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Sophism posted:So let's assume neutral IVs. You missed her second hit from when she baited him, bringing him down another 14. Also, she can just not attack him on the second turn and finish him off on the third turn, since he'll have 3 HP left. Hector's usually the last guy left, so you have all the time in the world to kill him. Edit: Also, Hector would do 15 damage because of the precise way it rounds. Apparently it takes 20% of the Atk value, truncates that 20% number, and then subtracts it from the Atk. Clarste fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 10:32
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The moral of the story is never attack if you don't have to.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:37
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Is Karel's VA the same as Kivan from BG
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Mar 14, 2017 10:43
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I think Rebecca is the best unit on the banner. Straight up superior to Jeorge. Even with Parthia's passive he still has less Res. Rebecca has 40 speed w/ darting blow, that hits a lot of 34/35 speed characters pretty hard. Rebecca has less defense but not noticeable. Ardent Sacrifice is better than Jeorge's non-existant special I maybe saw once. She has some uses over Klein but still not as good as Takumi. If you haven't picked up an archer yet, it's worth it to pull some colorless at the risk of pulling garbage healers.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:44
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Clarste posted:You missed her second hit from when she baited him, bringing him down another 14. Also, she can just not attack him on the second turn and finish him off on the third turn, since he'll have 3 HP left. So in that case. She baits his attack and gets down to 22 HP. She countered him twice, bringing him down to 24 HP. So next turn she passes once again. He hits her once, her first counter gets reduced by Pavise, and the next one hits for the full amount. She's down to 8 HP and he's down to 3 HP. And then finally she can finish him off, having lost 28 HP in the process. I'm gonna go ahead and say that losing 12 more HP than Lucina would (And that's not counting the Falchion proc there.) and taking one more turn to deal with Hector doesn't really mean Olivia beats him "real easily"...
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Mar 14, 2017 10:48
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110 orbs pulling for Ninian. No 5*s. I did end up with about a dozen 4*s though. gently caress the drop rates in this game.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:49
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Lord Ephraim posted:I think Rebecca is the best unit on the banner. Jaffar actually isn't looking quite as bad as I initially thought, mine is 35 HP, 38 ATK, 35 SPD, 17 DEF, 11 RES @ lvl 33. That's with Life and Death lvl 2. With a dancer, I think he can be fairly scary.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:50
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Lord Ephraim posted:I think Rebecca is the best unit on the banner. Are you ignoring the part where Jeorge has 8 more Atk than her? 38 Atk isn't really viable for a damage character. Sophism posted:So in that case. It's enough. She won't be taking damage in the rest of the fight because she's dancing, and can finish off Hector no matter how damaged the rest of your party is.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:51
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This banner and the next one both suck.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:54
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What's the next banner?
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Mar 14, 2017 10:57
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GonSmithe posted:Karel and Azura is really stupid. You attack once with him, attacked back into low health and then one shot two units a turn. I wonder if there's a hero with Reciprocal Aid whose max hp is 70% of Karel's hp. So you can just start the pain train round one.
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Mar 14, 2017 10:58
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The next GHB banner. It's like Eliwood and Severa I think?
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Mar 14, 2017 10:59
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Mar 14, 2017 11:00
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Clarste posted:The next GHB banner. It's like Eliwood and Severa I think? Yeah, plus Minerva and Gordin, who can at least be mulched for Life and Death/Vantage. 
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Mar 14, 2017 11:03
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Clarste posted:Are you ignoring the part where Jeorge has 8 more Atk than her? 38 Atk isn't really viable for a damage character. Please tell me how good jeorge is because I like using him and feel bad about not rolling anything good.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:03
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Giving Olivia something like Triangle adept when skill inheritance rolls around might be a good idea. That you can expand her role to killing green units.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:05
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I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree. I could sink 22k feathers into my -SPD/+DEF Olivia, and get Dance in a package that doesn't completely tank my team's total stats. At the cost of having a unit that barely deals with Hector, has no bonus damage against dragons, (With Ninian coming into play.) worse damage by a large margin, worse survivability without sustain, and in my specific case having a large portion of the cast doubling her. Or I could spend 20k feathers on my +ATK/-DEF Nino instead. I'll wait for the skill inheritance patch first either way, but something tells me Olivia still isn't going to cut it for me.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:06
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Nuebot posted:Please tell me how good jeorge is because I like using him and feel bad about not rolling anything good. Jeorge is literally Takumi without Close Counter, and you rarely use Close Counter on offense. Sophism posted:Or I could spend 20k feathers on my +ATK/-DEF Nino instead. Nino does even worse against Hector, so I'm not sure what your point is.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:07
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I honestly think having dance is better than anything else in that slot. Everything else is just a bonus. I'd probably run a character with 1 in all stats and dance if it didn't tank my arena rating.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:09
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I'm incredibly excited to mush Hinata and put Fury and Brash Assault on my Lyn. She has pretty mediocre IVs but Brash Assault + Desperation seems really strong.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:11
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Frankly, I don't think Olivia is that good anyway, mostly because of her low BST, but she can in fact kill Hector without any support. I mean, that's all I was arguing.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:12
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Clarste posted:Nino does even worse against Hector, so I'm not sure what your point is. I'm unsure if you're acting deliberately obtuse here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. The point is I believe Nino is a better feather investment than Olivia is. Obviously I'm not using Nino as my Hector counter, when in my calculations I specifically weigh Olivia and Lucina in that matchup.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:18
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Mar 14, 2017 11:20
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Ostentatious posted:
What were you hoping for opening all 5?
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Mar 14, 2017 11:21
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Sophism posted:I'm unsure if you're acting deliberately obtuse here, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Well, maybe you misunderstood, but I was never arguing that you should promote Olivia. I was just arguing that someone would be justified in using her as an anti-Hector tool if they wanted to have her on the team. It is a perk she has, and I don't think it's fair to dismiss it with "she's not as good as Lucina." Of course she isn't; she's a dancer. It'd make Lucina kind of useless if she was, wouldn't it? I have no idea what your line-up is and I don't really care. I personally have spent 20k upgrading Nino and don't especially regret it. I also use Eirika to deal with Hectors, and she's not much stronger than Olivia in a straight-up fight. Clarste fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 11:24
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sassassin posted:What were you hoping for opening all 5? i was hoping for a "at least not a fir, henry and arthur who are all unimaginably lovely" but thanks for asking bruh
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Mar 14, 2017 11:24
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Ostentatious posted:i was hoping for a "at least not a fir, henry and arthur who are all unimaginably lovely" but thanks for asking bruh Please don't waste orbs on a healer banner if you're just looking for something generally useful.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:31
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Healers are generally a lacklustre choice for arena but they have their uses, and Priscilla looks to be far and away the best healer so far.
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Mar 14, 2017 11:50
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Too risky wasting your pity rate on colorless when you can pull something poo poo like Maria or Sakura. Just use a free Lissa as a healer if you want to level up units. I like the next banner because Minerva is amazing and I don't see a Hector focus anytime in the future. Selena isn't that bad, just not worth the 20k feathers over her 3/4* counterparts. Eliwood's the same. I can easily ignore colorless again.
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Mar 14, 2017 12:39
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Decided to do a pull because I've been itching for one and got... 5* Lucius. Ehh, I think. Like he's basically Azama+, which is nice for babysitting if nothing else.
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Mar 14, 2017 12:46
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Thanks for the 20 orbs game, I once again got 5 3*. That's the third time it's happened to me.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:12
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robbob posted:Can anyone give some suggestions on who to focus on leveling for a cohesive team? I don't have anyone up to 40 yet but that's the team I currently use. Working on leveling up linde. But this team struggles on any green heavy stuff so looking for suggestions. Tiki Y, Linde, Olivia, Takumi Congrats you can kick the poo poo out of anything in the game. In another news. For gently caress's sake game, all I wanted was blue dragon lady and you constantly shat red and green orbs at me. Oh and then my blues drew three odins in a row. Ah well.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:13
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That's a plain tiki, not a young tiki though. I'd say Linde, Takumi, Effie, Olivia. Or maybe Tiki instead of Olivia. Clarste posted:Jeorge is literally Takumi without Close Counter, and you rarely use Close Counter on offense. They're close, but even discounting close counter Takumi is generally a bit better. His special is more likely to be useful in an arena fight, and his stats are slightly better distributed. hit button fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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Mar 14, 2017 13:19
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Man they really need to think about giving an orb or the two orbs a day thing or that will kill the game for a lot of F2P people.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:21
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Really would like it if they made it so you could grab 1* versions of characters you wanted. Even if it was some high orb cost, I'd rather do that instead of pull stuff I'll never use.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:25
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Servaetes posted:Man they really need to think about giving an orb or the two orbs a day thing or that will kill the game for a lot of F2P people. The daily arena quests have an orb reward
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Mar 14, 2017 13:26
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hit button posted:That's a plain tiki, not a young tiki though. Oh yes my mistake. There's some excellent Tharja/Olivia/Linde synergy that I've noticed, so they could run Tharja/Olivia/Linde/Takumi. Tharja blows up green, Linde blows up Blue and Red, Takumi deals with any gaps and Olivia gives you a second explosion in the correct colour.
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Mar 14, 2017 13:37
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should i use my feathers on Effie or Sharena? i really can't decide help
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Generic Octopus posted:Really would like it if they made it so you could grab 1* versions of characters you wanted. Even if it was some high orb cost, I'd rather do that instead of pull stuff I'll never use. Yes, I would pay orbs or feathers for guaranteed 1*s.
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