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lollontee posted:Well, give the man a 10+ for tenacity. Hell, if I didn't despise every part of his politics, ethnicity and public persona, I might evebn vote for him. 
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So what kind of parliament would Macron have to work with? I'm going to assume that his own party's not really going to win much in the way of seats, so is the expectation that he would form a government on the basis of PS/LR legislative co-operation?
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Hey it might be OK, he might just mean a white male.
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My girlfriend received this email from her Outre-mer representative.quote:Hold-up sur le droit de vote des Français de l’étranger TLDR: Suppression of the electronic vote is not only totally unfounded, but a conspiracy that benefits someone-who's-easy-to-guess. It's an attack against French people oversea. Vote FILLON because who cares about the rest when you too can be a single issue voter? QUICK SOMEONE DOUSE THIS TIRE FIRE!
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YF-23 posted:So what kind of parliament would Macron have to work with? I'm going to assume that his own party's not really going to win much in the way of seats, so is the expectation that he would form a government on the basis of PS/LR legislative co-operation? Ah yes. A grand coalition lead by a neoliberal narcissist. What could possibly go wrong.
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Celexi posted:Also, is France trying really hard to get le pen elected? why the gently caress is someone being indicted even running for president? are they trying to do a hillary clinton but worse? Fillon is a piece of poo poo who has promised to sabotage the country if he's elected; he's also a Kremlin stooge and a professional embezzler. Hillary Clinton, for all her fault, is a saint compared to him. Sadly it looks like we'll end with Macron president. However, that's what polls say, and polls are not something I'm going to blindly believe. I'd rather have Hamon in the Elysee, but as long as it's neither Le Pen nor Fillon I'll be relieved if not happy.
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Signatures up date Rank Name Signatures #(+LAST GAIN) 500 yet: #1 François Fillon 2953(+842) #2 Benoît Hamon 1717(+400) #3 Emmanuel Macron 1548'(+282) #4 Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 672(+42) #5 Jean-Luc Mélenchon 666(+243) #6 Nathalie Arthaud 623 (+30) #7 Marine Le Pen 618(+41) #8 François Asselineau 569(+45) Not at 500 yet: 9 Jacques Cheminade 469(+72) 10 Jean Lassalle 453(+164) 11 Philippe Poutou 352(+112) 12 Alain Juppé 312(+14) 13 Rama Yade 217(+66) 14 Alexandre Jardin 107(+43)  Son of a movie writer, Prix Femina(basically the Prix Goncourt equivalent but with an all female Jury) winner at 33, Science Po graduate, Writer, movie Director, Citizen, Alexandre is a nice & successful guy from a famous Parisian family that's horribly hard to hate, despite his ease to succeed at everything he loving do. So to tarnish his perfect image of "too good to be true" in order to look actually human(aka horrible like us all), he decided to try politic(you see it's literally family's history). Of course he is going to dissolve his party after the election and go back to writing, but still he is doing that poo poo so well, he may as well write a book on ethic while doing it, the loving nice bastard. He is so nice and actually smart he joined the Macron supporter crew a few month back and quited it soon after because, i quote, "he is just exactly like the other politician and it's mostly just a good communication campaign and i am candidate because i can", that all you need to know. Imagine younger Terry Pratchett, not yet insanely successful, not yet sick. The worse i can say related to him is that his grand dad was a big wig in Vichy(but was the kind of master grey eminence people needed after war to fight communist and he wasn't stupid enough to fall with Laval, his master, so he came back quick, like it was easy). And that poo poo is here because i am really trying to say/find something bad about the grand child and "his grand dad was a a Magnificent Bastard of legendary class by French standard" is all i can say. In short, his grand dad was half Vetinari and half Little Finger and his nickname was Yellow Dwarf because of course he had a nice nickname! So all hail Yellow Dwarf the third, i guess. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Mar 14, 2017 |
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So yeah, Erdogan's continuing to double down. https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/841727191201267712
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Sinteres posted:So yeah, Erdogan's continuing to double down. SPON had an interview with "the most accurate Turkish pollster" today, who said that Erdogan is bound to lose the referendum by a pretty hefty margin (40% against, 28% in favor, the rest undecided with a tendency to against) http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/tuerkischer-meinungsforscher-ueber-niederlande-krise-alles-nur-show-a-1138649.html In that case his only chance might be to cancel the referendum all together, because the Fascists are suppressing him
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LEAKED! Official Agenda for the destruction of Germanyquote:We had installed hundreds of flat screems for spreading arab messages from the wahabit quran, telling that CHRISTS are low animals which must be slaughtered and that nobody was to spare and that it was Gods will to teach a western woman respecting the god-warriors – endlessly, by infinite loop.
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GaussianCopula posted:In that case his only chance might be to cancel the referendum all together, because the Fascists are suppressing him
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Toplowtech posted:"I lost because Holland wasn't nice" sounds like the most stupid excuse one could bring up. No, he would say "The Eurofascists are suppressing our freedom of speech, which means proud Turks can not vote! We therefore must cancel/delay/suspend the referendum!"
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GaussianCopula posted:No, he would say "The Eurofascists are suppressing our freedom of speech, which means proud Turks can not vote! We therefore must cancel/delay/suspend the referendum!"
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Toplowtech posted:Good Updates and stuff Man i would vote for Terry pratchett so hard,and even harder for vetinarii because i wouldnt have to vote ever again. Brb gonna go read night watch again.
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loving lol if Jean Lassalle gets in and Philippe Poutou does not.
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who the gently caress keeps giving cheminade signatures
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V. Illych L. posted:who the gently caress keeps giving cheminade signatures Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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Mar 15, 2017 06:44
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the same people who gave asselineau his sigs
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Another great headline/google translate winning combination.
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Lord of the Llamas posted:Another great headline/google translate winning combination. It's actually not a Google Translate fuckup, it's an actual headline.
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Sinteres posted:So yeah, Erdogan's continuing to double down. I think this guy has lost his loving mind. But if he does lose the vote, I guess he's setting up things for some bullshit conspiracy as to the reason why. Is there a way to kick a nation out of NATO? While I'm fully aware Turkey is important and all that... this just does not seem worth the effort. Sure he would crawl towards the Russians, but Turkey has seemed more like a conditional partner lately than a proper ally. Lately being since that failed coup, though this guy was an asshat before then. It's just gotten much worse. That I'd ponder the idea that Turkey has become more trouble than it's worth is not something I had expected. But... that goes for a lot of things that have happened in the past year, so...
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Yureina posted:I think this guy has lost his loving mind. But if he does lose the vote, I guess he's setting up things for some bullshit conspiracy as to the reason why. The NATO charter says it is an alliance of democracies. One could argue that Turkey is sliding into a dictatorship. Don't know if that would be reason enough, but I say go for it.
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I don't know what you are smoking but the US will absolutely under no realistic circumstance kick Turkey out of NATO.
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Andrast posted:I don't know what you are smoking but the US will absolutely under no realistic circumstance kick Turkey out of NATO. Exactly. Turkey is a democracy as long as the US and by extension NATO say it is.
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OperaMouse posted:The NATO charter says it is an alliance of democracies. One could argue that Turkey is sliding into a dictatorship. Don't know if that would be reason enough, but I say go for it. Portugal was one of the original charter signers and was a literal fascist state with it's own mickey mouse concentration camp in 1949.
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What the gently caress is wrong with the ECJ at the moment? Big turn for the xenophobic lately with the refugee visa and religious symbol rulings. OperaMouse posted:The NATO charter says it is an alliance of democracies.
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Electronico6 posted:Portugal was one of the original charter signers and was a literal fascist state with it's own mickey mouse concentration camp in 1949. As I recall they didn't kick Greece out during the Regime of the Colonels either.
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jBrereton posted:What the gently caress is wrong with the ECJ at the moment? Refugee visas are clearly something the legislative should decide and not a court and allowing employers to ban religious symbols is just common sense. Re Nato chat: What would be the advantage of kicking Turkey out? If you want to hurt them, kick them out of the tariffs union and end the EU ascension talks.
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GaussianCopula posted:Refugee visas are clearly something the legislative should decide and not a court and allowing employers to ban religious symbols is just common sense. No it isn't you weirdo.
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lollontee posted:No it isn't you weirdo. Dress codes have been a legal thing for forever. The ECJ ruling was pretty clear, you can disallow religious imagery as part of the dress code but then it has to be all religious imagery. If companies should be allowed to limit the freedom of expression of their employeers to the degree that they can today is an entirely different question though.
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MiddleOne posted:Dress codes have been a legal thing for forever. The ECJ ruling was pretty clear, you can disallow religious imagery as part of the dress code but then it has to be all religious imagery. If companies should be allowed to limit the freedom of expression of their employeers to the degree they can today is an entirely different question though. What if my religious imagery is wearing business casual
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GaussianCopula posted:end the EU ascension talks. Maybe it's that slowly dawning realisation that's causing him to lash out like he has the past couple of months.
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Collateral Damage posted:The EU talks are basically just stringing Erdogan along, there's absolutely no way Turkey is actually joining the EU under his rule. It's more about the money Turkey gets as part of IPA II and less about Turkey actually joining the EU. Andrast posted:What if my religious imagery is wearing business casual There would be no problem with that.
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Andrast posted:What if my religious imagery is wearing business casual
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GaussianCopula posted:There would be no problem with that.
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MiddleOne posted:Dress codes have been a legal thing for forever. The ECJ ruling was pretty clear, you can disallow religious imagery as part of the dress code but then it has to be all religious imagery. If companies should be allowed to limit the freedom of expression of their employeers to the degree that they can today is an entirely different question though. An entirely different question to which the answer, for anybody with any sense, is clearly "no".
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Shibawanko posted:An entirely different question to which the answer, for anybody with any sense, is clearly "no". Yeah but on that the legal status currently is 'gently caress the employee' which isn't really the ECJ's fault.
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MiddleOne posted:Yeah but on that the legal status currently is 'gently caress the employee' which isn't really the ECJ's fault. These things are won in small battles. If you try to ban dresscode bullshit entirely in one big law, you won't get anywhere. Employers should be denied the right to meddle in their workers' rights at every turn, even if it's not a general legal principle, by winning lawsuits and frustrating their efforts.
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In the abstract I don't oppose companies being allowed to establish a no political/religious dress code if they want, I wouldn't want an employee of mine wearing a swastika pin and not being able to order him to remove it or fire him. As long as it was applied equally around the board it could be somewhat defensible. But lets not be coy here, even if applied equally it's still the same as saying "the law forbids both the rich man and the poor from sleeping under the bridge". It's never going to applied equally nor was it meant to, it's about muslims in it's inception. If anyone believes this law will be used to order a jew to remove a kippah I have a bridge to sell them. In the meanwhile I'll sit right here, waiting for the first catholic that is told he must wipe his Ash Wednesday cross. It's a really confy chair. MeLKoR fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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