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Manxome Foe
Apr 6, 2005

Beware the Jabberwock, my son! The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!

cams posted:

because i find the circlejerky meme groupthink stuff gross, which tends to happen with popular games. instead of new people coming in to engage about a game they enjoy, it becomes a thread full of the same people shitposting constantly because they think criticism is inherently witty or funny.


Welcome to the somethingawful.com forums. Is this your first day?

It looks like the Access/Origin early access is only for PC/Xbone, right? If I want to play on PS4 I have to wait until Tuesday?

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cams
Mar 28, 2003


CharlestheHammer posted:

Have you played the game
yeah i played for 3-4 hours yesterday. played about an hour of story and the rest in multiplayer. i enjoyed it quite a bit.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Bossie Lott posted:

What sort of music would have felt more appropriate though? Some big orchestral thing with violins and whatnot would be equally out of place for a medieval-inspired setting too since they're all way outside of that timeframe.

being slaves to the timeframe in the video game about a white haired autist killing ghosts and loving witches is a bad approach imo and they should have had their characters dress better too

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Cowcaster posted:

do you regret spending $5 on the trial overall? i was planning on doing it for the multiplayer over the weekend but now i don't want to bother but i could probably be convinced otherwise

If you haven't played Plants vs Zombies 2 or This War of Mine it's worth it. There is a month of other trash games in EA's catalogue of poo poo available too but those are the highlights.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Zzulu posted:

Not sure what game the naysayers are playing tbh. This isn't any different than the other ME games at all so far

Haha, ain't that the truth

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

eonwe posted:

hey bud, whats up

I'm getting ready to play God's Gift to PC Gaming in 12 hours when I get my Nier: Automata key, and rn I'm watching Sean Spicer duck out of the press conference because he can't take it anymore.

Also, I saw a post on reddit I thought was kinda neat, an artist talking about why specifically the characters look all dead eyed and such, and no, it's not "EYEBROWS" like some people ITT are saying. The TL;DR is that it seems like they decided to scale up their scope to TW3's for whatever reason and bit off more than they could chew, for whatever reason be it incompetence or funding or EA meddling or whatever your pet theory is.

AngryBooch
Sep 26, 2009
Dragon Age Inquisition areas vs Andromeda planets:

Instead of Strongholds to take over you have Enemy Bases to take over.
Instead of High Dragons to slay you have high level native wildlife boss fights.
Instead of establishing camps to resupply, rest, and fast travel to you call in drop pods to resupply and fast travel to.
Instead of collecting leather, metal, cloth, and herbs for crafting, you scan for minerals and elements for crafting.
Instead of activating Astrarium Puzzles to unlock vaults, you're activating Remnant Artifacts to unlock... vaults.
Doing these things give you a resource called Inquisition Power in DAI, doing these things increase a planet's habitability in MEA.

Can anyone tell me if Andromeda also features landmarks and random Rift fights with demonic aliens? Or large collectathons with items spread across many different planets?

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
hi there, i'm a mass effect fanboy who used to champion the me3 ending because lol and after playing 5 hours MASS EFFECT ANDROMEDA i can tell you that it is bollocks and its bad and i might, maybe, buy it super cheap in the future and maybe play it when i don't have anything better to do but this is not that day.

everything feels off and full of jank. scanning is so bad (and i like me2 scanning) that even on the first desert planet i got to, the game kept closing the scanning menu every time i tried to bring it up to progress. even the game thinks it is bad. i actually thought the animations and delays and poo poo were hardware issues maybe but lol. nope. i like the map transitioning things tho in the galaxy map and how you can see where you are in the galaxy. they've gone well above peak bioware writing tho, everyone feels stupidly self aware like amatuer school play with no rehearsals. and the bad voice acting isnt helping. even zelda had more natural voice direction going on. loving zelda. (zeldas voice acting is real bad FYI) there was a part where i considered muting everything after i kept hearing PATHFINDER every 2 seconds. combat feels like someone at bioware decided that me1 combat was the best and went back to it. eh. charge still owns tho. kinda surprised how badly they hosed this up, thank god for this loving trial otherwise i would have been pissed at spending 50 quid at it. the gently caress happened.

speaking of which, how are we travelling around without mass relays? i tried to piece together a timeline and it seems to be after me2 when they all left the milky way right? ah gently caress it, who cares.

Vikar Jerome fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Mar 16, 2017

Bossie Lott
Nov 21, 2010

Fojar38 posted:

being slaves to the timeframe in the video game about a white haired autist killing ghosts and loving witches is a bad approach imo and they should have had their characters dress better too

Yeah but why does that make heavy metal guitar riffs sound out of place? In fact that summation of the witcher makes it sound like a perfect fit

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

I'm getting ready to play God's Gift to PC Gaming in 12 hours when I get my Nier: Automata key, and rn I'm watching Sean Spicer duck out of the press conference because he can't take it anymore.

Also, I saw a post on reddit I thought was kinda neat, an artist talking about why specifically the characters look all dead eyed and such, and no, it's not "EYEBROWS" like some people ITT are saying. The TL;DR is that it seems like they decided to scale up their scope to TW3's for whatever reason and bit off more than they could chew, for whatever reason be it incompetence or funding or EA meddling or whatever your pet theory is.

this is a cool and good link

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy

Cowcaster posted:

do you regret spending $5 on the trial overall? i was planning on doing it for the multiplayer over the weekend but now i don't want to bother but i could probably be convinced otherwise

nah, I feel good about spending the $5, because I got to try it out and see its probably not for me. heres the thing, if you liked me3 multi, you will PROBABLY like this. i have a bad habit of buying bad games Im not sure I'll like because, hey, you gotta buy it to try it out right?

I basically saved $55

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Vikar Jerome posted:

hi there, i'm a mass effect fanboy who used to champion the me3 ending because lol

speaking of which, how are we travelling around without mass relays? i tried to piece together a timeline and it seems to be after me2 when they all left the milky way right? ah gently caress it, who cares.

How can you be a fanboy and not understand how travel with the relays worked?

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Didn't think we'd get to use :gary: :yarg: in another sci fi action game thread

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Kirios posted:

I didn't realize Giant Bomb made a video.

So I watched 20 minutes of the video.

Dude, stop defending this game. It doesn't look that good.

The Giant Bomb video made me realize 2 things.

1) the game looks pretty bad

2) Giant Bomb is full of loving idiots who I'm impressed can tie their goddamn shoes in the morning. Holy poo poo some of their play, and criticism, was insanely stupid even as they ignored actual real issues in front of their faces.

like goddamn.

AwkwardKnob
Dec 29, 2004

A good pun is like a good steak: A rare medium well done
Reddit post says "Good news: It's all fixable with quality of life patches in the upcoming months."

If that's true, then I'll wait until the game has been out for a while probably. I want to like this game goddamit. If I play it at launch I might never be able to take it seriously.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Bossie Lott posted:

Yeah but why does that make heavy metal guitar riffs sound out of place? In fact that summation of the witcher makes it sound like a perfect fit

I dunno, maybe because it was also trying to be some super serious dark fantasy where everything is grim (and people say gently caress all the time) and there's no intentional levity and have you seen Game of Thrones whoa what a cool television show

Like I said it's been years so maybe if I gave it a 4th chance with a better computer I would like it more.

Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UfRXJoBo0w

Looks like you won't need a gtx1060 at least, 970 runs it just fine on ultra.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

Finished the singleplayer trial. Still got about a little less than three hours of play time, but man this is seriously a weak start. I am trying to convince my friends that preordered to cancel and at least wait until release reviews. I am certainly glad I didn't spend more than 5 bucks for Origin Access to play the trial.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Fojar38 posted:

I dunno, maybe because it was also trying to be some super serious dark fantasy where everything is grim (and people say gently caress all the time) and there's no intentional levity and have you seen Game of Thrones whoa what a cool television show

Like I said it's been years so maybe if I gave it a 4th chance with a better computer I would like it more.

W3 is much better in nearly every way, while W2 is not a bad game it has a lot of flaws.

The story however is good and lots of people really like it as a result.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

AwkwardKnob posted:

Reddit post says "Good news: It's all fixable with quality of life patches in the upcoming months."

If that's true, then I'll wait until the game has been out for a while probably. I want to like this game goddamit. If I play it at launch I might never be able to take it seriously.

Ah, BioWare is taking the Paradox approach. That explains this.

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

Fojar38 posted:

I dunno, maybe because it was also trying to be some super serious dark fantasy where everything is grim (and people say gently caress all the time) and there's no intentional levity and have you seen Game of Thrones whoa what a cool television show

Like I said it's been years so maybe if I gave it a 4th chance with a better computer I would like it more.

Witcher 2 is a dark and serious game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_PGBDtQRhQ

Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

cams posted:

dragon age inqusition is one of my favorite games of all time and i hope they do more of what they did there. since bioware seems to agree, maybe bioware games are not for you and you should move on?

haha

cams posted:

i am not arguing about how my opinion is the right one and how people who don't agree with my opinion are stupid. i wish more people would share their actual experience with the game instead of circlejerking over memes so they can confirm their opinion of badgame as true and good.

cams my man I think you've lost your loving mind

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

How can you be a fanboy and not understand how travel with the relays worked?

i understand it fine and i understand there are no mass relays in andromeda. im talking about the galaxy map here, not the 600 year trip.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

eonwe posted:

lol witcher 3 is the greatest RPG ever made

It's a loving storygame!

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



Berious posted:

Didn't think we'd get to use :gary: :yarg: in another sci fi action game thread

do you star citizen enthusiasts happen to know why trumpet mouth is a symptom of amateur mocap? i think that's what it must be because it's the only connection between the two but have no idea why it would happen

Mr. Baps
Apr 16, 2008

Yo ho?

Vikar Jerome posted:

i understand it fine and i understand there are no mass relays in andromeda. im talking about the galaxy map here, not the 600 year trip.

They're flying around a single star cluster, not an entire galaxy

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




AwkwardKnob posted:

Reddit post says "Good news: It's all fixable with quality of life patches in the upcoming months."

If that's true, then I'll wait until the game has been out for a while probably. I want to like this game goddamit. If I play it at launch I might never be able to take it seriously.

I did the same thing with Assassin's Creed Unity, and it turned out to be kinda OK after its mountain of quality of life patches. Maybe something similar will happen here?

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Fojar38 posted:

I dunno, maybe because it was also trying to be some super serious dark fantasy where everything is grim (and people say gently caress all the time) and there's no intentional levity and have you seen Game of Thrones whoa what a cool television show

Like I said it's been years so maybe if I gave it a 4th chance with a better computer I would like it more.

I bounced super hard off of witcher 2 as well, but I'm just kinda tired of fantasy settings in general in single player games. Multiplayer games it's more about who I'm playing with than the setting, so things like FFXIV are okay. I'll probably pick up TW3 when I feel like I really want to go back to a good old fantasy setting, but I'm still kinda hesitant because I don't like the zero character customization main character.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Reminds me a lot of FF13 talk really.

It's alright 20 hours in.

After 20 hours of linear, barely tolerable garbage.
(I say that as a broken person who liked FF13 and its sequels)

Ainsley McTree
Feb 19, 2004



Huh. still don't remember it

I mean it exists, obviously, I'm looking at it, but I can't place the scene it's in

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



At least (some) members of the Mass Effect Reddit have good heads on their shoulders
Becoming obvious this game isn't gonna get the scores we were hoping for, but even so, be nice to reviewers

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

Vikar Jerome posted:

i understand it fine and i understand there are no mass relays in andromeda. im talking about the galaxy map here, not the 600 year trip.

Andromeda takes place within the Heleus Cluster.

The Normandy never used a Mass Relay to travel within a single Cluster. It used Relays to travel between Clusters.

Lumpy the Cook
Feb 4, 2011

Drippy-goo-yay, mother-gunker!
There's a pretty substantial correlation between people who really vocally like Bioware games and vocally hate the Witcher. Come to think of it, I don't think I've really seen much vocal dislike of the Witcher anywhere except discussions of Bioware games, DA:I in particular. Why is this?

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Admiral Ray posted:

Ah, BioWare is taking the Paradox approach. That explains this.

Well.. Paradox games are basically just maps and interface and rather simple event coding with more or less hardcoded underlying coded mechanics, improving upon them is going to be a lot easier than an AAA monstrosity such as this.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Wiseblood posted:

Witcher 2 is a dark and serious game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_PGBDtQRhQ

i didnt get that far

the framerate in that video was giving me ptsd though

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
Yeah I love RPGs. Let me play this game with a premade character with full voice acting and cinematic cutscenes. Sometimes I get to choose whether my character wants more money, or accepts the recommended amount of money. Oh sweet, I leveled up. I think I'd like 5% extra damage with light attacks, thank you.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Avalerion posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UfRXJoBo0w

Looks like you won't need a gtx1060 at least, 970 runs it just fine on ultra.

Sweet, that's reassuring. The environments look great. Shame about the faces.

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

AwkwardKnob posted:

Hey guys its easy. Everytime cams says something like this just post

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA07hLF-3tE

You know the majority of people in here have been around because they DID indeed intend to buy this game and hoped it would be good. Your logic is so painfully autist in deeming that anyone understandably alarmed by these issues is here just because they enjoy trashing it. You would prefer emotionless objective commentary I guess? Anyway, watch the video. Go ahead, try it out. No one's gonna tell on you cams

That video is gold.

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Zelder
Jan 4, 2012

Like save your meltdown for something that matters more than a videogames dude

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