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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
| Total: | 1326 votes | ||
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They should wish Pikkon back. 
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Mar 19, 2017 15:48
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So It Goes posted:I know the idea is "universal balance" or whatever, but the show really glosses over how hosed up it is for a god's sole purpose to be killing/murdering entire civilizations of sentient beings. Beerus is treated fairly comical but it's a pretty messed up job he holds. Like, Zeno threats to erase universes and the show recognizes that as bad, but Beerus does the same thing on a smaller scale. Beerus also sucks at his job. Zzulu posted:who says its bad Nah, if they thought it was okay the way Beerus goes about it then U7's mortal level would be higher. He offs worlds for slights and for failing to live up to his culinary standards instead of preventing civilization destroying tyrants and god killing monsters from running amok.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:02
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So It Goes posted:I know the idea is "universal balance" or whatever, but the show really glosses over how hosed up it is for a god's sole purpose to be killing/murdering entire civilizations of sentient beings. Beerus is treated fairly comical but it's a pretty messed up job he holds. Like, Zeno threats to erase universes and the show recognizes that as bad, but Beerus does the same thing on a smaller scale. In theory, if the universes and life itself is to be managed correctly, a God of Destruction doesn't have to be reckless, lazy or a bad guy. They can just go in and destroy dead worlds that life cannot use or have outlived themselves, as inevitable and as free of malice as a sun going super nova. This lets the Kais go to work cultivating and growing new life to replace what has passed to make sure Life doesn't grow too out of balance like cancer. If both the GoD and the Supreme Kai do their respective jobs and have an actual functioning relationship between themselves and the greater spiritual bureaucracy of the lesser kais and their respected world of the spirits, its just a position that's just the transference of matter and life in a cute little dragon ball kind of ecosystem. If the Gods actually care to do their job right. However, Beerus is a petty, cruel and lazy GoD that destroys without the purpose that his role needs him to maintain and thus part of the reason why 7 is a shitshow as far as Zeno is concerned (possibly). The other side of this is Shin, the last of the Supreme Kais of 7, a moron that probably doesn't even know how to tie his shoes in a godly manner if you believe Elder Kai is any better when he was in charge and not just as useless, who's management style is to dread Beerus and to sit in the background and let life sort itself out, likely because he doesn't actually know how to do anything. The scary thing about 7 isn't just that there is a God of Destroying, but that the supreme gods in charge of their universe are incompetent. Crabtree fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Mar 19, 2017 17:05
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Give Shin a break. The guy had everyone who was supposed to teach him this poo poo die, his mentors are a guy who knows about as much as he does and an incompetent pervert. The poor guy has done the best he can with terrible situations.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:08
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Am I the only one who thinks that Goku knows something that the audience doesn't know? I think his blasé attitude about the death and destruction of trillions may be because his good friend(s) Zeno let him in on a little secret or two. Gohan's enjoyment of the situation is because he's evil.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:10
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TFRazorsaw posted:Give Shin a break. The guy had everyone who was supposed to teach him this poo poo die, his mentors are a guy who knows about as much as he does and an incompetent pervert. The poor guy has done the best he can with terrible situations. I don't give slack to Gods. You have eons to learn as you go and you do - what exactly? poo poo, didn't Elder Kai prove that they can die and get halos or that there were previous generations of Supreme Kais before Shin? Can't he just go talk to the dead ones to guide him?
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Mar 19, 2017 17:10
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If Goku isn't super chill about this because he's secretly been evil the whole time, guys, it's probably because he expects to use the Super Dragon Balls to cheat their deaths somehow.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:12
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Crabtree posted:I don't give slack to Gods. You have eons to learn as you go and you do - what exactly? poo poo, didn't Elder Kai prove that they can die and get halos or that there were previous generations of Supreme Kais before Shin? Can't he just go talk to the dead ones to guide him? I'm pretty sure Buu either absorbed or ate them. He did one at least. No coming back from the Buu Abyss. The Buubyss.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:14
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Shibby0709 posted:Am I the only one who thinks that Goku knows something that the audience doesn't know? I think his blasé attitude about the death and destruction of trillions may be because his good friend(s) Zeno let him in on a little secret or two. He's acting a LOT like he did before the Cell Games. There he knew that it didn't matter what Cell was up to or that he wasn't up to snuff- Gohan had this. Here I guess he really actually is relying on Gohan again. loving Christ
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Mar 19, 2017 17:16
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TFRazorsaw posted:I'm pretty sure Buu either absorbed or ate them. He did one at least. No, I mean the ones that preceded Elder Kai or served in his time. Do their souls or whatever just disappear or can he talk to them if he checks up on Supreme King Yama or searches around Other World?
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Mar 19, 2017 17:17
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There's never been any indication those exist, have there?
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Mar 19, 2017 17:21
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this whole tournament is a ploy on goku's part to finally make gohan like fighting dudes
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Mar 19, 2017 17:22
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TFRazorsaw posted:There's never been any indication those exist, have there? Well then how are there elder supreme kais if they don't eventually age and die and get replaced by the next generation of Kais besides the whole fusion with a witch bit? Am I just getting lost in mixed translations and half remembering things?
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Mar 19, 2017 17:28
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aegof posted:If Goku isn't super chill about this because he's secretly been evil the whole time, guys, it's probably because he expects to use the Super Dragon Balls to cheat their deaths somehow. Maybe he's got some new God-killing transformation and he wants to test it out by pissing off literally everybody
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Mar 19, 2017 17:29
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Toppo will crush evil with his beer gut of Justice.RBX posted:They should wish Pikkon back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHeyZmeji0o&t=107s lol, everybody dunks on King Cold. Jedah fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Mar 19, 2017 17:30
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Crabtree posted:No, I mean the ones that preceded Elder Kai or served in his time. Do their souls or whatever just disappear or can he talk to them if he checks up on Supreme King Yama or searches around Other World? As we have seen from Gowasu, old Kais become senile and give terrible advice.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:30
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Elder Kai is only old because he merged with a witch. I'm not saying that it isn't possible, I'm saying I'm not necessarily sure an entire generation of these guys have died and been replaced. They live a very long time. There can be younger and older ones but it's unclear if they're born from that spirit tree thing at different times and simply join the ones already alive. We know from supplementary materials there's a whole race of these beings who don't necessarily become gods.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:32
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Jedah posted:Toppo will crush evil with his beer gut of Justice. he was from a filler arc and not in the manga at all iirc same with grand kai
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Mar 19, 2017 17:36
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Rutibex posted:As we have seen from Gowasu, old Kais become senile and give terrible advice. Probably, but they're there. And now in Super, if this whole tournament thing didn't start, he could have just asked other universes. They probably wouldn't have helped but it is an option in hindsight. TFRazorsaw posted:Elder Kai is only old because he merged with a witch. Yeah, but I also thought that he had like only a millinea left to live when he transferred his life to Goku and woke up with a halo so Goku could go to fight Buu. That even they die and get replaced but that death isn't such a serious thing to them outside of being devoured by Buu. Or was that just anime fluff? But now that I think about it, could Shin just ask lesser kais or his race for help too? If he's ignorant of the rules, who cares if he tries to seek real assistance? He doesn't know protocol to care.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:46
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RBX posted:They should wish Pikkon back. Pikkon is such bullshit. If the Supreme kai had to die just to prevent buu from being awoken why not just tap the guy who fought goku to a standstill to do your drat dirty work?
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Mar 19, 2017 17:48
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Crabtree posted:But now that I think about it, could Shin just ask lesser kais or his race for help too? If he's ignorant of the rules, who cares if he tries to seek real assistance? He doesn't know protocol to care. He literally didn't know that one of the four gods overseeing a quadrant of his universe had gotten exploded. Or if he did he didn't care to check up on the details. Shin is just bad at his job, rookie or not.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:48
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Shin should get better at fighting. Look at how good Zamasu got. He must know how to fight since he was able to place in the world tournament. Speaking of which, watching the Kai episodes on Toonami, and I forgot how goofy he looks when he first shows up.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:51
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Pikkon is from an anime filler arc between Buu and Cell
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Mar 19, 2017 17:54
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Pureauthor posted:He literally didn't know that one of the four gods overseeing a quadrant of his universe had gotten exploded. Or if he did he didn't care to check up on the details. So we're right back to my point that shin just milks his ignorance as an excuse to be lazy. Rirse posted:Shin should get better at fighting. Look at how good Zamasu got. He must know how to fight since he was able to place in the world tournament. You'd think with the whole near death experience of Buu that he'd actually try to seek strength.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:55
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I thought Pikkon was part of the buu saga
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Mar 19, 2017 17:56
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I thought Pikkon was part of the buu saga He was part of the filler afterlife tournament. The Kai airing completely skipped over that entire arc.
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Mar 19, 2017 17:58
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Rirse posted:He was part of the filler afterlife tournament. The Kai airing completely skipped over that entire arc. I must have last watched that arc when it premiered on toonami. That's a long time ago... 
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Mar 19, 2017 18:00
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I remember now. That was when the other kais showed up
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Mar 19, 2017 18:02
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Matoi Ryuko posted:I thought Pikkon was part of the buu saga I think pikkon and the other filler arc afterlife mobs were in the filler afterlife stuff during the buu saga, right before buu comes along and threatens to double kill them
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Mar 19, 2017 18:02
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Pikkon and co have also been dead for like thousands of years(if not longer), right? so wishing them back is probably outside of shenron's wheelhouse
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Mar 19, 2017 18:22
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They would do better to wish their tails back. Then they could multiply their power by 10x.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:28
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Oh yeah Pikkon and the swole Hercules guy and some others do show up when Kid Buu is there before Vegeta and Goku attract his attention, that slipped my mind entirely! Featuring the only appropriate filler no-sell of the Destructo Disc
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Mar 19, 2017 18:55
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They should make Mirai Trunks the Supreme Kai. That would solve a lot of problems. That's a guy who gets things done.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:56
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Rutibex posted:They would do better to wish their tails back. Then they could multiply their power by 10x. Oozar-blue?
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Mar 19, 2017 18:57
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Well they'd just go SSJ4.
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Mar 19, 2017 18:58
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Rirse posted:He was part of the filler afterlife tournament. The Kai airing completely skipped over that entire arc. The end of the Cell arc actually showed a very brief montage of that tournament, which was pretty cool of them to include at all.
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Mar 19, 2017 19:03
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Manatee Cannon posted:this whole tournament is a ploy on goku's part to finally make gohan like fighting dudes This would be peak Goku
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Mar 19, 2017 21:03
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Goku probably had a conversation with Zen'O along the lines of "Yo, I can show you really rad fights, but you have to threaten the other Universes with being erased to make sure they'll go all out against me" I'd love it if this backfires and Zen'O decides to really erase the Universe and now Goku has to fight them
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Mar 19, 2017 21:09
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why didnt goku go super saiyan blue right off the bat he knew old guy was stronger than fox
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Mar 19, 2017 21:11
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Goku vastly prefers even fights over one-sided destruction, so he always picks the form that puts him on equal standing with his opponent and adjusts from there.
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