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exquisite tea posted:The character creator and models look considerably better than they appear in Andromeda, which is what makes it all especially baffling. There's an obvious change in art direction between the two that's partly to blame, with DA:I playing things pretty straight and ME:A attempting a sort of stylization that looks relatively fine on the aliens but terrible on the humans.
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Serf posted:So you're both stating opinions, it looks like anyways. Battlefield 1 animations and facial animations were top notch. Some people seem to be implying it's Frostbite's fault. Just clearly stating it isn't Frostbite. Battlefield 1 was a hell of a game actually. It shocked me that it was as good as it was. But aside from all that, the animations are clearly top notch while using that engine. So, basically, it isn't even a subjective opinion. It's more objective fact when comparing the two since ME:A is so bad on an epic level of terrible.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:15
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^^^ when 90% of the games made on an engine have poo poo animations, I tend to wonder if maybe the other one is an exception to the rule and it's time to drop that poo poo off a cliffnopantsjack posted:It is a shame because you can have garbage graphics and get away with it if you have good animations, its way harder to do the other way around. Art direction.... matters?!?!?!
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Mar 15, 2017 17:15
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Utnayan posted:Battlefield 1 animations and facial animations were top notch. Some people seem to be implying it's Frostbite's fault. Just clearly stating it isn't Frostbite. Battlefield 1 was a hell of a game actually. It shocked me that it was as good as it was. But aside from all that, the animations are clearly top notch while using that engine. So, basically, it isn't even a subjective opinion. It's more objective fact when comparing the two since ME:A is so bad on an epic level of terrible. "My opinions are objective fact" - a crazy person
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Mar 15, 2017 17:16
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Serf posted:"My opinions are objective fact" - a crazy person Pretty much describes everyone here
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Mar 15, 2017 17:16
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Utnayan posted:Dice nailed it with Battlefield 1. So... ? Hahahahahaha
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Mar 15, 2017 17:17
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Do you think I'd need to have a 1060 to enjoy the game at a decent graphics setting, or will my 750ti cut it? Also I have logitech dlc I can give away, but it's only redeemable to origin for the PC version
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Mar 15, 2017 17:17
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neonbregna posted:Maybe you just don't get Bioware and should move on to a video game company that makes games that appeal to you. I got Bioware. KOTOR. ME1, 2. Original Dragon Age. Jade Empire. This isn't that Bioware anymore. So let's quit pretending Bioware is the same Bioware first.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:17
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Norns posted:It also helps when everything you show about a game doesn't make people laugh or cringe The fact it makes me laugh every time a human talks or emotes is a plus to me, or at least if we're not getting good faces I'd rather get these bad ones. What I'm struggling with is whether these animations would look funnier on a cool Ryder or a hideous abomination Ryder. The character creator looking bad scares me a bit because I'm worried I won't be able to make an abomination.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:18
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Norns posted:Pretty much describes everyone here I assume that I am always wrong.
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Serf posted:"My opinions are objective fact" - a crazy person When you look at the animations of ME:A currently, and have someone insinuate it's the engine's fault, then point to the engine use in another game in which the animations are drat near about as perfect as you can get them, that's called objective fact that it isn't the engine's fault.
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the panacea posted:Hahahahahaha Hey, let's be honest here. Both Bioware having lovely programing skills and Frostbite not being the best option can both be true.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:19
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So since Andromeda hasn't been cleansed of organics by synthetics billions of years ago do we think they're going to address this massive counterexample to the Reaper's dumb theory? Or are they just going to gloss over it. It's the latter isn't it?
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Crabtree posted:Hey, let's be honest here. Both Bioware having lovely programing skills and Frostbite not being the best option can both be true. I agree with the notion that Bioware has no clue about animation and that Frostbite kinda sucks for facial animations. The BF1 facial animations suck too.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:20
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Utnayan posted:When you look at the animations of ME:A currently, and have someone insinuate it's the engine's fault, then point to the engine use in another game in which the animations are drat near about as perfect as you can get them, that's called objective fact that it isn't the engine's fault. Thanks for continuing to claim your opinions as objective fact. It's really helpful to have more examples of this behavior.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:20
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Crabtree posted:Hey, let's be honest here. Both Bioware having lovely programing skills and Frostbite not being the best option can both be true. Frostbite being lovely also doesn't excuse bioware because they still chose to use it even though it's poo poo.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:20
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Frostbite being lovely also doesn't excuse bioware because they still chose to use it even though it's poo poo. There is also the matter of how it walls off modding which is just fine for EA.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:22
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I Am A Robot posted:So since Andromeda hasn't been cleansed of organics by synthetics billions of years ago do we think they're going to address this massive counterexample to the Reaper's dumb theory? How would it possibly be addressed? Other than Shepard in ME3, literally nobody has ever learned that the reapers do what they do based on strict theories of history/civilization/synthetic-organic conflict, much less the content of those theories
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Mar 15, 2017 17:23
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:Frostbite being lovely also doesn't excuse bioware because they still chose to use it even though it's poo poo. All EA games have to use it now, the only game I've ever liked on it was Bad Company 2 but since then every game on it has dropped the only good thing from it (destruction) and that just leaves you with a mediocre engine. Then they replaced the euphoria (which should be mandatory in ALL games) FIFA engine with it and they made me a mortal enemy.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:24
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Utnayan posted:I got Bioware. KOTOR. ME1, 2. Original Dragon Age. Jade Empire. Companies are just like people and change over time.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:26
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nopantsjack posted:The fact it makes me laugh every time a human talks or emotes is a plus to me, or at least if we're not getting good faces I'd rather get these bad ones. Okay we've arrived, time to close the thread until the game is out.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:26
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Inverness posted:Let's not kid ourselves, EA invested in Frostbite and they forced everyone to use it because they'll be damned if they pay royalties to Epic for an Unreal Engine license when they have their own tech. So it goes all the way to the top, my god Whoever picked the engine was being poo poo at the time, whether it was an EA exec or someone at bioware. If it was out of Bioware's hands, I can't really fault them for it.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:26
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:So it goes all the way to the top, my god It isn't the engines fault. It's the developers. Bioware doesn't have any talent what so ever any longer.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:27
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Do you think I'd need to have a 1060 to enjoy the game at a decent graphics setting, or will my 750ti cut it? i think a 1060 is way more horsepower than you need to run it at decent settings but, uh, a 750ti is pretty old and not too great to begin with
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Mar 15, 2017 17:27
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I have joked a lot about being more excited for nier:automata than ME:A over the past few months, and now it's actually true. 2017 is fuckin weird.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:28
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neonbregna posted:Companies are just like people and change over time. Yes. And the people make the place. So, Bioware is no longer Bioware. Doesn't mean I don't "get" Bioware, unless you are insinuating I don't get the "Current" Bioware, in which case you would be right. Along with the other 99% of us that don't get them either because there isn't anything to get. EA runs the show now. Bioware is nothing but a name now.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:29
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RIP, I was an idiot and pre-ordered the game way back when, so now I can't get the 10% discount from Origin Access. I even contacted their support to see if I could get a credit on my account, but no dice.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:32
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That clip of Kumail is so cringey. RIP $90 CAD. He's so fantastic in things and this is just terrible loving direction.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:33
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I still don't see an option to grab the origin access trial version. It still says "Learn more" and takes me to the store page instead of "get it now". Isn't it supposed to be available for preload now (the trial version)? Anyone else not seeing it? I'll bitch to customer service if it's still not there when I get home I guess
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Mar 15, 2017 17:35
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"Windows pre-load date: March 17, 2017 6:00 PM CET" What the heck Didn't you buttholes say this was coming out today
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Mar 15, 2017 17:37
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Zzulu posted:"Windows pre-load date: March 17, 2017 6:00 PM CET" That's for the full version. The trial version (that you get by paying for origin access) is up on 3/16 but someone said it's supposed to be preloadable today? But I think I'm being gaslighted because I don't see any way to get that version at all
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Mar 15, 2017 17:40
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Watching Nexus gameplay now. The colony director's VA is appropriately mass effecty but she might have the deadest face so far.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:41
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Mar 15, 2017 17:41
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This game looks so bad that it's making people mentally ill
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Mar 15, 2017 17:44
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Control Volume posted:This game looks so bad that it's making people mentally ill *iller
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Mar 15, 2017 17:45
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Control Volume posted:This game looks so bad that it's making people mentally ill Some still haven't recovered from ME3 Ending Derangement Syndrome.
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I Am A Robot posted:So since Andromeda hasn't been cleansed of organics by synthetics billions of years ago do we think they're going to address this massive counterexample to the Reaper's dumb theory? I mean the entirety of the Mass Effect trilogy culminating with Rannoch and the defeat of the Reapers at Earth was the counter-example. It's not like Shepard decided the Reapers were right and let humanity be liquified unless you chose reject.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:47
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Firebert posted:I mean the entirety of the Mass Effect trilogy culminating with Rannoch and the defeat of the Reapers at Earth was the counter-example. It's not like Shepard decided the Reapers were right and let humanity be liquified unless you chose reject. I chose that ending by accident (I shot starkid)! What a way to finish the trilogy while playing it for the first time.
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Mar 15, 2017 17:50
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Did Joker's hat become sentient when it was turned in to a robot? Is it forever part of his body now? Does it feel pain? Does the robo-hat need a hat to keep the sun out of it's eyes?
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It's preloadable at 530 pm est today
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