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80s James Hetfield posted:Sure they do, they play EDH more than competitive Modern/Legacy. Then if they want to play fetches in an unofficial format they should proxy them?  At least they only need the one copy.Besides, EDH games drag on for loving years as it is.
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Hell, there are plenty of casual folks wanting to get into modern. I hope this set helps them!
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ShaneB posted:Meh, if I wanted to move em I would have. My main hope is that my FS Goyfs will retain slightly more value than all the new art/frame stuff. I legit did want them! I just ending up spending way more money on that trip than I intended to, then decided that what I should do in a year with a new Nintendo console and Masters set was to set a monthly gaming budget for myself so RIP. Anyway, who all is drafting this over the weekend?
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The Shortest Path posted:Someone selling a HP abrupt decay on TCGPlayer. How does that already exist? Did he spill coke on it? Some sellers have to be extra cautious on rating cards even pack fresh because autistic magic players are going to be poo poo heads. I don't mind it though because I don't buy old money cards unless they are hp or damaged these days and laugh at the cost savings. sit on my Facebook posted:Yeah that's crazy. Actually prices across the board are pretty much flattened, comparatively, and the first boxes are just getting cracked... It was the easiest money WOTC has made in a long time too. Little chance the folks in suits aren't saying "Why don't we do things like this more often?". They are selling boxes with less packs in them for double msrp. Its a loving money fountain. (You see, if you sneak cards like into standard it might also have this effect on a smaller scale) Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:58 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Mar 17, 2017 17:48
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modern is now affordable, as long as you don't need hierarchs, karns, opals, engineered explosives, fulminators, mishra's bauble, etc. etc.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:07
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little munchkin posted:modern is now affordable, as long as you don't need hierarchs, karns, opals, engineered explosives, fulminators, mishra's bauble, etc. etc. Fetches are probably more important to being able to play modern than any of those, so I am happy at least.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:11
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little munchkin posted:modern is now affordable, as long as you don't need hierarchs, karns, opals, engineered explosives, fulminators, mishra's bauble, etc. etc. Or Street Wraiths.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:16
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Sickening posted:Fetches are probably more important to being able to play modern than any of those, so I am happy at least. It's this And as Saffron Olive pointed out, Path and Inquisition are yuge for building modern on a budget.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:18
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little munchkin posted:modern is now affordable, as long as you don't need hierarchs, karns, opals, engineered explosives, fulminators, mishra's bauble, etc. etc. That reminds me, which deck(s) benefited the most from MM17? Any deck that plays those cards is probably still prohibitively expensive because they weren't reprinted.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:19
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BJPaskoff posted:That reminds me, which deck(s) benefited the most from MM17? Any deck that plays those cards is probably still prohibitively expensive because they weren't reprinted. Blue Jund?
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Mar 17, 2017 18:20
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mfcrocker posted:Hell, there are plenty of casual folks wanting to get into modern. I hope this set helps them! A lot of people who can't afford it are already playing it with Chinese counterfeits. Especially at FNM level events
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Mar 17, 2017 18:20
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ShaneB posted:Holy crap are fetch prices CRUSHED already. You can get tarns for less than half their pre-spoiler Zen price. I preordered a set of Scalding Farms for $40 each on Channel Fireball and was happy to see that coupon code HAUMPH works on pre-order, so I saved another $8.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:22
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I mean, we'd all like to see the buy-in for modern be less than a hundred bucks or whatever, but let's be real here this is a huge step forward Hierarch sucks, granted, but all those other cards are either replaceable with decent options or typically one- or two-of's
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Mar 17, 2017 18:24
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For those that have opened packs are they the same cardboard things from the last masters or are the proper packs? Because those cardboard things scratched the hell out of the cards.
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I finally put my hierarchs on ebay after digging them out and it's funny to see the number of offers I'm getting from people trying to get it at the old, tentatively-reprinted, price.
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BJPaskoff posted:That reminds me, which deck(s) benefited the most from MM17? Any deck that plays those cards is probably still prohibitively expensive because they weren't reprinted. BGx if you don't need Confidants, probably. I need two Lilis and a playset of Goyfs to finish my Junk list, and probably some number of Catacombs too if I want the mana to be better. And Damnation would be good for the SB in my area. Guess what all got reprinted! E: Fetches being reprinted also helps people get into Legacy, though I can't imagine the player who picked up ABU duals but felt that Tarn et al. were too expensive. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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BJPaskoff posted:That reminds me, which deck(s) benefited the most from MM17? Any deck that plays those cards is probably still prohibitively expensive because they weren't reprinted. The 3-color midrange/control decks probably dropped the most, but they're still absurdly expensive. For all of the hype, the majority of the expensive cards in modern did not get reprinted and will just go up.
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C-Euro posted:BGx if you don't need Confidants, probably. I need two Lilis and a playset of Goyfs to finish my Junk list, and probably some number of Catacombs too if I want the mana to be better. And Damnation would be good for the SB in my area. Guess what all got reprinted! With how many more fetches you play than duals, some decks would put roughly the same amount into each.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:31
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Bugsy posted:For those that have opened packs are they the same cardboard things from the last masters or are the proper packs? Because those cardboard things scratched the hell out of the cards. Nope they are in foil packs like other sets now.
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Mar 17, 2017 18:34
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Today is the day that facebook groups are going to start the "look at my sick pulls" from all those that folks that should have just bought singles. Whatever makes them happy though.
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Sickening posted:Today is the day that facebook groups are going to start the "look at my sick pulls" from all those that folks that should have just bought singles. Whatever makes them happy though. my favorite part of magic culture is people buying packs/boxes and bragging about making their money back, except it's imaginary tcgplayer mid dollars and not the kind of dollars that can buy you gasoline, food, beer, etc
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Also turns out that a friend attended a midnight draft last night and the person to his left dropped because they opened a tarn + foil lily and the TO was against the sane resolution. It was pack 2 as well. With the money cards and guaranteed foil in this set this is going to happen more often than it ever has.little munchkin posted:my favorite part of magic culture is people buying packs/boxes and bragging about making their money back, except it's imaginary tcgplayer mid dollars and not the kind of dollars that can buy you gasoline, food, beer, etc They don't want to hear "That isn't what you can actually sell it for though."
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Sickening posted:Today is the day that facebook groups are going to start the "look at my sick pulls" from all those that folks that should have just bought singles. Whatever makes them happy though. I always assume people think they can do the same as that guy in that one video who opened a ridiculously good MM15 box with a foil Goyf among other things. Foil fetches are especially good pulls, which are slightly easier to pull, no matter how negligible an amount.
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Sickening posted:Today is the day that facebook groups are going to start the "look at my sick pulls" from all those that folks that should have just bought singles. Whatever makes them happy though. This is the one set I don't blame people for cracking a box of. I'm not buying a box, just to be clear.
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Seems like grixis shadow is a deck that benefitted a lot from mm17, most of the money cards got reprinted and it doesn't play bauble usually.
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Sickening posted:Also turns out that a friend attended a midnight draft last night and the person to his left dropped because they opened a tarn + foil lily and the TO was against the sane resolution. It was pack 2 as well. With the money cards and guaranteed foil in this set this is going to happen more often than it ever has. Take the foil Lili and eat the 30 bucks that Tarn is going to be at in 2 weeks. Are people just broke or something? Why would you drop playing an event you stayed up to Midnight to play in just to save the cost of a dinner for two at Chili's? (Also, opening packs is fun) BJPaskoff posted:That reminds me, which deck(s) benefited the most from MM17? Any deck that plays those cards is probably still prohibitively expensive because they weren't reprinted. BGx, I'd say. Abrupt Decay, Lingering Souls, Tarmogoyf, Liliana, Path, Inquisition, Terminate (although I don't know if Jund still plays it), Scavenging Ooze. Almost every relevant card is in MM17. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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Angry Grimace posted:Take the foil Lili and eat the 30 bucks that Tarn is going to be at in 2 weeks. Are people just broke or something? Why would you drop playing an event you stayed up to Midnight to play in just to save the cost of a dinner for two at Chili's? Yes, yes they are. I haven't seen demographics research, but I'd be surprised if the average player age was over 25. Generally people 25 and under are pretty poor.
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CompeAnansi posted:Yes, yes they are. I haven't seen demographics research, but I'd be surprised if the average player age was over 25. Generally people 25 and under are pretty poor. If you're poor enough to cut bait and run from a Midnight draft you paid a minimum of $35 for you're probably poor for a reason.
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Angry Grimace posted:Take the foil Lili and eat the 30 bucks that Tarn is going to be at in 2 weeks. Are people just broke or something? Why would you drop playing an event you stayed up to Midnight to play in just to save the cost of a dinner for two at Chili's? Magic players
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Whenever I see the horde of out-of-print sealed Magic product where I play at and get told things like a sealed 2010 Deckbuilder's Toolkit is a hundred dollar bill, I always ask: "who actually buys that?" I guess people do get stuff like sealed fat packs from seven years ago, but at a rate of once per month.
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Angry Grimace posted:If you're poor enough to cut bait and run from a Midnight draft you paid a minimum of $35 for you're probably poor for a reason. Jesus christ look at this Foil Scalding Take
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All the poor magic people need to just realize that, maybe, instead of buying the latest iPhone they could just spend the money on MM17 boxes.
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Weird to accuse poor people of being poor exclusively because of pure money management and in the same breath try to advise that they let go of a card that pays for the next two drafts, almost like you don't have a real point and are a pissy baby?
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Tarmo has been heading towards the high 60's very quickly today. lily heading toward the mid 50's. Watch the inni copies of lily. It appears that there is so many copies that they are having to compete with mm3 prices just to move them. People are trying to cash out before it gets worse. Great times.
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If you are paying $40 for a draft you aren't poor full stopSickening posted:Tarmo has been heading towards the high 60's very quickly today. lily heading toward the mid 50's. I've been F5ing the MM17 Lily page most of the morning when I want to see what's happening and it's held at $60 so far and Innistrad is $75 ... unless you're seeing something I'm not?
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mandatory lesbian posted:eating at chili's is easily the most disturbing thing in that post It was the only place I could think up off the top of my head that cost like $30 for two people (although I probably shouldn't have assumed Magic players would have a second person to go with) that they have in most places. Death Bot posted:Weird to accuse poor people of being poor exclusively because of pure money management and in the same breath try to advise that they let go of a card that pays for the next two drafts, almost like you don't have a real point and are a pissy baby? First off, it's not weird in any way, you just figured that calling someone a "pissy baby" was a hot take everyone needed to read (thanks for that, I suppose). Second of all, the entire goddamn point of the post which everyone but you got is that people who play in midnight Modern Masters drafts with $10 packs + entry aren't loving poor, you chowderhead. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Mar 17, 2017 |
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ShaneB posted:If you are paying $40 for a draft you aren't poor full stop First, tcg mid or market price is meaningless right now. Prices are changing too fast for this to be useful.  Of all the cards reprinted this one of the cards that has the closest spread between it and its other printing. If you just looked at n/m cards it would be farther apart but I think that is a little unfair for a tournament staple that is more than 6 years old.
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BJPaskoff posted:This is the one set I don't blame people for cracking a box of. I'm not buying a box, just to be clear. I cracked a box because cracking packs is my heroin, and this set is like loving pure cut black tar in my eyeballs. 
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