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Comstar posted:Shouldn't it be worthwhile to detach some of those Battleships to go after the allied convoys too? Not with a modern undamaged American BB nearby. 9x16" guns and carriers really don't mix. But detaching, say 4 DDs, as a hunter-killer SAG might pay off nicely. And sortieing everything that floats in Truk and Rabaul.
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Props to that one Warhawk pilot that saw all those enemy planes and helpless ships and said "I gotta get me some of that".
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# ? Mar 9, 2017 22:18 |
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Thats a big bunch of ships with no escorts. I seem to have picked my lucky ship poorly.
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 00:12 |
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I picked the Skipjack which has made exactly zero appearances. What the gently caress Spruance
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 03:57 |
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On the bright side that means it can't be sunk if it never appears. My own lucky ship, Shigure, has yet to appear as well. ...In fact, glancing at the ship spotted list, she's one of only two - out of ten - Shiratsuyu-class destroyers (the other being class leader Shiratsuyu) that hasn't appeared. edit: Holy poo poo, I just noticed there are 3 Minekaze-class destroyers in the Kidou Butai's escort screen. Those ships were obsolete by the beginning of the war, let alone now - they should be on permanent convoy and patrol duty, not escorting a main battle fleet. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Mar 10, 2017 |
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My ship got sunk. And it was awesome. And then I claimed it's namesake replacement because it's the quick and the dead around here.
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 05:27 |
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... Wow, well done Grey. That's a lot of dead allied shipping. So this is what not having to worry about a massed Allied air responsive for a bit is. Ability to raid outside of thier land based air power with impunity. So, since the big battle with the mauled Allied CV's, you have further I think sunk 2-3 CVE's, 1-2 BB's, and a few cruisers and destroyers - their navies are still hurting. So how is your own pilot training and research/production going?
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 06:02 |
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PittTheElder posted:Is there any reason why the carriers are doing all the work, and there doesn't seem to be any land-based air from Espiritu Santo contributing? Too busy getting blown up by Liberators? Aircraft not set to attack ships, won't.
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 06:39 |
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The entire South Pacific is a roiling cauldron of shark mouths.
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# ? Mar 10, 2017 06:52 |
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Lets start the day by sinking a nice big oiler. Liberator kill! All other ships have vanished, so we raid Naomea. Tarawa may need some reinforcements. Another wave of troops hit the enemy at Hankow. Aww, no mountain of ship hit reports – at least the turn was quicker to process! We can still gain points though!
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 06:48 |
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Do the multiple divisions you've sent to the bottom count toward your land points?
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 08:13 |
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A White Guy posted:Do the multiple divisions you've sent to the bottom count toward your land points? Well, they are army losses, so yes.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 08:18 |
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The plan for a CAP here is just not working. Clunk! This was a lot of work for a hobby. Another raid on Noumae. Things are going back to tick over mode. Lets see if any more enemy ships sunk today. I've come to expect more.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 18:19 |
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Never thought Thomas Jefferson would be an honorary member of the APA Squad...
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 18:39 |
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Ouch, 34-4 on the planes and pilots today. That's about a 30 point loss. Still 15,303 points ahead though. It'd take that kind of losses daily for 17 months to catch up, everything else being equal. How does pilot experience work? RA Rx fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Mar 11, 2017 |
# ? Mar 11, 2017 18:41 |
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That APA would have been nice.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 18:45 |
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i81icu812 posted:I think Wichita is reported sunk, so Raleigh it is 2/2 on lucky ship kills Hmm, now what to pick...
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 19:11 |
Grey Hunter posted:This was a lot of work for a hobby. Story of your life. 11 March 1943 British escort destroyer Harvester, badly damaged while ramming U-444 in the mid-Atlantic, then torpedoed by U-432, which in turn was rammed and sunk by French corvette Aconit.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 20:17 |
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i81icu812 posted:
Go big on whatever CV is coming next.
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# ? Mar 11, 2017 22:34 |
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:11 March 1943 set to the theme of yakety sax
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 00:03 |
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OpenlyEvilJello posted:Story of your life. History is incredibly great.
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 01:25 |
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If only the Aconit had hit a mine dropped by U-444, we could have come full circle.
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Ikasuhito posted:If only the Aconit had hit a mine dropped by U-444, we could have come full circle. Excuse me, they're French, not Italian.
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 05:28 |
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Another battleship is spotted. This is followed by at least ten task force unloading messages. Each of the three phases. We get three tankers and a destroyer. Then we hurt the R&D department. Burning tankers are pretty much kills. These are pretty much dead as well. Someone is getting fired after this week. The bombs keep falling. Even if half of these don't sink, the repair yards will be packed for months! They landed a LOT of troops today – at least 4 more marine regiments plus support. Our men have no chance of holding them back. Yeah, I need to get these out of here. A pretty good showing here! The loss of Tarawa is a blow, but there is not much I could have done – except have the carriers on station. This is an understatement.
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 21:41 |
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Grey Hunter posted:The loss of Tarawa is a blow, but there is not much I could have done – except have the carriers on station. How many base points is Tarawa worth vs 5 tankers and change? Also, think how badly this exchange would have went if the Kido Butai didn't have essentially free range right now.
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 21:49 |
"Heavy fires" probably describes the city of Hankow as well as the City of Hankow. 12 March 1943 British destroyer Lightning, torpedoed near Bizerte by German E-boat.
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# ? Mar 12, 2017 22:20 |
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Okay, give me the La Brea as lucky ship number 3. I've got a feeling about this one!
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 00:06 |
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i81icu812 posted:Okay, give me the La Brea as lucky ship number 3. Is it a sinking feeling?
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 00:23 |
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So, the US respawn got turned off in a recent update, right? Do we know what version Grey is on or does it keep updating?
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:17 |
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Lord Koth posted:edit: Holy poo poo, I just noticed there are 3 Minekaze-class destroyers in the Kidou Butai's escort screen. Those ships were obsolete by the beginning of the war, let alone now - they should be on permanent convoy and patrol duty, not escorting a main battle fleet.
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Lord Koth posted:edit: Holy poo poo, I just noticed there are 3 Minekaze-class destroyers in the Kidou Butai's escort screen. Those ships were obsolete by the beginning of the war, let alone now - they should be on permanent convoy and patrol duty, not escorting a main battle fleet. So here's a question: would someone know that the Minekaze-class destroyers aren't fit for main battle fleet duty just by looking at their stats in the game? Maybe comparing them to another destroyer?
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 02:50 |
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They're a good ten knots slower than you want them to be.
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:26 |
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So,, presuming that Grey does switch up the escort screen for the Carriers, how long before realistically he can launch a counterattack to retake Taraway or otherwise put it under seige? And nice showing. That's a lot of Allied Tankers..
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 03:29 |
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Cantorsdust posted:How many base points is Tarawa worth vs 5 tankers and change? Value to Japan - 125 (Base 25) Value to Allies - 10 (Base 02) i81icu812 posted:Okay, give me the La Brea as lucky ship number 3. The Raleigh took two bombs, and its unlikely that it would've sunk. That being said, I'll put up the new lucky ship, but if it turns out Raleigh is still alive I'll have to penalize excessive claiming! gradenko_2000 posted:So here's a question: would someone know that the Minekaze-class destroyers aren't fit for main battle fleet duty just by looking at their stats in the game? Maybe comparing them to another destroyer? The Minekaze is actually rated at a top speed of 35 (Presumably knots). This top speed is actually the second highest of all Japanese Destroyer classes, tied with the Kamikaze-class destroyers; the top speed is held by the Shimakaze-class Destroyers at 38 knots. The main problem with the Minekaze destroyers is that they have low endurance (meaning they need to refuel more often), as well as being on the lower end of durability, but having a higher maneuverability. Their speed is equal to whatever the aircraft carriers are, and they cruise at the same speed.
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 05:36 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Value to Japan - 125 (Base 25) Are you doubting the veracity of Japanese reporting?!?
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 06:09 |
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I don't have the game, but I'd guess their offensive ratings are also decently lower than later destroyers, given their terrible guns and the slight issue that they don't - and can't - carry Long Lances. They have 53 cm torpedo tubes, while the Long Lance was a 61 cm torpedo. They are admittedly rather fast, as you mentioned, but so long as you're fast enough to keep up with the CVs (insert incoherent mumbling at Grey previously having Katori/Kashima escorting the Kido Butai here ), your speed as a fleet escort isn't terribly important beyond that - you're not really supposed to be wandering away from them to go hunting, after all.
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Not having Long Lances just means its smarter to have them on carrier escort duty since your carriers shouldn't be fighting anyone anyways.i81icu812 posted:Are you doubting the veracity of Japanese reporting?!? Without a game-changing option that Grey has not turned off? Yes.
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 06:15 |
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So how many tonnes of shipping has gone down in the past week? And I would expect a few confirmations to come trickling through over the next month.
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 08:15 |
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whitewhale posted:So how many tonnes of shipping has gone down in the past week? And I would expect a few confirmations to come trickling through over the next month. 61306 tons total for allied ships. 51550 of those tons are merchant shipping (Cargo Ships)
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# ? Mar 13, 2017 08:27 |
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Not having Long Lances just means its smarter to have them on carrier escort duty since your carriers shouldn't be fighting anyone anyways. Really the big problem is the Minekaze have worthless AA. All Japanese AA is lovely but at least the Akitsuki class can throw up some shots and disrupt bombing runs. One of the biggest reasons late war carrier battles favor the allies is the amazing amount of AA they get between destroyers and CLAAs, not to mention on the carriers themselves. Even if a strike gets through CAP naval AA just ends up shredding the fragmented groups as they come in.
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