Dooguk posted:

"I think you have to approach SC as you would a person you really want to be more intimate with, but due to certain circumstances, whatever they may be, know deep down will never ever come to fruition. If you learn to accept this very real reality, anything you get from that person will easily be viewed upon with joy, even if its nothing more than a brief hi/goodbye. In short, temper your expectations affordably and you'll never be disappointed."

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7573155/#Comment_7573155

Star Citizen: It's out of your league.

TheAgent posted:

just a friendly reminder that's CIG is adding hand to hand combat, including ways to block, kick, strike and throw

I'm sure it'll replace MvC at EVO sometime soon

Warhawk109 posted:

Hi everyone! I'm the whale that said he was getting the hell out in the let's talk 3.0 thread. I'm in the process of getting my refund now. Can't wait to be on the outside watching this house of cards fall apart!

Thoatse posted:

thread's menacing display when meanies show up to give it a wedgie

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

If SC becomes an MMO where I can travel around punching random people in the dick then I am 100% buying in.

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

If SC becomes an MMO where I can travel around punching random people in the dick then I am 100% buying in.

evilweasel posted:

they shoulda picked new york, which is roughly "gently caress whatever you think you agreed to, we are enforcing the exact words of this contract including the clause that said one side was allowed to defraud you into signing this"

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Room system with atmosphere, pressure, oxygen, etc. is being worked on and will be able to manage the atmosphere in each room. so for exampel when a door is opened it will "suck" out the air from the room which will suck out the oxygen in the next room etc etc

AP posted:

Nope, a lot of people told you Citizens were entitled to refunds as CIG weren't keeping to their part of the contract/agreement, release dates etc.

You argued for pages how the CIG terms of service was cast iron and people couldn't get refunds, then people tested CIG on refunds by pushing it to the stage when a court might actually get to rule on it and suddenly CIG is refunding everyone who asks.

Don't let me stop you though if you are going to fight this legal battle again, last time was hilarious, love your work, big fan.

Beet Wagon posted:

lol according to BoredGamer the Idris is finished. Can't wait for them to try and load one into the PU

Nicholas posted:

I don't think there will ever be legal action. The casuals will simply move on from a failed kickstarter. The hardcore whales who go down with the ship will claim that they got their moneys worth, funded a dream, let CIG produce tech that could be licensed out in the future (lol), or some how saved the PC industry from certain death.

D_Smart posted:

You guys think you're pissed now? Well then, better get ready for my upcoming blog because it's got some things that nobody saw coming, and which I can 100% guarantee will lead to legal action that will subsequently *force CIG to produce the promised financial accounting for the project - something that most of you are too scared to see happen.

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, for those with about 100 bux in the game. Big whales will most likely take legal action. Heck, any ambulance chasing attorney will be able to get it classified as a class action without much effort. Yeah, I've done the research.

Warhawk109 posted:

Hi everyone! I'm the whale that said he was getting the hell out in the let's talk 3.0 thread. I'm in the process of getting my refund now. Can't wait to be on the outside watching this house of cards fall apart!

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

Ol Cactus Dick posted:

If SC becomes an MMO where I can travel around punching random people in the dick then I am 100% buying in.

TrustmeImLegit posted:

How guaranteed do you think this is? Please use percentages

Hav posted:

I take it the guy on the right is the amateur? He has all the energy, while the middle guy has technique.

Snazzy Frocks posted:

how much longer until its been 2 weeks?

BeigeJacket posted:

Can someone explain to me, in very simple idiot terms, what exactly causes all the clipping, walking thru walls, etc in the clips you guys post?

TrustmeImLegit posted:

Yesterday I had a nice talk with one of my fellows in my org. We talked about CR's promises, especially regarding subsumption.

One of CR's core promises is: "the player can do whatever a NPC can do". It also works the other way around: "the NPC can do whatever a player can do". For example, NPC ships are controlled by NPCs which are doing their jobs as much as they would do on a player controlled ships. And players can do the very same jobs. Also, NPCs can take missions as well as players can, which means, any job appearing on the job board IS done by someone, be it a PC or a NPC.

If CIG is able to pull that stunt, that's already a rather impressive feat.

Also CR promised us a "living" universe. NPCs do have lives as much as PCs have. They have a daily routine, they have a place where they sleep, they have their own hangars, their own ships etc. In a way NPCs and PCs are nearly indistinguishable from a certain point of view. Also there's that promise NPCs keep track of their interactions with other players, resulting in a dynamic relationship. They might become loyal friends - or have their own agenda, playing a foul game with certain players. And since the promise is still valid, NPCs may also have relationships with other NPCs and keeping track - which simply adds even more layers of complexity.

If CIG is able to do that, they nearly almost created a simulation of a small society.

And now substract any PCs from the game. Do it.

You may suddenly realize the game doesn't really need PCs to create a living universe. If done right, NPCs keep each other occupied with jobs, ever increasing relationships (or falling ones). They might even double cross each other. The command staff of the UEEN may decide to bring war to the Vanduul or vice versa. The economy is supporting that war - and the war may be lost if the economy fails doing so. Also the Xi'An may take a move towards UEE space, the old cold war turns in a hot one. Elections may happen, entire systems may suffer a total breakdown thanks to pirate raids against convoys and the UEEN may send fleets dealing with those pirates.

Now think about that. Basically, that's what CR promised in a nutshell. An living universe that's basically an independent simulation of a (small scale) society.

Snazzy Frocks posted:

how much longer until its been 2 weeks?

Snazzy Frocks posted:

how much longer until its been 2 weeks?

Warhawk109 posted:

The credit card debt was basically from me paying for school. It's a trade school for my 4th year electrical apprenticeship. After 3 months of classes, take a couple of exams, and I'm done my apprenticeship, and get my red seal. Feels good man.

TheAgent posted:

just a friendly reminder that's CIG is adding hand to hand combat, including ways to block, kick, strike and throw

I'm sure it'll replace MvC at EVO sometime soon

TrustmeImLegit posted:

How guaranteed do you think this is? Please use percentages

StarbloodKiss posted:

Since Amazon's lumberyard engine is being used and tied to Star Citizen, would Amazon (have they already?) put money into Star Citizen so that their engine isn't tied to a failure? Or is this completely trivial since they're only licensing it out?

ZenMaster posted:

CAN WE HAVE A VOLUNTEER FROM THE AUDIENCE?

TrustmeImLegit posted:

Couple things to consider:
If the game is ever going to release, eventually it will be released, it can't be delayed forever. If you think it will be delayed forever, you should probably refund / leave this subreddit, you don't really belong here. If you are just bummed about it being delayed here or there, have faith - it can't be delayed forever, remember! And if you think it can... see earlier in this paragraph. Its going to release eventually!

The closer to release we get, the more accurate Chris / CIG will be with release information, its impossible not to be more accurate. Think about it: if release is 2 years away (in reality), Chris could think "6-8 months!" and be way off. But if release is 2 months away, Chris could think "1 week!" and be only off by a month and 3/4. By percentage, its almost the same difference, but by actual time its minimal and not likely to upset most of you. The point is, as the time till release of any given thing gets closer, he can't help but become more "accurate", no matter how off he usually is.

The longer we go, the more experience Chris / CIG has with accuracy of their release information. They continue to be wrong, sure, but its NOT easy to set release times when software development is happening, not even with ALL the inside information they have, to know when something will be finished. As time goes on they are likely to get more accurate.
There are other factors, some of which counter these somewhat (such as anxiety over the release of the game or something like that). I'm just trying to stay positive here, and while its not too difficult for me I think a lot of people do struggle with it and hopefully this comment helps a little.

StarbloodKiss posted:

Since Amazon's lumberyard engine is being used and tied to Star Citizen, would Amazon (have they already?) put money into Star Citizen so that their engine isn't tied to a failure? Or is this completely trivial since they're only licensing it out?

I don't know, if I was a well-known company and was trying to open up a new area of business, I know I wouldn't want to be indirectly attributed to something that was a failure. At the same time, Amazon has nothing to do with Star Citizen so being able to put distance shouldn't be hard, but Amazon seems to be trying to get some good PR regarding its relationship with CIG.

TrustmeImLegit posted:

(Person who has never played a Paradox game here)

D_Smart posted:

Yeah, for those with about 100 bux in the game. Big whales will most likely take legal action. Heck, any ambulance chasing attorney will be able to get it classified as a class action without much effort. Yeah, I've done the research.

ManofManyAliases posted:

Doesn't matter, since that was modified. I doubt anyone still has a claim to those original terms anyway and if so, have likely already been offered a refund.