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unpacked robinhood posted:Where is this protest happening quote:what do the signs say quote:and what's the thing with the oranges ?
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asaf posted:Pictures from a protest of the Netherlands today by the AKP's Kocaeli* Youth Branch Ah the juice party shalom!
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Namarrgon posted:). Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 12, 2017 |
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Mar 12, 2017 17:31
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When poo poo was going bad with Israel and turkey, some conservative folk protested Israel by buying Coca-Cola and pouring it of the streets, because Coca-Cola is a trick by the Jews obviously. Yes, it's a pretty typical form of protest in Turkey.
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Mar 12, 2017 17:35
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Toplowtech posted:the name was originally unrelated to that of the orange fruit, but was later conflated with it for some obscure reason
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Toplowtech posted:FYI the old principality of Orange was technically the land around the (now) french town of Orange (it's in the south) and near the city of Avignon(then papal territory). Beyond the color association, the name was originally unrelated to that of the orange fruit, but was later conflated with it for some obscure reason i can't remember, linked to protestantism i think. Citrus crushing is nice, but it's overall pretty random and petty and pretty turkish. Wait are you seriously saying that random orange crushing is a general sign of protest (in Turkey)? Because that would be hilariously funny.
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Namarrgon posted:Wait are you seriously saying that random orange crushing is a general sign of protest (in Turkey)? Because that would be hilariously funny. see asaf posted:When poo poo was going bad with Israel and turkey, some conservative folk protested Israel by buying Coca-Cola and pouring it of the streets, because Coca-Cola is a trick by the Jews obviously. Yes, it's a pretty typical form of protest in Turkey. Like those fucker would fry potatoes in the street to protest France because it's not like they buy wine anyway and yet France do not really give that much of a poo poo about potatoes export.
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Mar 12, 2017 17:41
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I don't think the protestors think oranges are a major Dutch export.
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Mar 12, 2017 17:43
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The Dutch may be laughing now, but let's see their faces when the lucrative market of AKP supporters boycotts Heineken!
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AceOfFlames posted:BTW, FWIW that study is from 2015. Does anyone have a link to the complete race statistics page?
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Badger of Basra posted:I don't think the protestors think oranges are a major Dutch export.  asaf posted:The Dutch may be laughing now, but let's see their faces when the lucrative market of AKP supporters boycotts Heineken!
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Mar 12, 2017 17:48
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MeLKoR posted:Does anyone have a link to the complete race statistics page? If you search for "2015 euro barometer discrimination" you'll get to the full report, but I recall being unable to find countrywise racial breakdowns. The data is linked openly (need to register to download) and the methodology seemed reasonably thorough to me, for the sort of study it is and the limitations presented by cultural and legal issues (but the report doesn't mention these nearly enough tbh)
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OperaMouse posted:The Dutch word for the fruit is "sinaasappel", which originates from "Chinese apple".
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Mar 12, 2017 18:25
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huh presumably the same as the East Germans calling them Apfelsine.
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BabyFur Denny posted:The concept of cultures is inherently oppressive and needs to die. The only good culture is bacteria. Libluini posted:We're basically an entire nation of Bostonians. 8.5/10 username/post combo.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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blowfish posted:The only good culture is bacteria. That cheese won't make itself
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blowfish posted:The only good culture is bacteria. Indeed, so you too have heard of our Lord And Savior Yersinia pestis? The true bringer of progress, humility and power to the populace.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:41
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The EU should simply cancel the tariffs union with Turkey and let their economy collapse. Combine that with a robust solution to the threat of more illegal immigration and very soon Turkey will see who is boss. We should not support Erdogan in transforming that country into a Caliphate!
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Mar 12, 2017 19:43
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GaussianCopula posted:The EU should simply cancel the tariffs union with Turkey and let their economy collapse. Combine that with a robust solution to the threat of more illegal immigration and very soon Turkey will see who is boss. We should not support Erdogan in transforming that country into a Caliphate! Ah yes. Further impoverishing ordinary Turks is sure to lessen Erdogan's grip on power. Economic isolation sure brought down the regimes in Cuba and North Korea after all.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:49
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Honj Steak posted:That's a dilemma of multiculturalism we should be aware of. Sometimes lifting people out of their misery and raising their living standards can lead to the destruction of their culture. If you help Roma and Sinti acquire integration and stability that almost necessarily means banning their arranged marriages which will lead to an end of Gypsie culture in the mid- to long-term. Multiculturalism is about allowing individual freedom on cultural traits, and it's opposed to cultural traits that demand conformity. Cultures are inherently in constant flux, and the destruction of the Roma culture by people abandoning it is no great loss. Some traits of it will survive - the ones people choose to keep. It's no more a dilemma than the tolerant left not tolerating hate crime.
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Mar 12, 2017 19:57
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Ah yes. Further impoverishing ordinary Turks is sure to lessen Erdogan's grip on power. Economic isolation sure brought down the regimes in Cuba and North Korea after all. He built a large chunk of his/AKPs popularity on reforms that gave significant improvements in standard of living for large segments of the population. These reforms in turn relied on good economic conditions and booms/bubbles that are seemingly in a downward spiral atm. It would probably equal a great big cut in the votershare in a normal healthy democracy. However, with Turkey it will probably end up like Russia where state control will mostly be able to direct that anger and frustration to outside targets, hopefully long enough for the economy to recover or for a new worse normal to settle in the minds of the populace.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:08
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So after this Wilders is deffo gonna win right
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orange sky posted:So after this Wilders is deffo gonna win right Well he'll win in the sense of having enough votes to be even more obnoxious, but do you think he's going to win in terms of actually getting over 50% of seats?
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Mar 12, 2017 20:42
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Oh my loving God https://twitter.com/OnlineMagazin/status/840932247859531776 Well, I didn't know this, but it seems to be like 2 years old.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:52
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blowfish posted:Well he'll win in the sense of having enough votes to be even more obnoxious, but do you think he's going to win in terms of actually getting over 50% of seats? That's never happened for any party, so I doubt it will happen now. Also, the fact that the current government responded in this way might convince people that voting PVV is not necessary if the VVD is also willing to do this, so it's not a given that he'll go up in the polls now! That's probably the reason why the government responded so strongly in the first place.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:56
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Watch Erdogan start a loving war. Alright, I don't really expect that to actually happen, but I am certainly not going to file it under 'totally impossible and unthinkable' anymore.
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Mar 12, 2017 20:57
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Sinteres posted:That plus look at the way the AKP has been campaigning in Europe. I don't speak Turkish, a translation?
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Mar 12, 2017 21:06
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Office Pig posted:Watch Erdogan start a loving war. Erdogan wont do anything except petty poo poo and huffing and puffing for domestic brownie points. This conflict is inflated by Turkey and partially the Netherlands for domestic purposes, with the explicit understanding that it really won't affect either of the countries economically or militarily. It will have the same non effect as Swedens vocal stance against the Israeli government.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:11
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Kurtofan posted:I don't speak Turkish, a translation? Someone translated it as 'this fight is a fight between the crescent and the cross.' It's an appeal to European Turks to support Erdogan in the referendum, suggesting that opposition to his victory is rooted in a conspiracy by the West.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:12
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Sinteres posted:Someone translated it as 'this fight is a fight between the crescent and the cross.' It's an appeal to European Turks to support Erdogan in the referendum, suggesting that opposition to his victory is rooted in a conspiracy by the West. I was gonna say that you don't need a translation to know that it's just some bullshit that distracts from the real issue of this jackass just wanting more power for himself. But with that translation, that pretty much seals it.
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Mar 12, 2017 21:14
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Office Pig posted:Watch Erdogan start a loving war. He's a turk. Shouting and threatening to call the cops is a valid sales strategy.
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MeLKoR posted:Does anyone have a link to the complete race statistics page? http://www.equineteurope.org/IMG/pdf/ebs_437_en.pdf Spoiler alert: CZ (Czechia) is generally the most intolerant (racist, sexist, etc.) country; SE (Sweden) is generally the most tolerant; SI and SK (Slovenia and Slovakia) are where they like whitey the least. orange sky posted:Oh my loving God So that's where Draco Malfoy went off to after they've finished making these Harry Potter movies...
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Cat Mattress posted:http://www.equineteurope.org/IMG/pdf/ebs_437_en.pdf Did they actually go through with this?
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They call it "Czech Republic" in the document if that's what you're wondering about -- which, after all, is from 2015, while the country changed its official short name in 2016. "Czechia" is shorter to type, though.
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Sinteres posted:Someone translated it as 'this fight is a fight between the crescent and the cross.' It's an appeal to European Turks to support Erdogan in the referendum, suggesting that opposition to his victory is rooted in a conspiracy by the West. Seriously this. Here's a list of things that the media in Turkey don't attribute to a conspiracy. quote:When I started living here I learn the word "jew" real fast because I noticed that half of the newspapers in any given stand would have it on the headline, so I looked it up. Half of the media spend a good share of their time schreeching about different anti-Turkey conspiracies, mostly Jewish and European. And my neighborhood some months back woke up covered in stickers ranting about the zionist conspiracy. And that's without getting on the things the TV said after the attempted coup. You know the letters stamped in green in the middle of dollar bills? One newscast showed some dollars that had been confiscated on a raid with the letter "F" and they just went out and said it meant Fetullah (for Gülen) and that it was proof the US was financing the coup. And the government denied it at first, but I hardly need to tell anybody in this thread (or the mideast thread, don't try to hide it, you read it too) how Erdogan has escalated his words. All of that to say that, as stupid as Spanish (and I assume other countries') coverage of Turkey is (my mom thinks I live in a warzone) it really doesn't convey how crazy and conspiracy the media establishment is.
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GaussianCopula posted:The EU should simply cancel the tariffs union with Turkey and let their economy collapse. Combine that with a robust solution to the threat of more illegal immigration and very soon Turkey will see who is boss. We should not support Erdogan in transforming that country into a Caliphate! watch GC slowly morph from a soulless run-of-the-mill objectivist to a full blown 19th century monarchist  gott, kaiser, vaterland
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MeLKoR posted:Does anyone have a link to the complete race statistics page? http://www.equineteurope.org/IMG/pdf/ebs_437_en.pdf
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endlessmonotony posted:Multiculturalism is about allowing individual freedom on cultural traits, and it's opposed to cultural traits that demand conformity. Cultures are inherently in constant flux, and the destruction of the Roma culture by people abandoning it is no great loss. Some traits of it will survive - the ones people choose to keep. Gypsy culture is specifically adapted to resist assimilation into majority populations so don't expect them to abandon it willingly. So long as assholes exist who think they can solve these problems by driving their society to extinction the social and economic issues of the Roma will never be solved. People like unpacked robinhood are why gypsy educational attainment are so low. Ask them to choose between their culture and family or money and they'll pick the culture every time.
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Squalid posted:Gypsy culture is specifically adapted to resist assimilation into majority populations so don't expect them to abandon it willingly. So long as assholes exist who think they can solve these problems by driving their society to extinction the social and economic issues of the Roma will never be solved. A lot of their ability to resist assimilation relies on their ability to maintain isolation and control the available information in order to keep their youth from straying from the lifestyle. This is the one social problem where an app to fix it is actually plausible.
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