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VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Utnayan posted:

You never bought a 3DS or Vita? (I can understand not having a Vita, I bought one and regret it) but these games are perfect on 3DS and have been out for a while (Save Stardew Valley)

I have both a 3DS and a Vita.
Isaac is bad on both of them. On the 3DS it breaks and is all slow. And on the Vita Nicalis are incompetent mooks who won't port the patches or expansions across.

Plus, while the Vita is amazing to use and genuinely a better bit of tech than the 3DS, it didn't have nearly the same level of support.

I feel like the switch is a merging of the 3DS and Vita.

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Bombadilillo
Feb 28, 2009

The dock really fucks a case or nerfing it.

an actual dog posted:

The switch's screen is fantastic. You can get higher resolution screens but that would be pretty pointless considering the power and battery life limits of the platform, but by every other metric (contrast levels, color accuracy, lack of ghosting) the screen is top of it's class.

I can understand having trouble with the size though, and I think Zelda's small type sizes look odd at first glance. I did get used to them tho.

This is right. Its not using the screen to its 1080p potential out the gate due to realities of the battery and graphics card. So there's little point to a 4k screen on the thing.

Zelda has some weird washout and I'm not sure its not a twist on the fog of days gone by to mess with draw diatance. But. Fast rmx and other games are vibrant and crisp.

Its a good screen for what the hardware is rocking.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Policenaut posted:

Consoles don't do price cuts so soon unless they're drastically failing like the Xbox One did, so unless Switch catastrophically tanks somehow then I'd expect to see more stuff along the lines of PS4's added value bundles. So you'd have a Switch at the same retail value as it did at launch but I dunno you get a copy of Breath of the Wild or Super Mario Odyssey with it.

The argument I am making is that Nintendo announced a double down on their switch production. So with an oversupply, with a drought of content as the system picks up speed and lack of most all services on the device for the next 5-6 months, they will be over supplied and the price will drop automatically.

Simple economics. Unless the counter argument is that somehow Nintendo is going to sell all of these units due to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart. And that's assanine.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


I've had the same problem with every controller barring the SNES, my hands just aren't comfortable rating on the shoulder buttons. I keep my fingers behind the switch or pro controller or dual shock except for my index fingers which are usually on the triggers. If I need to use the R and L buttons I just move my fingers up. Thankfully in the games I'm playing so far those buttons aren't used too often, and are toggles usually.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
2 weeks later and I still really like my Switch. Haven't finished BotW yet and every time I feel like I need a change of pace I've had Treasure Trove and Blaster Master 0 to enjoy. Blaster Master 0 is really good and fun. The weapon upgrade system for the top down sections makes me try to play carefully instead of just damage boosting through everything, and the different weapons feel worth trying so even if I do lose a good weapon it's easy to pick one of the lower level ones for whatever situation.

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

VideoGames posted:

I feel like the switch is a merging of the 3DS and Vita.

This is what I was hoping for. If I happen upon one while I'm out and about I'll probably pick it up. Not losing my poo poo over Zelda, but I planned to get one down the line eventually so I may as well.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Bombadilillo posted:

This is right. Its not using the screen to its 1080p

It's a native 720p screen.

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

Utnayan posted:

The argument I am making is that Nintendo announced a double down on their switch production. So with an oversupply, with a drought of content as the system picks up speed and lack of most all services on the device for the next 5-6 months, they will be over supplied and the price will drop automatically.

Simple economics. Unless the counter argument is that somehow Nintendo is going to sell all of these units due to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart. And that's assanine.

They'll sit on the shelves at their current price until more software comes out and sales pick back up. They're not going to drop the price within the first year.

VideoGames
Aug 18, 2003

Utnayan posted:

The argument I am making is that Nintendo announced a double down on their switch production. So with an oversupply, with a drought of content as the system picks up speed and lack of most all services on the device for the next 5-6 months, they will be over supplied and the price will drop automatically.

Simple economics. Unless the counter argument is that somehow Nintendo is going to sell all of these units due to Splatoon 2 and Mario Kart. And that's assanine.

Please stop these crazy predictions and let history play out.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Meridian posted:

This is what I was hoping for. If I happen upon one while I'm out and about I'll probably pick it up. Not losing my poo poo over Zelda, but I planned to get one down the line eventually so I may as well.

Zelda is absolutely awesome. (Playing on my Wii U with a Pro Controller however)

Between that and Horizon Zero Dawn it has been a fantastic start for this year in gaming.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Utnayan posted:

I have no idea what the Scalper units were. But doubling their production runs based off initial launch with a good amount (Unknown amount but still a solid amount) going to scalpers with a limited launch line up for the next 9 months, an alpha online service, np apps, and no VC, is setting them up for the same debacle that happened with the Wii U, and the original 3DS. Oversupply will force a drop in pricing as they overestimate demand. (They do this continually)

There is quite literally no way the Switch sells 20 million units in it's first year. They will be lucky to hit 30 million in it's life cycle.

I don't disagree with you on any of these points other than a price drop happening anytime soon. Doubling production based off a launch doesn't seem like a good idea.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Videogame Nostradamus up in here

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

Utnayan posted:

Zelda is absolutely awesome. (Playing on my Wii U with a Pro Controller however)

Between that and Horizon Zero Dawn it has been a fantastic start for this year in gaming.

Horizon turned out to be cool? I haven't followed it at all.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Meridian posted:

Horizon turned out to be cool? I haven't followed it at all.

Horizon is a fantastic game. And looks incredible to boot.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Utnayan posted:

The argument I am making is that Nintendo announced a double down on their switch production. So with an oversupply, with a drought of content as the system picks up speed and lack of most all services on the device for the next 5-6 months, they will be over supplied and the price will drop automatically.

That's assuming they are not cool with just storing them and shipping to vendors as necessary. They may have increased their order due to savings opportunity at whichever production facilities arising for whatever reason and be in a position where overproducing, storing, and shipping later is cheaper than producing and shipping at a slower rate.

This drought of content is a drought of content you personally are interested in, your particular tastes don't necessarily reflect those of the market(and Nintendo's market is not the same audience as your typical game market). For a large swath of people this is the first gaming machine Nintendo has produced since 2006.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

Utnayan posted:

This is not even close to true with Netflix's gains in Original content. Netflix won an oscar this year, and Amazon studios took 3. That is not even mentioning fantastic shows on Netflix such as Stranger Things, House of Cards, Orange is the new Black, and new Netflix Original Movies.

https://moviepilot.com/p/netflix-originals-2017-new-returning-guide-rumored-confirmed/4143771

Also, I highly recommend Black Mirror if you liked the old Black and White Twilight Zones.

And what about the increasing numbers of throwaway or mediocre to bad shows that fill space previously occupied by desirable films and shows no longer on the App? And what of the fact that you can binge the better shows in a month and then cancel your app?

AMC had three quality programs at one point and wasn't essential. HBO isn't essential and it has even more. Amazon isn't essential and their collection is much larger and it has its own programs too. Netflix is just becoming a higher quality than average cable television network.

Shammypants fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Mar 17, 2017

Cerepol
Dec 2, 2011


Meridian posted:

Horizon turned out to be cool? I haven't followed it at all.

Horizon is quite good in fact. If you're thinking of that infamous brom scene it is in no way representative of really any other dialogue.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Horizon sold better than Uncharted 4.

Norns
Nov 21, 2011

Senior Shitposting Strategist

Phantasium posted:

Horizon sold better than Uncharted 4.

Makes sense. It's a better game

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Phantasium posted:

Horizon sold better than Uncharted 4.

No, it was a little below it (by like 0.1 mil) according to ZhugeEX. It was the fastest selling original franchise on PS4 though.

Theotus
Nov 8, 2014

Norns posted:

Makes sense. It's a better game

*sharp inhale*

Back to Zelda chat, has there been any word on potential performance patches on the Switch? From what I was seeing it didn't look awful, I'm just wondering if switch games will be able to be optimized after release.

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

enojy posted:

My 3DS is effectively dead since the Switch came out.

Let me tell you about the upcoming Fire Emblem game, and

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Meridian posted:

Horizon turned out to be cool? I haven't followed it at all.

Yeah it was absolutely fantastic. Story, dialogue, character development was top notch, which actually surprised me I didn't think I was going to get that involved with the story. The world building was just as fantastic, with a great mystery behind "What happened to earth...." and without spoiling it, there are these areas called Vantages where you get to see glimpses of where you are in relation to what the Earth "Used" to be. The first one I went to I was thinking... "Holy poo poo.... I am in ___________!!!!"

The combat and action/fighting with the machines and the variables of ways to take them down is a blast and all the different ways to plan for those fights.

Sorry don't want to inject more of this since it's a Nintendo Switch thread, but if you have a PS4 definitely check it out.

Zelda is just as amazingly fun though obviously.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

parallelodad posted:

No, it was a little below it (by like 0.1 mil) according to ZhugeEX. It was the fastest selling original franchise on PS4 though.

Ah, okay, I saw that it sold better in like the first two days than Uncharted did in a week (or some comparison like that) and assumed it kept the momentum.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

Meridian posted:

*sharp inhale*

Back to Zelda chat, has there been any word on potential performance patches on the Switch? From what I was seeing it didn't look awful, I'm just wondering if switch games will be able to be optimized after release.

not for zelda explicitly, but i've heard of upcoming firmware patches to deal with (apparently) a GPU bug that makes it chug sometimes and the wifi-searching-makes-your-framerate-drop problem

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
I am sad the new Fire Emblem is coming to 3ds and not Switch. Just go all in on it nintendo, drat.

Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

Kashuno posted:

I am sad the new Fire Emblem is coming to 3ds and not Switch. Just go all in on it nintendo, drat.

There's one coming in 2018.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Don't worry, you'll get a new one next year. Kind of surprised they didn't do some kind of quicky cash-in Awakening/Fates port or something though.

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zm0FvEn5CU

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


sonic

he can really move

sonic

he has attitude

sonic

he is the fastest thing alive

ColonelJohnMatrix
Jun 24, 2006

Because all fucking hell is going to break loose

It is dumb to discuss Moriarity bad opinions, but work is slow today so gently caress it. He is correct in that certain Nintendo games do "get a pass", with the evidence of Skyward Sword and to a lesser extent Twilight Princess being a good exhibit A and B. Problem is, in typical blowhard fashion, he kills his case when he decries that BOTW is extremely overrated after spending a few minutes in the tutorial and then doubling down by going further and alluding to Splatoon being trash is nuts. Had Splatoon been a PS4 game it would've been insanely big. It was still big on Wii U, which is saying something. Even when the guy is making a point that has some validity, he has to go and be stupid about it. Also, it's not like Nintendo is the only developer where these things happen. Looking at you Bioshock Infinite (just off the top of my head).

Off-topic- I want Rocket League for Switch so bad.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Utnayan posted:

I have no idea what the Scalper units were. But doubling their production runs based off initial launch with a good amount (Unknown amount but still a solid amount) going to scalpers with a limited launch line up for the next 9 months, an alpha online service, np apps, and no VC, is setting them up for the same debacle that happened with the Wii U, and the original 3DS. Oversupply will force a drop in pricing as they overestimate demand. (They do this continually)

There is quite literally no way the Switch sells 20 million units in it's first year. They will be lucky to hit 30 million in it's life cycle.

They have a lot more information about the market and sales than you do, I'm pretty sure the extremely conservative Japanese company didn't make a billion dollar decision based on vgchartz data.

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer
that...looks good?

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Sonic Forces is clearly just a new Sonic game in the same style of Generations and Generations was good so fingers crossed I guess.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

Tender Bender posted:

They have a lot more information about the market and sales than you do, I'm pretty sure the extremely conservative Japanese company didn't make a billion dollar decision based on vgchartz data.

Well, they have made some pretty poor decisions in the past. So I think it is reasonable to question what they are doing.

Utnayan
Sep 26, 2002
PROUD MEMBER OF THE RAPIST DEFENSE BRIGADE! DO NOT BE MEAN TO RAPISTS, OR I WILL VOTE FOR THEM WITH EVER INCREASING VIGOR!

ColonelJohnMatrix posted:



Off-topic- I want Rocket League for Switch so bad.

Ok if that happened with Cross play functionality across platforms, I may even consider getting a switch for the portablility and playing rocket league on the go.

(I am severely addicted to that game)

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Utnayan posted:

Well, they have made some pretty poor decisions in the past. So I think it is reasonable to question what they are doing.

That's fair, but I don't think it's reasonable to just claim that most of the sold out run is scalpers with no evidence.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Utnayan posted:

Ok if that happened with Cross play functionality across platforms, I may even consider getting a switch for the portablility and playing rocket league on the go.

(I am severely addicted to that game)

You would be playing over a terrible tethered connection if you were on the go and be making other people's experiences worse. Sounds like your typical day.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

I called my local GameStop recently and the guy said that there were people that show up everyday to see if a switch came in their daily shipment. To suggest there is no demand and it's just scalper derived sales is insane. People want this and they will want it more when Xbox and PlayStation bore everyone at E3 and even more still once Mario etc comes out.

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Phantasium
Dec 27, 2012

I scalped my Switch, to myself, to play myself, it was great.

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