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Horizon looks amazing on a normal PS4, but I haven't put that much time into it. Nier is loving amazing.
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do you want to play a solid arpg or some weeb sh*t they're both pretty solid games, i would hate to choose between the two Nostalgia4Infinity fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 03:02
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Whats Horizon gameplay like? I tend to get really bored with full on open world stuff. Never played a GTA more than a few hours, even MGS5 lost a lot of luster after the first 15 hours because I felt like I was just running around collecting mans for my base. What's Nier combat like? I love ARPGs and such.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:02
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:What's Nier combat like? I love ARPGs and such. have you played bayonetta or devil may cry it's kinda like that (platinum very obviously made the game, it's very telling) only it's also a bullet hell. it changes things up a lot tho so expect a lot of perspective shifts and changes to what you're actually doing during fights. you can also make the game more of a character action game with the plug in system since a bunch of cool moves are things you can equip on yourself e: there's a demo that you can try to see how the combat works. the actual game is a lot more open than that tho; you basically play the tutorial level in the demo
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Mar 15, 2017 03:05
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Never played those, but I played all of the Souls games and recently Nioh. edit: Oh nice, a demo. I should have checked first, but its been so long since Ive actually seen good games put out demos. Ill try it out.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:06
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It's worth noting that Nier is pretty forgiving in terms of difficulty. The enemies hit hard but you can equip auto-heal items and the dodge window is extremely wide.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:06
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they aren't like that at all. try the demo
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Mar 15, 2017 03:06
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I'm gonna stop gushing over Nier after this, but I just got Ending B and it made me so excited to play more Nier. It's crazy that I'm thinking about my game of the year this early and before Persona comes out but Nier is easily the best game I've played yet this year.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:11
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the c path is way better than a or b imo, so you still have even better stuff ahead of you
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Mar 15, 2017 03:12
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Nier Automata is a seriously good game, and is the only game since Nier to come close to being as good as Nier was
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Mar 15, 2017 03:12
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Horizon runs at a capped 30 FPS right?
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Mar 15, 2017 03:14
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Manatee Cannon posted:the c path is way better than a or b imo, so you still have even better stuff ahead of you Yeah I've been told that, it's just that the "Preview" was so different from my expectations that it blew my mind
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Mar 15, 2017 03:14
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I'm so happy to see other people who understand how good Nier is. I'm on route B right now and I can't wait to see what else this game does. Especially since I just did a side quest involving one of the cameo characters from original Nier.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:15
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considering the drakengard/nier lps, I'd say sa has had a pretty solid appreciation for yoko taro's brand of crazy for a long time
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Mar 15, 2017 03:17
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True but they're usually in weird threads that I don't ever look at.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:18
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:Whats Horizon gameplay like? I tend to get really bored with full on open world stuff. Like Witcher 3/MGS5 but not garbage. :bigtran:
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Mar 15, 2017 03:22
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Co-op games go. Anything from rocket league to uhh idk some other part of the coop spectrum
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Mar 15, 2017 03:23
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:I'm thinking about picking up either Nier or Horizon as a birthday present for myself. I don't have a PS4 Pro so Horizon won't look spectacular for me, and I never played the first Nier (But played Drakengard back in the day). Which would you guys recommend? Haven't played Horizon so I won't comment on it. Nier is an incredible and unique experience, but it is also a commitment. If you don't get at least 3 of the 5 main endings you are going to be left wondering what the gently caress everyone is on about. My final playtime was about 53 hours. I imagine if you spent a lot less time than I loving about you could probably get all 5 endings in 30. If you only get the first and second endings you are going to be unsatisfied almost assuredly.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:29
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Coughing Hobo posted:Here's a quick recap of what you need to know leading into Nier: Automata: Honestly, even though I read a lot of Drakenier lore prior to Automata, the only thing I needed to know going into Automata was Androids were used to shepard a project that was meant to save humans from a "plague," which went poorly, then aliens attacked and the androids were used to defend humanity. The game even recaps that much for you in text form if you're willing to find and read it. Deeper knowledge lets you catch cool things like locations from previous games or nods to the Cult of the Watchers, but the core story will still resonate with you either way. It's mostly about the relationship between two characters in the end, with the larger conflict echoing that relationship in surprising ways. Yorkshire Pudding posted:I'm thinking about picking up either Nier or Horizon as a birthday present for myself. I don't have a PS4 Pro so Horizon won't look spectacular for me, and I never played the first Nier (But played Drakengard back in the day). Which would you guys recommend? Which do you prefer? Gameplay first with well designed and balanced mechanics and well paced encounters, or a unique story that uses game langauge in innovative ways? If the former, Horizon. If the later, Nier. Horizon still looks (and runs) spectacular on a standard PS4 and I think it will appeal to the broader audience. Those who do connect with Nier will cherish it though. Yorkshire Pudding posted:Whats Horizon gameplay like? I tend to get really bored with full on open world stuff. Never played a GTA more than a few hours, even MGS5 lost a lot of luster after the first 15 hours because I felt like I was just running around collecting mans for my base. Horizon's combat is a pretty deep mix of The Witcher's monster fights, where you need to exploit weaknesses and bait behavior, with Tomb Raider's bow mechanics. Its open world is well paced, and you explore it in a well paced forking progression. I hate open world games, but I liked Horizon's open world. Nier's combat is like DMC or previous platinum games, but the balance is a little weird due to a variety of things. If you liked playing those games on easier difficulties, you'll like Nier. If you played them on Hard, or if you like "challenging but fair" games in general, you'll have the same frustrations I did. There's also a fair amount of fetch quests.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:29
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Horizon is an open world game in the sense that, there is a game world that is freakin' huge and fun to explore and there are quests, but not an open world game in the sense that there are a ton of awful collectibles and every sidequest feels like an actual fleshed out thing and not just "bring me 4 goat skins". In fact so far I have found exactly one "kill thing and bring me proof" quest and you'll finish it without meaning to because you'll eventually kill the thing anyway.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:44
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I started Nier 2 today and managed to die to the first boss which meant I had to replay the entire first section for a THIRD time (since that's what the demo was too). I was briefly pissed but that ended up being good practice and third time through I clowned all over everything. Finally time for some new stuff.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:50
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Bugblatter posted:Which do you prefer? Gameplay first with well designed and balanced mechanics and well paced encounters, or a unique story that uses game langauge in innovative ways? If the former, Horizon. If the later, Nier. the sidequests in nier aren't great but I really think you're underselling the gameplay in that game. it's extremely good
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Mar 15, 2017 03:50
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Speaking of Nier 2 now that I'm continuing and have inspected the first shop... is there a reason that it's offering to sell me duplicates of chips I already have? Is there any reason I would ever need more than one or is it just in case you deleted one?
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Mar 15, 2017 03:56
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At the very least pretty much all of Nier:Automata's sidequests are unique and do something to advance the story or explore the themes or flesh out the world a bit. There are even sidequests that add more-than-cosmetic additions to familiar hub areas. Nier:Automata is a really clever game, a lot of strange ideas put together in fun ways and all the holes are filled in with bullet hell sections.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:00
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Regy Rusty posted:Speaking of Nier 2 now that I'm continuing and have inspected the first shop... is there a reason that it's offering to sell me duplicates of chips I already have? Is there any reason I would ever need more than one or is it just in case you deleted one? If you die and lose your body you will lose all your chips that were equipped if you fail to acquire your body.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:00
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1) the game has a weird dark souls-esque death system where you lose plug-in chips and have to reclaim them from your body or else you lose them forever (at least I think that's what happens, I didn't really pay attention to what the game told me about that). hell, the checkpoints are basically bonfires. it's weird 2) you can combine chips into higher grade versions. 2 shockwave chips make a shockwave +1; 2 shockwave +1s make a shockwave +2. etc, etc
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Mar 15, 2017 04:01
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CharlestheHammer posted:If you die and lose your body you will lose all your chips that were equipped if you fail to acquire your body. Manatee Cannon posted:1) the game has a weird dark souls-esque death system where you lose plug-in chips and have to reclaim them from your body or else you lose them forever (at least I think that's what happens, I didn't really pay attention to what the game told me about that). hell, the checkpoints are basically bonfires. it's weird Ooooh thanks
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Mar 15, 2017 04:04
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Manatee Cannon posted:the sidequests in nier aren't great but I really think you're underselling the gameplay in that game. it's extremely good As a Platinum fan, I strongly disagree. (So long as you're looking for the tough but fair side of their gameplay. If you want flash and cool combos, that's there in spades.)
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Mar 15, 2017 04:07
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I like horizon but Nier plays much better.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:09
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Bugblatter posted:As a Platinum fan, I strongly disagree. (So long as you're looking for the tough but fair side of their gameplay. If you want flash and cool combos, that's there in spades.) a game doesn't have to be hard to be good. mechanically it's very good, and you can make it as deep as you want it to be with the plug-in chips you also get more options later on
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Mar 15, 2017 04:11
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Bugblatter posted:As a Platinum fan, I strongly disagree. (So long as you're looking for the tough but fair side of their gameplay. If you want flash and cool combos, that's there in spades.) You can always boost the difficulty until enemies literally one shot you
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Mar 15, 2017 04:13
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8-Bit Scholar posted:You can always boost the difficulty until enemies literally one shot you This can apply to either game really.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:13
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I've done about 44% of Nier sidequests. They definitely fall in the range of "grab this item for me over here", but nearly each one gives you a lil flavor of the world and it characters. Hell even the first 2 sidequests from the resistance merchants give you a example.  Thanks for the help! But I'm worried about myself/my friends...I've only just started my 2nd play through so of course I'm still going to have some big surprises in store. I'm staying away from the Nier thread in fear of spoilers. There's also some amazing gag endings, Ive gotten 3 of them. Death by eating a fish was amazing
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Mar 15, 2017 04:22
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I was underwhelmed by Automata's combat because my expectations may have been a little too high. It's solid enough if not as good as previous Platinum games or DMC, but backed up by a well-written story though. Certainly more fun than Nier1.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:26
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bloodychill posted:I was underwhelmed by Automata's combat because my expectations may have been a little too high. It's solid enough if not as good as previous Platinum games or DMC, but backed up by a well-written story though. Certainly more fun than Nier1. Its the sequel to an rpg with extremely basic an unbalanced combat so they arent going to make it a new dmc have some perspective
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Mar 15, 2017 04:34
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Manatee Cannon posted:a game doesn't have to be hard to be good. mechanically it's very good, and you can make it as deep as you want it to be with the plug-in chips Regarding not having to be hard to be good: That's why I qualified my statement saying "for people who want the tough but fair aspect." I specifically said the flash and combos were still there. It is 100% okay to enjoy combat on that level, but people who have similar values as me in their gameplay systems are going to feel misled if told "the combat is deep like previous Platinum titles!" The chips are a lot of my problem. If you're on Very Hard or Hard without many chips, then you can be killed by janky moments and the punishment is brutal. If you're on Hard using optimal chips, or any of the easier difficulties, button mashing will get you through the game. You can execute combos and juggle enemies if you want, but it's kind of a superfluous remnant of Platinum's older games. If you just want to see your character do cool things, it's neat. I've finished the game, all sidequests, and all secret bosses. I know what's available later on.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:42
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:Whats Horizon gameplay like? I tend to get really bored with full on open world stuff. Never played a GTA more than a few hours, even MGS5 lost a lot of luster after the first 15 hours because I felt like I was just running around collecting mans for my base. I know I've already gushed a lot about Horizon itt quite a bit but I'd really say play it anyways. I am a total open world burnout. I would say that I only marginally enjoy even the best of them, but the combat in horizon in genuinely engaging against machines, everyone of them has there own little quirks to figure out and even once you have killed 50 of one type it's usually still pretty fun, and humans are pretty standard but they are rare enough it never really gets old stealth heads shotting guys. Beyond that, the world map is more interesting than anything I've played in the genre. It's incredibly varied and full of cool things to check out. Quite original too. Geographically and thematically it's all over the place. I don't feel like saying too much because I think it would spoil it a bit. The story is actually really interesting and well paced as well with lots of mystery and genuinely enjoyable characters. I'd really give it a Rec even to people who are understandably skeptical of the entire genre. To me it would be the best exclusive I'd Bloodborne didn't exist and even then BB only inches it out by a hair.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:48
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Real hurthling! posted:Its the sequel to an rpg with extremely basic an unbalanced combat so they arent going to make it a new dmc have some perspective Like I said, my expectations were too high so that was on me.
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Mar 15, 2017 05:17
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Man both the games look great after watching some reviews. I got a bit of the Nier demo down but only had a few minutes to play. If I hadn't just bought For Honor (Dont buy it) a few weeks ago and Nioh (Buy it) before that I'd just grab both of them. The only other thing I've been thinking about is The Last of Us. I've never played it and it's only $20.
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:The only other thing I've been thinking about is The Last of Us. I've never played it and it's only $20.
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