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FunkMonkey posted:This is a very fair and appreciated assessment, and I think we're in accord. I'm not likely to get this at launch because there are a number of games I need to work through first and I want to see what people think beyond the early stretch of the game. As I've said previously, the game looks like good stupid fun, in part because of the wonky tech, and I really want to see impressions of the full on game after a few weeks when everything has simmered down. I agree and I have put that post in the second post of the OP for easier reference, same as I put Rookersh's post in the first.
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This isn't the breath of the wild thread, but if you own a system capable of playing it, please consider taking a look. Your time will not be wasted Also that Turkey leg walking animation from this game is phenomena
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Axel Serenity posted:Yes, according to their Origin Access ME page Thanks!
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Dexo posted:1. Games have had systems that allow you to navigate anywhere. might not be through "climbing" but yeah. I feel like if you're going to honestly compare Far Cry 2's stuff to Breath of the Wild and the ability to manipulate the world and not tell there is a massive, massive difference to the point where it is a new concept then: A. I think you're being ridiculous, and: B. Then nothing in any video game ever has unique concepts. Everything's been done. Which, of course, is a terrible mindset to have, and leads to people have nostalgia tinted glasses their entire life. Zelda's ability to navigate, combined with the exploration and discovery amongst the massive world, is new and completely different. In fact, this is the number one reason why it scored as the best game ever (in terms of perfect scores). Still think you're being unreasonable. Your #3 response I can kind of buy, perhaps it's more of an evolution compared to points 1 or 2, but it's still a significant leap forward.
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monster on a stick posted:Wait, even AC2? You collected all the feathers so Mama Auditore would tell you what a good boy you were? I never took that cape off for the rest of the game.
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Hulk Krogan posted:They explain it (sort of) when you get to the Nexus Spoil it for me because I have zero desire to buy this game right now but krogan are v cool
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Bolow posted:I haven't read like any of this thread but this probably got asked like 3000 posts ago. It was mentioned in the original trilogy, specifically ME2, that Krogan have adaptable genes and are "correcting" for the genophage. That's why Mordin had to engineer a sequel genophage to keep things going. The Nakmor clan, also from ME2, have a mutation that scientists noticed might curb the effects of the genophage. They used their 600 year nap to undergo gene therapies that boosted their offspring viability to 4%, up from closer to .1%.
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I like that the little story blurb for the Krogan vanguard is that he just got shitfaced and walked onto the wrong ship. VVVVVVVV #Cerberus also HAHAHAHA re: Cassandra, come on guy. Buck Wildman fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Mar 16, 2017 |
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I always find Reddit's dumb poo poo funny (spoilers for romance options): "Romance options. So I'm hardly very far in the game, this might change.... But wtf Bioware? IknowIknowIknow, I'm supposed to love banging the aliens. I'm a huge ME fan after all!!!...... Buuuuuuut I don't. I do love a good romance though. I'm just into humans, and specifically females. Nice to see I have one single option as a straight male dude. Really Bioware? I can bang a Turian and a couple Asari, a cat thing, and a couple dudes... but one human female? Every replay of this game, I guess that's what I'm stuck with. And of course they made Cora a badass beat-'em-up butch lady with a haircut to match. So I'm a little upset on that front." It's the same situation as Inquisition where people were upset that Cassandra was too "tough" to be a straight male romance option.
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Bolow posted:Spoil it for me because I have zero desire to buy this game right now but krogan are v cool The krogan in the cryo-sleep pods are undergoing an experimental gene therapy to increase the % of their pregnancies which are viable
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Mar 16, 2017 22:02
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marshmallow creep posted:I agree and I have put that post in the second post of the OP for easier reference, same as I put Rookersh's post in the first. If you actually check the credits of the games in question Rookersh's post is revealed as total bullshit so why would you put it in the OP
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Hey guys! A word from Mac Walters - Creative director of Mass Effect Andromeda. quote:Creative Director Mac Walters revealed in the latest issue of the Official Xbox Magazine (via Daily Star) that the character animation quality is at an “all-time high” for the studio because it’s all about “expressiveness, emotion and a connection with the player.” http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2016/07/31/mass-effect-andromeda-pushing-frostbite-boundaries/#fGSfUIDLIjsBCUfT.99 Man, is that some funny poo poo right there. Whatdya think VideoGames?
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I think I was warming to Cora a bit as I played, but the trial isn't long enough to really get to know her. Perhaps that's the problem with the trial. You feel rushed to get in as much "game" as you can in 10 hours, and with a game this size it's daunting. But several times I felt uneasy talking to people because they awkward shell faced drones instead of humans and I just wanted to run away from them and do something else.
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Fojar38 posted:cassandra is arguably the best romance scenario bioware has ever made She's awesome and certain elements of video game nerds reject her completely (along with Aveline in DA2 for that matter) for being too "masculine" or whatever. It's like you were saying earlier in the thread, a lot of Bioware's criticism does come from people with ridiculous politics, which actually makes it difficult to discern real critiques from dumb ones. I'm interested in how Andromeda plays, if the characters are interesting, if the dialogue is good, and if the story is entertaining. That's basically it for me.
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Varam posted:If you actually check the credits of the games in question Rookersh's post is revealed as total bullshit so why would you put it in the OP Because people asked for it to be there multiple times.
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:I haven't played botw, but I don't think I was the one referring to ubisoft towers. My only umbrage is when someone says botw sets new ground and does radically different things than other games, and I haven't seen anything like that. It looks like a game that does things that other games have done, but just much better than before. That's not a new concept, kinda like how TW3 doesn't really do anything prior 3rd person RPGs haven't already done, but it just does them much better. The only new thing it does that other games haven't done, if maybe not as well or as large, is being mobile, and that's a selling point for the switch, not botw. That comment wasn't to you, FYI. I would absolutely argue that my previous points are radically different than every other game before it (and especially if you compare it to other open world games). The powers you are given open things up in a fantastic way, there are multiple solutions for everything you do, and are literally free (after the 2 hour tutorial area which is massive) to do whatever, wherever you want with those powers. The game does not give a gently caress about what you do, just gives you the abilities to do whatever your heart pleases. Of my favorite games of the last, lets say ten years, I can point to things that stand out to me as the pinnacle of what their genre does, and say "This is the best story of RPGs." as an example. Breath of the Wild is...different, from that. I'm tackling that game literally in a way I've never played a video game before. It's an entirely new way to play a game and the freedom that's been given me in a world filled with drat near endless possibilities is an experience that everyone in this thread needs to play. Would you feel the same way? No, probably not. There's a good chance the things I just posted did not convince you at all that what the game does is different. But to me, it is. It's a joy in a video game I haven't felt since at least Super Mario 64 or Ocarina of Time. At 30 years old, I thought that kind of experience in a game was dead to me. I may never get that feeling again. But for now, I cherish my time w/ Breath.
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Bolow posted:Spoil it for me because I have zero desire to buy this game right now but krogan are v cool When he says 'sort of' he means it's a blatant handwave. They evolved in stasis somehow so now they aren't a dying race anymore, regardless of whether you cured the genophage or not. Then a bunch of them got pissed over Salarian racism and abandoned the Nexus, they have a colony on one of the habitable worlds (but not the demo one, AFAIK). Drack, the Krogan companion, is pretty good and brings to mind vintage Wrex.
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Kirios posted:I feel like if you're going to honestly compare Far Cry 2's stuff to Breath of the Wild and the ability to manipulate the world and not tell there is a massive, massive difference to the point where it is a new concept then: Pretty sure in Far Cry 2(Hell even 3 and 4) I used the physics engine to do a buuuuunch of fun poo poo to dick around. the Physics and world interactions were literally the only reason to play that game. A game putting all of those systems together in this manner is "new" and great. But it's not like Nintendo created new ingredients. They just took ingredients that already existed(trimmed the excess) and used them to almost perfection. And it's not nostalgia. But I see pieces of games I love and enjoy in Zelda executed significantly better than those previous games ever did or could.
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marshmallow creep posted:I think I was warming to Cora a bit as I played, but the trial isn't long enough to really get to know her. What's the length of the game? Ten hours into DA:I is nothing, either you are rushing to get to Skyhold, or you are still stuck in Haven and doing sidequests before the plot really kicks in with the Mage/Templar recruitment storylines. But DA games always tend to start off with a slow burn.
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Nichael posted:She's awesome and certain elements of video game nerds reject her completely (along with Aveline in DA2 for that matter) for being too "masculine" or whatever. It's like you were saying earlier in the thread, a lot of Bioware's criticism does come from people with ridiculous politics, which actually makes it difficult to discern real critiques from dumb ones. I'm interested in how Andromeda plays, if the characters are interesting, if the dialogue is good, and if the story is entertaining. That's basically it for me. This is actually one of the reasons I'm actually more confident now that I will enjoy the game than I was a few days ago because I was expecting the weakest point of the game to be found and then hammered repeatedly on the internet and so far it looks like that's the character animations and if that's the worst part of the game then holey moley
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marshmallow creep posted:Because people asked for it to be there multiple times. Yeah well those people are in denial and need to accept that Bioware is Bioware and the company that made whatever flawed game they adored in the past also made this game.
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Dexo posted:Pretty sure in Far Cry 2(Hell even 3 and 4) I used the physics engine to do a buuuuunch of fun poo poo to dick around. the Physics and world interactions were literally the only reason to play that game. I still strongly disagree that Far Cry 2 and Zelda's world interaction is even on the same level (I loved Far Cry 3 and 4, didn't care for 2...full disclosure). But that's ok! As long as we're enjoying a dope rear end game, who cares.
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I just liked luring ornery elephants into military bases and watching the results.
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Fojar38 posted:This is actually one of the reasons I'm actually more confident now that I will enjoy the game than I was a few days ago because I was expecting the weakest point of the game to be found and then hammered repeatedly on the internet and so far it looks like that's the character animations and if that's the worst part of the game then holey moley The character animations are the most visible problem with the game, but hardly the worst imo.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:When he says 'sort of' he means it's a blatant handwave. They evolved in stasis somehow so now they aren't a dying race anymore. Krogan evolving to shake off the genophage is why Mordin had to modify it in the first place so it's not totally out of nowhere, though Mordin's modification was to prevent this exact thing from happening. So it comes down to the timeline again - if the arks left before Mordin's modifications this would kind of make sense.
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Random rear end in a top hat posted:The character animations are the most visible problem with the game, but hardly the worst imo.
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Fojar38 posted:cassandra is arguably the best romance scenario bioware has ever made Was cassandra the tank? That game was a while ago.
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Varam posted:Yeah well those people are in denial and need to accept that Bioware is Bioware and the company that made whatever flawed game they adored in the past also made this game. The people make the place. And the people that made Bioware what it was are off to the following companies, which shouldn't shock anyone: Guerilla Games Naughty Dog Hell, Mac Walters pissed everyone off so much people like Cameron Harris (One hell of an editor/writer) left the entire industry as a result of her disgust with this project. Also, I am seeing 5 years development time a lot in this thread. Just so you know, this project went through two stop starts with the last one being mid 2014. After a complete reset in preproduction, this thing had about 25 months of actual development. Which explains a lot.
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Nichael posted:I always find Reddit's dumb poo poo funny (spoilers for romance options): lol. i liked cassandra. she sorta had layers and was loyal and cool and you could soften or change her opinions on stuff. Nichael posted:She's awesome and certain elements of video game nerds reject her completely (along with Aveline in DA2 for that matter) for being too "masculine" or whatever. It's like you were saying earlier in the thread, a lot of Bioware's criticism does come from people with ridiculous politics, which actually makes it difficult to discern real critiques from dumb ones. I'm interested in how Andromeda plays, if the characters are interesting, if the dialogue is good, and if the story is entertaining. That's basically it for me. this. cassandra is cool and she reminds me of my gf personality wise. and while bioware can be ham handed with their politics and messaging(and some of them can be retarded and embarrassing on twitter) they usually mean well. anyway ventra reminds me of a softer cassandra mixed with garrus, so i will probably go with her.
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Arglebargle III posted:Was cassandra the tank? That game was a while ago. She was. The only tank you couldn't kill or kick out of the party until the game was over, when you could make her pope and send her to the Super Nunnery if you were so inclined.
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Arglebargle III posted:Was cassandra the tank? That game was a while ago. Cassandra is the everything. Her warrior specialization is decidedly overpowered. Also, I'm not sure why redditors would be surprised that Cora's straight. Except for KOTOR, the tough badass warrior woman in a Bioware game is always straight and usually (not always - DA2) a love interest. It's the very soft, traditionally feminine ladies who are almost invariably bi or gay.
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My Shepard's balls were the bluest.
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I'm confused as to why even after a mod closed and set out new rules for this Mass Effect thread, there's one guy continuing to argue with people about Zelda.
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Utnayan posted:The people make the place. And the people that made Bioware what it was are off to the following companies, which shouldn't shock anyone: I think the general design philosophies of Bioware persist through employee turnover but I've only played Dragon Age and Mass Effect, none of the games before that.
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Brosnan posted:I'm confused as to why even after a mod closed and set out new rules for this Mass Effect thread, there's one guy continuing to argue with people about Zelda. You are right. Please add this to the OP and let's get this thread back on track. quote:Creative Director Mac Walters revealed in the latest issue of the Official Xbox Magazine (via Daily Star) that the character animation quality is at an “all-time high” for the studio because it’s all about “expressiveness, emotion and a connection with the player.”
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Randarkman posted:My Shepard's balls were the bluest. So you romanced Liara then?
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What's the story behind this?
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Alright fine I'm done, I'm done. I get the message. Though after that discussion I feel significantly more positive! Hopefully Andromeda isn't as bad as initial impressions make it out to be!
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