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oliwan posted:lol, i hope you die before you can reach the polling station and vote for the PVDA, which is the single worst party in the netherlands.
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Mar 14, 2017 12:30
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Sai posted:check the pvdd voting record and i hope your harakiri is quick and painless namaste What the gently caress are you talking about?
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Mar 14, 2017 12:37
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oliwan posted:there is only one real leftist option in the Netherlands, and that is Partij voor de Dieren. They are literally the only party that are openly anti-capitalist, and openly criticize economic growth as the ultimate factor for happiness. they are also the only party to openly support universal basic income.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:41
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Entropist posted:yes, but they gotta gotta sort out the chemtrail issue and stop vaccinations before they do that tho! At least they dont surrender to capitalism like the SP does. 
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Mar 14, 2017 14:21
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look at all these infighting leftists tomorrow you will all rally behind our lord and savior Klaver anyway
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Mar 14, 2017 14:52
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oliwan posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? End of pleasure hunting in Groningen Limburg will warn pet owners about fireworks Puppyfraud with vaccination stopped The Hague starts building nature inclusive Amsterdam halts cutting down 2500 trees Medical privacy put to higher standards Groningen makes moves to gas-free energy No more balloons in The Hague and Utrecht Frisia starts sterilizing wild cats Bull fight cancelled Arnhem celebration now fur-free Hunt for deer cancelled Flevoland cancels thinning of geese population Amsterdam Apeldoorn and The Hague want more attention for animals after domestic violence No Fireworks at Utrecht Glowing Lights Festival Coalition wants animal-friendly control of geese at Schiphol Gelderland to become more sustainable No exceptions in financial bonuses for British banks Citizens no longer have to personally prove gas winning damages Rotterdam starts seperating trash and goes vegetarian for animal day Utrecht accepts new laws against factory chickens South Holland starts project for more flowers and herbs in grass Europe wants end of Japanese whale hunting Temporary nature gets more space in Brabant The Hague and Utrecht move to ecological flower bulbs Monkeys used for medical tests freed New fund for biological food Netherlands outlaws import of animal trophies Amsterdam, The Hague and Utrecht make no paper commercial copy standard Netherlands says no to association agreement with Ukraine Limburg starts working on sustainable energy New evaluation of energy accord coming EU against medicine won from horse blood 4.000 m2 of forest saved Europe halts approval for new pesticides Congress will call ecological agriculture 'climatesmart' Congress wants to keep calfs with their mom cows for longer Point out the ones that can be named left in any way (I already did, it's the one I made bold)
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Mar 14, 2017 14:53
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animals are good and cool but not that good and cool, imo also the whole weird christian sect thing
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Mar 14, 2017 14:57
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Messyass posted:tomorrow you will all rally behind our lord and savior Klaver anyway I'm actually tempted due to the polls, if there is some chance of GL becoming the biggest party, even though I know Klaver would be happy to bomb Ankara and start fracking in the Wadden Sea if it means they get their name on a list of 'constructive opposition members', let alone in government...
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Mar 14, 2017 14:59
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Sai posted:animals are good and cool but not that good and cool, imo You sound like a dumb bitch computer toucher so I'm not going to debate you sorry friend
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Mar 14, 2017 15:18
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oliwan posted:You sound like a dumb bitch computer toucher so I'm not going to debate you sorry friend name one anti-capitalist proposal the pvdd has actually introduced in congress between working fulltime on making sure the condoms for foxes in the betuwe are degradable or whatever
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Mar 14, 2017 15:19
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Entropist posted:I'm actually tempted due to the polls, if there is some chance of GL becoming the biggest party, even though I know Klaver would be happy to bomb Ankara and start fracking in the Wadden Sea if it means they get their name on a list of 'constructive opposition members', let alone in government... This is also why I might switch from SP to GL. I don't like how liberal they tend to be but they are the most left-wing party with an actual chance of ending up in government, which is worth something.
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Mar 14, 2017 16:49
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Just got word from oliwan's family that he has killed himself, very sad. You can honor his memory by voting for SP or GL, or hell even PvdA. Parties that will actually do something instead of jerking themselves off over the life quality of some stupid loving rodent in some Amsterdam canal. RIP in Peace.
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Mar 14, 2017 17:07
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Sai posted:Just got word from oliwan's family that he has killed himself, very sad. You can honor his memory by voting for SP or GL, or hell even PvdA. Parties that will actually do something instead of jerking themselves off over the life quality of some stupid loving rodent in some Amsterdam canal. RIP in Peace. Rip. So much for the tolerant left. Nee maar echt. Lol PvdD
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Mar 14, 2017 18:09
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so when do we find out election results?
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Mar 14, 2017 18:15
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Baloogan posted:so when do we find out election results? I'm getting the hot take in minute, standby.
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Mar 14, 2017 18:27
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Baloogan posted:so when do we find out election results? Its probably going to come in tomorrow evening EU time. So probably from about 1500 east coast time.
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Mar 14, 2017 18:30
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Sai posted:
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Mar 14, 2017 18:33
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9-Volt Assault posted:More left results than pvda, gl and sp combined. A good party. i like your avatar
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Mar 14, 2017 18:37
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Thatim posted:Its probably going to come in tomorrow evening EU time. So probably from about 1500 east coast time. There will be exit polls tomorrow night but we won't find out significant results until very late in the evening, will we? So the following morning is a better bet.
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Mar 14, 2017 18:41
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If PVDD are full on anti capitalist have they made it clear what they want to replace it with? At least the SP has a theoretical framework and we know what they would replace it with. What does the PVDD suggest we replace capitalism with? Or do we tear it down first and then see how we organise our economy?
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Mar 14, 2017 19:13
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No People, no capitalism.
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Mar 14, 2017 19:35
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AlexanderCA posted:No People, no capitalism. #PvdG
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Mar 14, 2017 19:37
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I'm just happy we don't have any PvdA voters in the Dutch thread
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Mar 14, 2017 19:40
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aren't d66 and gl basically the same as the pvda when it comes down to it?
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Mar 14, 2017 19:43
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Imagine voting for Jesse klaver after seeing this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCvYS02at18
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Mar 14, 2017 19:46
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"de eerst wat echt inspiratie voor me is, is imagine van john lennon" help my eyes are stuck in a permanent roll
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Mar 14, 2017 19:52
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I might vote pvda because, while I prefer D66's more libertine attitude, I really dislike vvd's authoritarian "act normal" spiel. Economically I like a stronger welfare state in principle as well. But, It doesn't really affect my STEMlord situation personally. So, welp, I'll probably just end up with D66 anyways because gently caress you, got mine.
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Mar 14, 2017 19:53
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AlexanderCA posted:I might vote pvda because, while I prefer D66's more libertine attitude, I really dislike vvd's authoritarian "act normal" spiel. Economically I like a stronger welfare state in principle as well. But, It doesn't really affect my STEMlord situation personally. It's ok, all liberals are equal under the guillotine.
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Mar 14, 2017 19:57
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Something I want to know is why the Netherlands has so many parties. I heard that no party has ever gained a full majority of votes/seats in the history of Dutch elections, is that true?
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Mar 14, 2017 20:00
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oliwan posted:Imagine voting for Jesse klaver after seeing this:
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Mar 14, 2017 20:02
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Corek posted:I heard that no party has ever gained a full majority of votes/seats in the history of Dutch elections, is that true? That's not really that unusual in countries that aren't using first past the post.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:02
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R. Mute posted:mafak zeg. someone needs to bully this man
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Mar 14, 2017 20:07
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I think CDA was biggest in the 80s with 35%.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:14
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Corek posted:Something I want to know is why the Netherlands has so many parties. I heard that no party has ever gained a full majority of votes/seats in the history of Dutch elections, is that true? The real question is why other countries have so few parties. Do y'all hate democracy?
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Mar 14, 2017 20:15
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Corek posted:Something I want to know is why the Netherlands has so many parties. I heard that no party has ever gained a full majority of votes/seats in the history of Dutch elections, is that true? The threshold is really low. Anyone that gets about 2/3 of a % of the vote gets a seat in parliament. Many countries have a minimum like 5 or 10 % before they count. A significant portion of our parties bounce around 2-5 seats. Dutch politics is not first-past-the-post. Without a winner takes all, the formation of coalition is the norm. This allows people to vote for the party they want and discourages 'tactical voting'. And you know what they say; 17 million inhabitants, 17 million parties. Add to this that a lot of parties are formed by 'splitting' of another party. This means that even minor parties have some experienced people at the top to organise the new party.
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Mar 14, 2017 20:18
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gonna watch all these 5 track vids. mark rutte's picks are essentially klavier's but one generation older. one of those liberal fans of rock who's probably really into the aesthetics of rock buma's clearly going for beige-core. like consciously trying to be boring and bland. it literally has coldplay and the eagles. asscher, a man i've never heard of: i can't focus on the words he's saying so borinnggg. wearing some raggedy-rear end sneakers. lame dutch music, a joke about his name sounding a bit about usher, the trolls song. weak. pathetic. roemer: what the hell. most respectable answers so far. pechtold: ughhhhhh. pretty sure every one of these picks was carefully selected by a committee somewhere. the first party leader where i not only believe he chose these songs, i also don't believe this man has ever listened to music before roemer is the clear winner for me but only because the rest are so incredibly bad
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Mar 14, 2017 20:38
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R. Mute posted:gonna watch all these 5 track vids. Now you know what to vote
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Mar 14, 2017 21:12
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Thatim posted:Now you know what to vote in belgium ! !
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All things aside, and even if most of our politicians are scum.. they are a whooooole lot less worse than their american collegues. Watching a debat of center right wing vs Christian party about green energy, yelling at eachother that they arent fixing it hard enough. Comparing this to straight up denial... Wowzers
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