog or something which she commented a lot about the changes, how they wanted to greatly increase the pace and create a bit of tactics to make it more engaging, and was pretty much one of the main people around that made the massive improvements in 2 and 3. Googling about her, she left Bioware after ME3 in 2011 and was the main welp I had with Andromeda, but thankfully her approach seemed to stay on.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:11
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Codependent Poster posted:It's funny either way. The fact that people are latching on to these and doing their best to create "lol gmae is bad" memes is telling that they're not interested in discussing the game at all. To be honest, we don't have much to talk about until we receive release/demo footage that isn't hidden behind press release asskissing. Which is bioware's fault because they made sure to be quiet about it until right before release.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:12
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Thor-Stryker posted:Good news is Obsidian's parent company bought out White Wolf and recieved all the assets for Vampire: Bloodlines. If we're lucky, we'll get a sequel by Obsidian to one of the best 2004 western fps/RPGs.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:12
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Fresh Shesh Besh posted:I'm now inspired to blitz through 1, 2, and 3 before release. Good luck getting it done in time. I've been slowly working through a trilogy replay the last month or so. Not sure if I'll finish before I have to leave town on Wednesday.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:13
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Basic Chunnel posted:Not happening in the next 4 years, in all likelihood It'll be kickstarted or crowdfunded sometime around 2018-19 and release around 4 years later.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:14
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Thor-Stryker posted:Good news is Obsidian's parent company bought out White Wolf and recieved all the assets for Vampire: Bloodlines. If we're lucky, we'll get a sequel by Obsidian to one of the best 2004 western fps/RPGs. Obsidian doesn't have a parent company; they're independent. Paradox published Pillars and Tyranny, but that relationship isn't guaranteed to continue, especially as Obsidian is apparently interested in becoming a publisher themselves.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:27
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Thor-Stryker posted:Good news is Obsidian's parent company bought out White Wolf and recieved all the assets for Vampire: Bloodlines. If we're lucky, we'll get a sequel by Obsidian to one of the best 2004 western fps/RPGs. Paradox Interactive doesn't actually own Obsidian. efb
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Mar 12, 2017 19:27
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I can't see them loving up the multiplayer, but 60 bucks just for multi is harrumphing. I feel like five bucks to play the demo and a mirror's edge game I had no idea existed is a good move
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Mar 12, 2017 19:28
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I look forward to this being my next RPG addiction since beating TW3 last year!
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Mar 12, 2017 19:29
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Kainser posted:Paradox Interactive doesn't actually own Obsidian. Yeah I got confused there for a moment wondering what they were talking about. Not that I would mind even one bit if that very thing happened.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:31
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Norns posted:Wonder if my i5 2500k will hold up for this. I have a 1070 in the machine. But I've seen the CPU be a noticeable bottleneck on some newer titles. You'll be fine if the 2500k is overclocked. I have a similar setup, but with a 970 and battlefield 1 runs on high/ultra at 1080 with 50+ fps most of the time.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:52
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Crabtree posted:To be honest, we don't have much to talk about until we receive release/demo footage that isn't hidden behind press release asskissing. Which is bioware's fault because they made sure to be quiet about it until right before release. There were two hour long twitch streams the past couple of days. Plenty to talk about from them.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:54
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Going pure guns in ME1 is actually good because you can have your squad mates cast Overload and then you shoot everything. Playing ME1 for the combat is like reading Playboy for the ads.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:07
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precision posted:Going pure guns in ME1 is actually good because you can have your squad mates cast Overload and then you shoot everything. Playing ME1 for the combat is like reading Playboy for the ads. *implying you didn't like those Jockstrap ads!*
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Mar 12, 2017 20:14
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Transmetropolitan posted:If anyone is playing ME1 again, no joke, just cheat. Give yourself ridiculous credits, levels, powers, whatever, just go and enjoy the story. I can't enjoy ME1's story anymore once I realized that Sovereign was a loving idiot. The rest of it is fine, but god drat that ruined it for me.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:30
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I have very little recollection of ME1 gameplay except Immunity + Marksman dominated everything. I made an Infiltrator but I have no recollection of ever using sniper rifles.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:39
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Turbl posted:
This is what this guy's dad came out as in case anyone was dying to know  He must be so proud.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:39
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ME1 is kind of fun if you cheat yourself 10 million credits and buy all the spectre guns. And I kind of liked the hacking minigame on the PC version
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Mar 12, 2017 20:43
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Turbl posted:This is what this guy's dad came out as in case anyone was dying to know Dad is still a handsome gently caress... drat.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:53
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Ainsley McTree posted:And I kind of liked the hacking minigame on the PC version Yeah it was pretty inoffensive. Not like ME2 where the insta-solve mod is a must-have imo
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Mar 12, 2017 20:54
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Deakul posted:Dad is still a handsome gently caress... drat. It was the mother's poor genetics.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:56
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Deakul posted:Dad is still a handsome gently caress... drat. character creator looking extremely powerful there huh
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Mar 12, 2017 20:59
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Milky Moor posted:seriously andromeda is the fourth goddamn mass effect game and the squad is still kaidan was a very-sweaty human
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Mar 12, 2017 20:59
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For real, is that a real thing you can make in the Character Creator Because if so I might not have to wear a helmet
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Mar 12, 2017 20:59
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CottonWolf posted:It was the mother's poor genetics. Drell human miscegenation
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Mar 12, 2017 21:03
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RentACop posted:I can't see them loving up the multiplayer, but 60 bucks just for multi is harrumphing. I feel like five bucks to play the demo and a mirror's edge game I had no idea existed is a good move I never played the first one.. I suppose this would probably be as good an opportunity as any
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Mar 12, 2017 21:09
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exquisite tea posted:Just out of curiosity, how many of you playing early with EA access haven't already pre-ordered, and are waiting on the demo to form your opinions of the game? I'm paying for EA Access because I'm not sure my PC can run Andromeda and want to test it out before I buy the game. And if it does work, at least I can play 10 hours of the game. I'm not pre-ordering the game in any case. I'm one of the people who don't care about Witcher 3. I played Witcher 2, and didn't like the combat, the setting, and especially Geralt. I don't doubt that TW3 is a great RPG, but the combat is apparently still not the game's greatest strength, and since it still features Geralt I simply have no interest in playing it. But I'm not bothered by comparisons to Andromeda. It's cited as an inspiration by the Bioware people, so it's a fair comparison. I'm only puzzled that nobody mentions Obsidian's Tyranny as one of the games with the very best branching storylines. You can play through it in about 20 hours, but it's absolutely worth it to play through it four times, because there are 4 radically diverging story paths after the first act.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:21
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Thor-Stryker posted:Good news is Obsidian's parent company bought out White Wolf and recieved all the assets for Vampire: Bloodlines. If we're lucky, we'll get a sequel by Obsidian to one of the best 2004 western fps/RPGs. Paradox Interactive bought White Wolf. Paradox don't own Obsidian and their only involvement has been as the publisher for PoE. So far the new White Wolf is humping the corpse of the original and showing why having an edgelord who thinks he's Swedish Dracula as the face of your company is a bad idea. They are fixated on Bloodlines though, so that might happen if they sell the license to the right company.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:28
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Torrannor posted:I'm only puzzled that nobody mentions Obsidian's Tyranny as one of the games with the very best branching storylines. You can play through it in about 20 hours, but it's absolutely worth it to play through it four times, because there are 4 radically diverging story paths after the first act. Eh, I played Tyranny and I am thinking that Obsidian is relying a bit too much on their reputation as "great storytellers" and getting a tad comfortable with their thing because I felt the endings were very weak in execution in comparison to the set-up to them (and the great reactivity of the story overall). In hindsight, the gameplay was pretty much just serviceable and I really hope they don't get stuck to that mindset and try to do more than just "we really like D&D". Thinking about it, Obsidian had a lot of passes based on their past glories, but it seems they have finally found their stride with Pillars of Eternity being a well built game without a lot of the problems that plagued them in the past, so good for them.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:33
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Transmetropolitan posted:Eh, I played Tyranny and I am thinking that Obsidian is relying a bit too much on their reputation as "great storytellers" and getting a tad comfortable with their thing because I felt the endings were very weak in execution in comparison to the set-up to them (and the great reactivity of the story overall). In hindsight, the gameplay was pretty much just serviceable and I really hope they don't get stuck to that mindset and try to do more than just "we really like D&D". I think this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say Obsidian gets any passes for anything, let alone a lot of passes. Their games are scrutinized more critically by gamers than almost anyones
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