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Bad Seafood posted:Please tell me there is a way to make hacking easier, barring lowering the difficulty - or at least tell me there's some way to bolster the amount of hits I can take. lowering the difficulty reduces the number of shots it takes to kill enemies oh you said barring that well lets hang out fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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just remember that you're faster than the enemies while hacking, so most you can circle strafe and shoot at. honestly most patterns in it can be solved with copious amounts of circle strafing.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:52
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McDragon posted:Fast Travel unlocked in the first run made me laugh even though I messed it up. Got to the quest that opened it up, then decided to do sidequests and explore and stuff. There was a lot of hoofing about with me bitching about not having fast travel. Then I finished the quest. RanKizama posted:
I'm comforted to know that this happened to others. Then just to rub it in, i had a similar thing happen trying to get to the spot to take the third photograph.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:54
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No Mods No Masters posted:There isn't, good luck to you The little guys are fine but any time I try to jump into anyone else it's a nightmare. Bugblatter posted:Nope. Always three hits, as indicated by the tail geometry falling off of your cursor. It's the most basic shmup patterns around though, so some practice will get you there. I dunno if lowering difficulty does anything at all? Unless it makes it so only the easier games occur. STANKBALLS TASTYLEGS posted:just remember that you're faster than the enemies while hacking, so most you can circle strafe and shoot at. I know this probably reads as me being whiny but I had to vent somewhere so sorry for the fuss.
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Mar 15, 2017 03:58
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It's ok I dislike hacking too and shooters.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:32
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I just completed the stamp quest and it owned.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:35
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Route C seems difficult.
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Mar 15, 2017 04:38
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CharlestheHammer posted:I just completed the stamp quest and it owned. This. The Amusement Park area in general owns, and stamp quest is one of my favorite sidequests.
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Mar 15, 2017 05:21
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I feel like I probably wasn't supposed to fight level 40 Father Servo at level 12
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Mar 15, 2017 05:47
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I'm pretty sure you aren't intended to finish that side quest until your second playthrough.
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Mar 15, 2017 06:03
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Anyone know what's up with these two quest markers? http://i.imgur.com/UdjEFMr.png http://i.imgur.com/eCv09DK.png Second one is the same place as the Phoenix Dagger, first is the building you land on.
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Mar 15, 2017 06:15
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kirbysuperstar posted:Anyone know what's up with these two quest markers? 1. Check the lower floors, I believe it's floor 3 or 4 iirc. 2. Try approaching the marker from the forest.
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Mar 15, 2017 06:17
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if you open your map and snap the cursor to a quest area and then hit the place marker button you can turn the map to the side to see what elevation the marker is at. helps for stuff like that building, the red bubbles are almost always centered right on the thing you're trying to find.
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Mar 15, 2017 06:20
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Just cleared the Amusement Park on Route B. Never change Taro Yoko. 
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Mar 15, 2017 08:07
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No Mods No Masters posted:1. Check the lower floors, I believe it's floor 3 or 4 iirc. Could have sworn I did both of those but welp. Cheers.
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Mar 15, 2017 08:23
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kirbysuperstar posted:Could have sworn I did both of those but welp. Cheers. The first of those is bugged and doesn't always spawn, unless it was fixed in the most recent patch. You'll eventually be able to force it to spawn with chapter select, though it will be after you've seen some narrative stuff it ties into, which would be a shame.
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Mar 15, 2017 08:30
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Bad Seafood posted:Lame. P sure you can lock on in hacking on normal and lower.
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Mar 15, 2017 08:34
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Bugblatter posted:The first of those is bugged and doesn't always spawn, unless it was fixed in the most recent patch. You'll eventually be able to force it to spawn with chapter select, though it will be after you've seen some narrative stuff it ties into, which would be a shame. Yeaaaaah, I noticed. Oh well.  Not even Platinum can iron out all the Cavia.
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Mar 15, 2017 08:40
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I feel like the game dev machine is a good self insert
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Mar 15, 2017 09:04
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kirbysuperstar posted:Yeaaaaah, I noticed. Oh well. Eh, Platinum are known for jank too. I think that's almost part of why Platinum and Taro were a dream match up
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Mar 15, 2017 09:11
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Can someone tell me what all this talk of routes is? Like are they different paths you can take in the game or do you beat the game and then start a new story like the scenario A scenario B stuff from Resident Evil 2?
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Mar 15, 2017 09:58
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Mr President posted:Can someone tell me what all this talk of routes is? Like are they different paths you can take in the game or do you beat the game and then start a new story like the scenario A scenario B stuff from Resident Evil 2? Without any overt story spoilers, Route A is your first playthrough. Route B is your second, it's largely a retread of the first playthrough but it adds some context to certain events and characters and adds a new gameplay gimmick. Route's C and D pick up right where route A and B left off, with the split in ending coming down to a specific decision you make very close to the end of the game. One option yields C, the other D. You unlock E after acquiring both C and D. Endings G-Z seem to be all joke option failure states.
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Mar 15, 2017 10:03
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Failboattootoot posted:Without any overt story spoilers, Route A is your first playthrough. Route B is your second, it's largely a retread of the first playthrough but it adds some context to certain events and characters and adds a new gameplay gimmick. Route's C and D pick up right where route A and B left off, with the split in ending coming down to a specific decision you make very close to the end of the game. One option yields C, the other D. You unlock E after acquiring both C and D. Endings G-Z seem to be all joke option failure states. oh ok so once you complete route E. You have essentially completed the storyline/main quest of the game?
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Mar 15, 2017 10:39
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Correct.
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Mar 15, 2017 10:56
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I could probably stand and watch these robots throw confetti while the Amusement Park theme plays all loving day. Holy poo poo. slev posted:I feel like I probably wasn't supposed to fight level 40 Father Servo at level 12 brainwrinkle posted:I'm pretty sure you aren't intended to finish that side quest until your second playthrough. Really? I clocked him out in one try at around level 24 my first run through on Normal. He was pretty easy. RanKizama fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 11:39
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I have a major gripe about A2. Having A2 not explicitly be the original 2B, that defected after she couldn't take killing YoRHa members anymore, seems like a huge narrative blunder. And if that is the case, it was certainly not convoyed that way except maybe the part when she cut her hair. Having A2 just dumped into the story as the new co-lead without any set up or motivation explained along the way/at the end seems so dumb. A2 getting 2Bs memories through her sword is such a cop out. Or am I just the one being dumb and missing some kind of meta narrative to why A2 replaces 2B when they are 90% the same anyway? Is there a section of story I missed about A2 somewhere? Assuming that A2 is supposed to be 2B gone rogue, then why would she give a poo poo about the robots anymore, shouldn't she be entirely focused on killing YoRHa and especially 2B to free 9S from the cycle? Wouldn't it make more sense for A2 to try and convince 9S that A2 and 2B are one in the same just with a divergence of memories? How awesome would it have been if A2 SHOWED 9S the memories of her killing 9S over and over, instead of us having to read it in a blog or something. Only for 9S to completely reject that idea because his memories of 2B are what make her 2B and not that A2 was once 2B? Echoing and finally understanding 2Bs idea that you are only who you are in this moment. Having that be A2s thing would have been more poignant then just 'I'm angry because my friends died in a unrelated event that will never be explained in game' Really they could have just not had A2 in the game at all and have 9S think that 2B is dead only for her to appear in the tower later and confess she's an E-Type. 9S's mental state would be so far gone at that point he doesn't believe 2B would do that, or doubt she is the real 2B, considering he just had to slaughter a bunch of fake 2Bs. So they inevitably fight and 9S either tragically kills 2B or she sacrifices herself to save him from the logic virus. Like what A2 did (for some reason, I guess she has 2B memories or some poo poo) This is only part of the story I felt was handled poorly.
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RanKizama posted:Really? I clocked him out in one try at around level 24 my first run through on Normal. He was pretty easy. He gets beefier. If you took out his final form at 24, color me impressed. The peace parade side quest is also better saved for your second playthrough. Much less frustrating, and still hilarious. I think finding the treasure in the castle is also in the running for my favorite side quest. The 2D platforming and exploration feel really good.
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I think on my next playthrough, I'm going to refuse to use the bomb pod program because that thing, especially charged, trivialized the hell out of most fights even moreso
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brainwrinkle posted:Route C seems difficult. gently caress yeah it does. I keep stalling at the stumble around bits.
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brainwrinkle posted:He gets beefier. If you took out his final form at 24, color me impressed.
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Mar 15, 2017 15:17
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If you hack Father Servo you win instantly
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Mar 15, 2017 15:18
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loving P ending get outta here LET ME RUN E: this is the first lame as poo poo thing the game has done so far. Seriously having to walk across this game map without being murdered oh that's cool I get knocked down and get stuck into a hit loop until I'm knocked to the bottom of the map stuck there to lose Two loving hours of this poo poo I don't know how to move about the map without jumping or dashing I wasn't trained for this verbal enema fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 15:27
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Monomythian posted:I have a major gripe about A2. A2's backstory is explained in the game at the terminal in the resistance camp, which is a shortened retelling of this: http://nier2.com/blog/yorha-stage-play/ A2 is not meant to be a replacement for 2B in any way, nor is she really a co-lead. She's very much a tertiary protagonist. A2 wasn't ever painted as the new 2B, and she doesn't want to be or anything of the sort. The closest she comes to it is that when she's hacked by Hegel in the desert, part of 2B's memories merge with hers but it's never a case where she's fighting for control of her own body or whatever. Her cutting her hair is a symbolic gesture of accepting 2B's request to protect Earth, Humanity and 9S. It would be out of character for 2B to be all parasite brain jack too, she's very much accepting of life and death. A side-quest tells you she's okay with her death when it comes. She's not killing YoRHa units exclusively because the entire reason she defects is because to Command, YoRHa androids like A2 were sent to die in battle without mercy. She kills E-Types (whose personality is based on her own) out of self-defence. She kills machines because that was her mission and she believes in that, even at the end when 9S challenges her to a duel to the death and he tells her it's all fake. When it boils down to it though, she's got nothing to do but her mission because she lost everything, and the thing she had wants her dead. She can't convince 9S that she is 2B because she isn't 2B. She doesn't need to show 9S the memories 2B had of killing him because he's known all along that she's there to put him down and that she hated it. Like, I don't think A2 is handled especially well myself, but I think you've come out of Automata with a completely misunderstood point about A2 as a whole, or you're disappointed that what you imagined she is isn't correct.. A2's character is basically telling a story about what happens to combat veterans who lose everything for their "country" (YoRHa in this) and get nothing back for it. Number 4 was "more than just friends" with A2, in the same way that the feelings 2B has for 9S are. Basically, a large part of Automata's message is that War is just pointless, killing people who are your enemy just because you're told their your enemy is is stupid because they're just the same as you at heart and 2B and A2 tell very different aspects of being a soldier and them being the same person wouldn't help achieve those things. Josuke Higashikata fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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verbal enema posted:loving P ending get outta here LET ME RUN I don't quite get how you've managed to not get this done after 2 hours of effort, what route are you taking? If you take the route on the right out of the tunnel, you can basically get out of the basin with a single jump, so wait at that jump until you get your jump back momentarily. After that, just give enemies a real wide berth.
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Or you can go left and take the long way around which requires no jumps
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The first one and a half was being drunk last night and this theory minutes has been trying to remember what I was doing
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Mar 15, 2017 16:10
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verbal enema posted:The first one and a half was being drunk last night and this theory minutes has been trying to remember what I was doing Oh, yeah, I can see how it would happen in that situation.
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Ok no now it's real 40 loving minutes this makes no sense at all E: I got it let's pretend that this never happened verbal enema fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 16:33
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I have Emil story questions that I kinda forgot about until now. Why was he in a robot anyway? Like... is he the only one in one of em? He didn't even know why he was in there himself and that detail is just kind of confusing me in hindsight. Also isn't he and his clone army TECHNICALLY human? I mean dudes a skeleton ball so maybe it's hard to argue that with the machines/androids but I find it kind of funny that he's the thing androids are trying to protect.
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Beginning of C: I came real close to loving that part up because I fell into the big hole and had to try twice to get out.
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