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ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Grand Fromage posted:

modernchina.txt

korea (china lite) is the exact same. I have female friends tell me that women routinely try to push their way past them when they are trying to come out of bathroom stalls.
plus Korea has the bonus of middle-aged men going out of their way to bump into you while pretending to look at the sky or something

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


People shoving me out of the way of shelves at the store because they want something and can't wait the five seconds for me to finish happened a fair amount in Korea but doesn't in China, for some reason.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I hear a lot of the world is more or less like that and its mostly just the anglosphere that cares about lining up/queueing and waiting your turn. I was planning a trip to germany back in 2008. Money fell thru last second but the german leader leadong the trip was like, don't worry if your german is bad, you'll get by fine with bad german and fluent english. Someone will be able to help you of you need it. But be ready to knock people around if you go to a deli or find yourself in any situation where you're expected to form a line in the US/UK

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

basic hitler posted:

I hear a lot of the world is more or less like that and its mostly just the anglosphere that cares about lining up/queueing and waiting your turn. I was planning a trip to germany back in 2008. Money fell thru last second but the german leader leadong the trip was like, don't worry if your german is bad, you'll get by fine with bad german and fluent english. Someone will be able to help you of you need it. But be ready to knock people around if you go to a deli or find yourself in any situation where you're expected to form a line in the US/UK

In Asia it implies a serious lack of thought. Either we queue up and everyone waits their turn, or we all shove our way to the front and I, being a giant white pile of fat and muscle, will knock your rear end flat on the ground auntie I don't care if you're trying to defend yourself with your umbrella!

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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make sure to wear some animal skins and carry a club too for maximum hairy white barbarian points

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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holy poo poo check this out

http://www.barrons.com/articles/why-chinese-growth-will-snap-back-to-10-1489210615

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
I had a big british umbrella when I lived in china with a steel shaft that was pointy on the end and a hefty bent-wood handle. It was good for parting the human seas and doubled as a hobo stick to take groceries home on a motorcycle taxi.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


image text goes here

Grand Fromage posted:

People shoving me out of the way of shelves at the store because they want something and can't wait the five seconds for me to finish happened a fair amount in Korea but doesn't in China, for some reason.

Lots of middle aged Korean women in Shinjuku do this.

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

you better listen to carl this time, he's sporting the moustache of understanding

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all
The Taiwanese see their ability to queue as one of the defining features between themselves and the mainlanders.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

World's smartest man: I'm so smart that I've figured out a way to convince anyone I'm a huge dumbass in a single sentence, here we go: Li Keqiang has stated that he needs to track only three indicators to have a good appreciation of the state of China’s economy.

It's only a matter of time until the Economist hires me on!

KillingPablo
Apr 5, 2003

WHOO! I am DEFINITELY not afraid of the fucking POLICE right now!
I originally came as to China as part of an American NGO that also places people in jobs in SE Asian countries (Indonesia, Vietnam, Burma, etc). Talking with the director of the organization at one point, he mentioned how when program fellows in SE Asia ended their stints they often reported being extremely happy, motivated, and interested in continuing to work in the country they were assigned to. Conversely, China fellows almost universally returned and were characterized as being pessimistic and jaded.

I'll echo what someone else said earlier; since coming here I too have come to love the simple joy of bulldozing through the people who block the entry/exit paths in the subway rather than standing on the sides of the doors to facilitate movement. I am, however, scared to death of the day I finally need to get a driver's license.

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

KillingPablo posted:

I originally came as to China as part of an American NGO that also places people in jobs in SE Asian countries (Indonesia, Vietnam, Burma, etc). Talking with the director of the organization at one point, he mentioned how when program fellows in SE Asia ended their stints they often reported being extremely happy, motivated, and interested in continuing to work in the country they were assigned to. Conversely, China fellows almost universally returned and were characterized as being pessimistic and jaded.

Aye

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Clapping Larry

KillingPablo posted:

I originally came as to China as part of an American NGO that also places people in jobs in SE Asian countries (Indonesia, Vietnam, Burma, etc). Talking with the director of the organization at one point, he mentioned how when program fellows in SE Asia ended their stints they often reported being extremely happy, motivated, and interested in continuing to work in the country they were assigned to. Conversely, China fellows almost universally returned and were characterized as being pessimistic and jaded.

I'll echo what someone else said earlier; since coming here I too have come to love the simple joy of bulldozing through the people who block the entry/exit paths in the subway rather than standing on the sides of the doors to facilitate movement. I am, however, scared to death of the day I finally need to get a driver's license.

If the videos posted in these threads are any indicator, just drive a big semi or dumptruck and you'll never be the one that gets injured!

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009
This morning whilst walking to class I was about to overtake an old man, he saw me coming and just walked right in front of me and trod on my foot, so I overtook him and cut back in front of him as close as I could causing him to drop his bag of oranges which went rolling all over the place.

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
Sidewalk rage.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Jimmy Little Balls posted:

This morning whilst walking to class I was about to overtake an old man, he saw me coming and just walked right in front of me and trod on my foot, so I overtook him and cut back in front of him as close as I could causing him to drop his bag of oranges which went rolling all over the place.

I can imagine this whole scene playing out in Bangkok except completely by accident on both accounts. The only part that wouldn't happen here is someone intentionally trying to walk faster than someone else.

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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Uhhh

https://qz.com/927277/psychologist-...f-giant-babies/

Chinese Psychologist posted:

According to Wu, infants younger than six months live in symbiosis with their mothers. They can’t tell themselves apart from the outside world. They want everything to follow their own rules. And they don’t recognize anything between the two extremes of good and bad. Wu says these three characteristics summarize the majority of Chinese people.

For example, in an extended family in China, Wu writes, “Your business is my business, mine is also yours. I take too much responsibility for you, and you take too much for me. Otherwise you are a jerk, and I’ll feel guilty.” He notes in a recent interview (link in Chinese) that the phenomenon is reflected in a new hit Chinese dating show, where parents pick partners for their kids.

From a social perspective, Wu notes, Chinese people place a strong emphasis on collectivism because they can’t live on their own, both spiritually and materially speaking. They rely on guanxi, or personal connections, to get things done. Meanwhile, they prefer to let powerful figures such as their parents or the government make decisions for them.

Wu also challenges the Chinese government. He says mothers dominate Chinese families, while fathers are often missing in the role of a parent—just like Chinese rulers are absent in the role of government.

“Good fathers rarely exist, and more often they are bastards having desires,” he writes.

lonter
Oct 12, 2012

basic hitler posted:

I hear a lot of the world is more or less like that and its mostly just the anglosphere that cares about lining up/queueing and waiting your turn. I was planning a trip to germany back in 2008. Money fell thru last second but the german leader leadong the trip was like, don't worry if your german is bad, you'll get by fine with bad german and fluent english. Someone will be able to help you of you need it. But be ready to knock people around if you go to a deli or find yourself in any situation where you're expected to form a line in the US/UK

What?? Germans love queues.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

lonter posted:

What?? Germans love queues.

They're more inclined towards pick a number queues.

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


lonter posted:

What?? Germans love queues.

I was told differently. By an actual native German. I just took her word. We were headed to somewhere outside münchen if it matters

Riot Bimbo fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Mar 13, 2017

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
Germans just like lining other people up.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

basic hitler posted:

I was told differently. By an actual native German. I just took her word. We were headed to somewhere outside münchen if it matters

Absolute nonsense. Happens when people have no conception of the outside world.

"You see, everything is such a mess here, no order. I feel really insecure around here at night. Oh, the crime!"

That's what people actually will tell you here in central europe. That's usually corrected after the first few visits to Eastern Europe or places in the third world. Or France.

Power Khan fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Mar 13, 2017

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

queues are for manchu

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
\
:backtowork:

hakimashou posted:

Germans just like lining other people up.

Saint Rude
Aug 21, 2009

hakimashou posted:

Germans just like lining other people up.

Lol

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

hakimashou posted:

Germans just like lining other people up.

drat

Son of Rodney
Feb 22, 2006

ohmygodohmygodohmygod

In germany we mostly do mental queues in bars or such, we remember who was first and then gez served accordingly. Other than that we form queues, do no idea what that drat bavarian garbage person was talking about.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

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Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax
VACATION:
This is my second day of playing Grand Theft Auto 5 at maximum settings on my new notebook. I noticed I put 14 hours into it already. That's probably the total number of hours I played any video games combined in all of 2016. I am not a gamer at this point (never really was), but hot dang, I feel like I am back in southern California and am really enjoying having a break from China. Seriously, it's like $60 vacation and I am really enjoying how un-China it is. I never understood the whole "video games are escapism" thing until right now.

RAYSISTS:
I cooked some pumpkin soup in the Amer-Italian style my mom likes to make it. It's missing the buttermilk, but the flavor is still there. I have made this numerous times for my Chinese friends and they have all loved it. I told my boss I had lot extra and she told me to bring some for her because the visiting grandparents (husband's parents) would probably like how healthy it is. These are the same grandparents that religiously watch the 8pm anti-foreign nightly news, and got my boss's daughter on an anti-Japan brigade that even my boss thinks is worrying. They are very against anything non-Chinese, and whole-heartedly support Xi and the entire narrative of China being the center of the world and everywhere else full of cavemen with no culture. The first time I met them, the grandma asked if I had eaten dinner, and was shocked that I had not cooked pizza. That's the only foreign food she knew. She thought we ate it at every meal.

Anyway, I went over to her house get my soup container and saw the soup in the communal bowl with the ladle. It was the same amount I had given her. I asked her if they didn't want it, and she said when she told them I had cooked it they refused to eat it. I sat there in front of them and ate the whole thing (like a liter of soup) and then left.

LOL at being so mentally impaired that you refuse to eat food made by someone from a different place and with a different skin color.

KillingPablo posted:

I'll echo what someone else said earlier; since coming here I too have come to love the simple joy of bulldozing through the people who block the entry/exit paths in the subway rather than standing on the sides of the doors to facilitate movement.
I enjoy it too, and usually lean into whoever is coming my way, almost sometimes instinctively doing it even though I am not anywhere near a door/gate/entry-way. I just can't get over the nonsensical rush they all do. Examples are tonight and last night I was bum-rushed exiting the elevator on my floor (both times which was going up). The idiots didn't even look if there were other people in the elevator, or which direction it was going. They just see the doors open and immediately jump in and then act surprised they are now going the wrong direction, and don't want to lose face and admit their mistake and step off, so they just ride it to wherever it is going. Idiots.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Haier posted:

VACATION:
This is my second day of playing Grand Theft Auto 5 at maximum settings on my new notebook. I noticed I put 14 hours into it already. That's probably the total number of hours I played any video games combined in all of 2016. I am not a gamer at this point (never really was), but hot dang, I feel like I am back in southern California and am really enjoying having a break from China. Seriously, it's like $60 vacation and I am really enjoying how un-China it is. I never understood the whole "video games are escapism" thing until right now.


well goodbye plunging stories. dammit.

Jimmy Little Balls
Aug 23, 2009

Haier posted:

I enjoy it too, and usually lean into whoever is coming my way, almost sometimes instinctively doing it even though I am not anywhere near a door/gate/entry-way. I just can't get over the nonsensical rush they all do. Examples are tonight and last night I was bum-rushed exiting the elevator on my floor (both times which was going up). The idiots didn't even look if there were other people in the elevator, or which direction it was going. They just see the doors open and immediately jump in and then act surprised they are now going the wrong direction, and don't want to lose face and admit their mistake and step off, so they just ride it to wherever it is going. Idiots.

A while back I accidentally pressed the button for the basement when I got in the lift and you can't cancel it. So I got off on the ground floor, some woman shoved past me into the lift and when she saw it was still going down started properly screaming, the doors hadn't even closed so she could quite easily have just got back out. Another lift thing is people here loving love to stand right in front of the buttons when they get in so no one else can get to them.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Jeoh posted:

queues are for manchu

this joke should not go unloved

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
I rented a property for a few days as a getaway and I'm a decent cook. I made american style breakfast, scrambled eggs, bacon, hashbrowns etc. Simple stuff. Once the food was cooking I woke up my (chinese) friends and they looked at it and were like... it's ok we'll make our own breakfast.

they fried up some 火腿 and made their own scrambled eggs, and some noodles.

Is that just a thing? Chinese people don't eat food made by whitey? very weird stuff

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Another problem I have cooking with chinese friends.

Western cooking often requires specific textures to make certain dishes and requires certain techniques besides [cut into small pieces and fry].

If you ask someone to julienne the carrot or shred the chicken you're just going to get back the food cut into small pieces. Even if you show them how to do it you just get back [cut into small pieces] and they're going to tell you that their way was much easier to do, as if that helped you.

It makes me want to throw the food away and order delivery when this happens, the whole ingredient is consumed in a way useless to the presentation and texture of the food.

Maybe it's weird for one dude to make all the dishes idk but the women will insist to help me even when I know this will happen and then it always happens and it's like You Didn't Really Help Me At All And Now You're Going To Say Western Food Just Isn't As Advanced As Chinese

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Modest Mao posted:

Another problem I have cooking with chinese friends.

Western cooking often requires specific textures to make certain dishes and requires certain techniques besides [cut into small pieces and fry].

If you ask someone to julienne the carrot or shred the chicken you're just going to get back the food cut into small pieces. Even if you show them how to do it you just get back [cut into small pieces] and they're going to tell you that their way was much easier to do, as if that helped you.

It makes me want to throw the food away and order delivery when this happens, the whole ingredient is consumed in a way useless to the presentation and texture of the food.

Maybe it's weird for one dude to make all the dishes idk but the women will insist to help me even when I know this will happen and then it always happens and it's like You Didn't Really Help Me At All And Now You're Going To Say Western Food Just Isn't As Advanced As Chinese

When all you have is a cleaver, everything starts to look like a chunk of bone-in pork to be cubed.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

there's actually a ton of different ways to cut meat and veggies in chinese cooking?

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
yeah, I just probably sucked at explaining lol

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
https://twitter.com/DonnieDoesWorld/status/841326738130972672

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webmeister
Jan 31, 2007

The answer is, mate, because I want to do you slowly. There has to be a bit of sport in this for all of us. In the psychological battle stakes, we are stripped down and ready to go. I want to see those ashen-faced performances; I want more of them. I want to be encouraged. I want to see you squirm.
That's some sick beat-boxing skills

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