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Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

zmcnulty posted:

Cheapest? Internet cafes are cheaper than capsule hotels and have semi-private booths with fully reclining chairs or mats. However the ceiling is usually open, so in a sense you're sharing a bedroom.
They often want you to become a member or some poo poo too.

There are also "DVD viewing" places like Kintaro: http://kin-v.jp/pc/top/, you'll definitely be the only gaijin at one of these.
Similar price as an internet cafe but you'll get a private room and almost too much porn to handle.
Open ceilings are grand, I just like having a lock on my door. Do they let you leave stuff in the room while you go out and about so I'm not carrying luggage everywhere, or is that what coin lockers are for?

As for "DVD" places, I assume they're thoroughly scrubbed between uses but... yeah... maybe I'm not looking for the very cheapest places to stay now.

edit: Unrelated question - someone I know who fancies visiting Japan is vegan. Is he basically gonna be living off tofu and literally nothing else? I don't recall seeing much decent food that didn't have some kind of egg or fish in it.

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


There's hippie vegan places in Tokyo at least and Buddhist temple food is also vegan. Otherwise you're hosed, dashi is in everything and that's made with fish.

If you can convince him to loving relax and be pescetarian for a couple weeks then no problem at all doing that in Japan.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


vegans have to special request at most restaurants, then it's Don't Ask Don't Tell and Hey Do You Want My Fish Cake after the food arrives.

Freaksaus
Jun 13, 2007

Grimey Drawer
Plenty of hostels also have private rooms which can still be a lot cheaper than a regular hotel.

Question Mark Mound
Jun 14, 2006

Tokyo Crystal Mew
Dancing Godzilla

Grand Fromage posted:

There's hippie vegan places in Tokyo at least and Buddhist temple food is also vegan. Otherwise you're hosed, dashi is in everything and that's made with fish.

If you can convince him to loving relax and be pescetarian for a couple weeks then no problem at all doing that in Japan.
Figured that'd be the case!

Speaking of dashi, I finally developed a taste for miso soup during my last trip and now I can't get enough of it. Let's see how much sodium my body can handle before my heart explodes!

teddust
Feb 27, 2007

Question Mark Mound posted:


edit: Unrelated question - someone I know who fancies visiting Japan is vegan. Is he basically gonna be living off tofu and literally nothing else? I don't recall seeing much decent food that didn't have some kind of egg or fish in it.

Getting a decent vegan meal is impossible at most Japanese restaurants. That said, Tokyo and Kyoto both have a bunch of excellent vegan restaurants. When my wife and I visit Kyoto we basically plan our itinerary as a series of delicious dinners punctuated by random site-seeing.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Question Mark Mound posted:

Open ceilings are grand, I just like having a lock on my door. Do they let you leave stuff in the room while you go out and about so I'm not carrying luggage everywhere, or is that what coin lockers are for?

As for "DVD" places, I assume they're thoroughly scrubbed between uses but... yeah... maybe I'm not looking for the very cheapest places to stay now.

edit: Unrelated question - someone I know who fancies visiting Japan is vegan. Is he basically gonna be living off tofu and literally nothing else? I don't recall seeing much decent food that didn't have some kind of egg or fish in it.

Manga cafes won't even have real doors usually haha

prompt
Oct 28, 2007

eh?
Airbnb can be almost as cheap as many capsule hotels

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Make sure your Airbnb has a shower.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Magna Kaser posted:

I was thinking splitting 4 days between osaka and kyoto then heading to tokyo for a couple more days before leaving. Is there anything cool in the middle I'm missing?

Between Osaka and Kyoto, Kyoto has the more interesting attractions by far. Osaka has the better night life, probably, but unless that's a huge thing for you, stay in Kyoto.

Possible day trips: Himeji, Nara, Ise (is between Kyoto and Tokyo). You'll want a good two full days in Kyoto at the very least. You can easily fill 3-4. I'd say plan to fit 3-4 places in Kyoto per day, depending on location/size.

Sand Monster
Apr 13, 2008

Phone posted:

Make sure your Airbnb has a shower.

Is it common to find many that do not?

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
I found one that did not. After a short 10ish hours of walking around Kyoto, I was a bit shocked to find shampoo but only a toilet in my last Airbnb for my trip last year.

extravadanza
Oct 19, 2007

Sand Monster posted:

Is it common to find many that do not?

It seemed like a lot of them didn't, when I was booking an Airbnb for Kyoto last April. It's weird, but make sure you confirm there is a shower when booking an airbnb in Japan!

Mandalay
Mar 16, 2007

WoW Forums Refugee

Magna Kaser posted:

I am most interested in eating foods and just wandering around.

Osaka has better food and less mainlander tourists per capita than Kyoto. Try the beef, kushikatsu, okonomiyaki, and takoyaki there. Dotonbori in Osaka is more fun at night than Kyoto, though the latter does have some quieter bar areas.

prompt
Oct 28, 2007

eh?
Never seen one without a shower and I stay in at least a dozen Airbnb apartments a year, just in Japan. But yeah I guess double check it has one.

Ailumao
Nov 4, 2004

LimburgLimbo posted:

When are you going? If depending on season cheap accommodations can fill fast

Finalizing plans now, but probably 1st week of May to overlap with communist labor day May Day. Honestly the plane tix are cheap enough if accommodation ends up being a little pricier I'm not gonna be too angry, but this is a reason I'd like to lock in X days in each place beforehand.

e: lol i just saw this is golden week in japan. Might re-schedule this to a week later!

And thanks for the tips everyone!

Ailumao fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 17, 2017

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


yeah you can get cheap flights if you fly opposite Japanese tourist traffic. But hotels will be full af (so couchsurf with goons??? )

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
Yeah I'd loan you my couch but I'm in 'Murica for the first 2-3 weeks of May.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


so just give him your whole apartment

swalk
Nov 20, 2004
bucka blaow
I'm going to Japan during May and happen to be getting my bonus during that time.

Figured I might as well treat my wife and I to one or two really good meals. I'm looking for recommendations for restaurants in either Tokyo or Kyoto for two things:

1. Sushi
2. Kaiseki

Let's say there's (almost) no budget, but I don't want to spend money just for the sake of it.

Besides specific restaurants, any tips for this kind of thing would be appreciated too.

Hamshot
Feb 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
The one and only time I went to Japan the first Airbnb I stayed at didn't have a shower. It was at that real neat capsule tower that'll probably get demolished soon if not already, so I thought the location was enough of an outlier as to not be representative of the availability of showers in Tokyo Airbnb places.

Mandalay
Mar 16, 2007

WoW Forums Refugee

swalk posted:

I'm going to Japan during May and happen to be getting my bonus during that time.

Figured I might as well treat my wife and I to one or two really good meals. I'm looking for recommendations for restaurants in either Tokyo or Kyoto for two things:

1. Sushi
2. Kaiseki

Let's say there's (almost) no budget, but I don't want to spend money just for the sake of it.

Besides specific restaurants, any tips for this kind of thing would be appreciated too.

On our honeymoon, kaiseki was included in our fancy ryokan (breakfast and dinner). It was exquisitely amazing. If you can spare just one night at a ryokan I would recommend it.

In Tokyo, we went to this place for sushi. Michelin starred. Lunch is cheaper. https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1301/A130101/13002573/
http://www.luxeat.com/blog/sushiko-honten/

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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swalk posted:

I'm going to Japan during May and happen to be getting my bonus during that time.

Figured I might as well treat my wife and I to one or two really good meals. I'm looking for recommendations for restaurants in either Tokyo or Kyoto for two things:

1. Sushi
2. Kaiseki

Let's say there's (almost) no budget, but I don't want to spend money just for the sake of it.

Besides specific restaurants, any tips for this kind of thing would be appreciated too.

I went to Yoshitake last year and won't hesitate to recommend it. They open up reservations on the first of the preceding month, so for a May reservation you'd need to call April 1st.

If you're interested PM me and I can give them a call for you, else check out the listings on luxeat, she does a pretty good job of listing things up and writing about them. Most of the highest rated places do get booked pretty far in advance, so beware.

swalk
Nov 20, 2004
bucka blaow

Mandalay posted:

On our honeymoon, kaiseki was included in our fancy ryokan (breakfast and dinner). It was exquisitely amazing. If you can spare just one night at a ryokan I would recommend it.

In Tokyo, we went to this place for sushi. Michelin starred. Lunch is cheaper. https://tabelog.com/en/tokyo/A1301/A130101/13002573/
http://www.luxeat.com/blog/sushiko-honten/

We actually are staying in a ryokan in Takayama: http://www.takayama-yamakyu.com/english/

I assume it has good food but maybe not at the level of an expensive kaiseki restaurant.

swalk
Nov 20, 2004
bucka blaow

Stringent posted:

I went to Yoshitake last year and won't hesitate to recommend it. They open up reservations on the first of the preceding month, so for a May reservation you'd need to call April 1st.

If you're interested PM me and I can give them a call for you, else check out the listings on luxeat, she does a pretty good job of listing things up and writing about them. Most of the highest rated places do get booked pretty far in advance, so beware.

Thanks to both of you for that great luxeat.com site, I'll be checking it out now.

And thanks for the reservation offer, I may take you up on it.

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
Traditional kaiseki in general is better in Kyoto (since thats the founding region for it). Tokyo has some very good modern kaiseki, but you typically have to spend for it. I actually like the Tokyo ones better, just because modern chefs are super experimental and cool that way, but I'm sure some obaasan would adamantly say i'm wrong.

Personally, I've been to so many ryokans and had various levels of kaiseki that at this point I will tell you that main thing that's cool about kaiseki is that you get a variety of flavors, similar to a tasting menu. Most ryokans have decent kaiseki, but every once in a while I get a place that blows me away.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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If you're up for an original take on kaiseki this is a place I like which does kaiseki inspired dishes with Chinese flavors: https://tabelog.com/tokyo/A1309/A130903/13170301/

Argona
Feb 16, 2009

I don't want to go on living the boring life of a celestial forever.

Hey, I'm leaving for Japan tomorrow!!! wow!!! give me a line group thing so I can be goony ask for sweet recs and stuff while I'm there!

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
^ same but on sunday

CaptainCrunch
Mar 19, 2006
droppin Hamiltons!
^ same but on Tuesday

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Wow hope you guys have a fun trip and have better dining preferences than some of the resident bad Japanese food posters.

AND WHO THE gently caress USES TRAVELERS CHECKS? YOU REALLY HAVE BAD OPINIONS ABOUT JAPAN AND ARE WORSE THAN THE PEOPLE WHO DO TOKYO OSAKA AND KYOTO IN 5 DAYS

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
If money is no object would go with stringent his advice on Japanese food is phenomenal and cheers to stringent and to all my tokyo goons. I don't regret going to Tokyo 8 times in two years and love you all.

As for sushi recommendations balls to the walls gently caress your wallet good, there's kyubei. It's more for tacky nouveau Riche but lunch is super easy to get a table and it's solid.

Then there's tokami which makes a heavenly tuna roll.

But before that go to a chain place like sushi sanmai as a benchmark. 24 hours with 3000 yen tuna set meals yeah they are great.

Shout out to mizutaki genkai. Kaiseki is hit and miss. There's tonkatsu, unagi, ramen and a different robata places to go

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


look in my post history for line thingy I guess

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

caberham posted:

If money is no object would go with stringent his advice on Japanese food is phenomenal and cheers to stringent and to all my tokyo goons. I don't regret going to Tokyo 8 times in two years and love you all.

As for sushi recommendations balls to the walls gently caress your wallet good, there's kyubei. It's more for tacky nouveau Riche but lunch is super easy to get a table and it's solid.

Then there's tokami which makes a heavenly tuna roll.

But before that go to a chain place like sushi sanmai as a benchmark. 24 hours with 3000 yen tuna set meals yeah they are great.

Shout out to mizutaki genkai. Kaiseki is hit and miss. There's tonkatsu, unagi, ramen and a different robata places to go

Almost hanami season dude

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
When is it? If it's the weekend I would pop over

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
hi coming in to just say that Den in Tokyo is currently my favorite restaurant i've ever been to thank you.


also the lady at zanmai kind of stared at me when I ordered 13 plates of the 5-piece bluefin tuna set for my table of like 4.

photomikey
Dec 30, 2012

Argona posted:

Hey, I'm leaving for Japan tomorrow!!! wow!!! give me a line group thing so I can be goony ask for sweet recs and stuff while I'm there!
I'm literally on the plane to Japan right now. JAL shoutout!

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

caberham posted:

When is it? If it's the weekend I would pop over

I meant in general but there should be something specific going on too if you ask line group

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Can you please ask for me? I have a lot of catching up. Thanks!

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peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I think goonami is April 8th

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