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eonwe posted:witcher 3 is one of the greatest games ever made It's barely one of the greatest games of May 2015 bitch!!
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eonwe posted:witcher 3 is one of the greatest games ever made No, it is really not.
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Mar 20, 2017 00:55
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Cavendish posted:No, it is really not. ya it is
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Mar 20, 2017 00:55
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It's no Mass Effect: Andromeda.
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Mar 20, 2017 00:55
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one of the big narrative problems with witcher 3 is that after the first act (which is great) and before the last act (which is by the numbers) much of the narrative arc is occupied with figuring something out that already happened. not something intrinsically complicated. just finding people who can tell you a fairly brief and straightforward story of ciri teleporting around. all this to rescue ciri from the fairly straightforward plot prison that prevents her from accomplishing her basic hero quest. it almost operates on a weird meta level. instead of you playing the hero in your own story you play the guy trying to find and bring the hero and the story together -- a hero and a story both ultimately destined to move away from him/you. the interesting stuff is mostly in the moment to moment character interactions and the meta stuff around the edges of this -- which yes is ultimately about geralt's recognition of his own irrelevance on some level. if you bottom out the ciri relationship it becomes a story of his almost complete alienation from humanity.
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Mar 20, 2017 00:56
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exquisite tea posted:It's no Mass Effect: Andromeda. *laughs stiffly while my eyes bulge out of my head*
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Mar 20, 2017 00:56
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witcher 3 was well written and enjoyable to play and i liked the characters. a good game. me:a has a chance to be good still lets hope and pray
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Mar 20, 2017 01:00
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BrianWilly posted:The whole you being Pathfinder instead of Cora thing is genuinely kinda hosed up. Now, okay, it's one thing if the line of succession wasn't all that solid and Cora was more like, "Well, I'm most likely and qualified to have to step in if Alec bites it...but the fact is that I don't know for sure if Alec will pick me and nothing is set in stone here." But she (and everyone else) seems genuinely taken aback that Ryder Sr. could have had anyone other than Cora in mind for the position at all, so it's basically that he led her on with false assurances and gave everyone the impression that he would honor the chain of command, but then just went "haha bitch you thought" at the last second. I get the impression from the trial that the game's going to reveal some ~secrets~ behind the whole trip to Andromeda that Alec wanted to keep within the family. He was a key person behind the planning and everything else, he might know of some ulterior motive or secret plans and hopes his kids would carry it on without him. It's just a guess, but with SAM and the memory triggers and everything else there's enough hints that he wasn't just snubbing Cora. It's entirely possible he just saw his kid dying and decided in the heat of the moment to sacrifice themselves, it wasn't exactly an orderly succession. Kind of just makes it all the dumber that a commander would have their own kids on their dangerous space mission team when tens of thousands of lives are riding on them fulfilling a very important job, but then again the whole Initiative is a private endeavour of a clique of eccentric egomaniacs so maybe that's not that surprising. Maybe Ryder was just enough of a narcissist to want a Ryder to be in charge while discovering and settling a new galaxy.
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Mar 20, 2017 00:59
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Zane posted:one of the big narrative problems with witcher 3 is that after the first act (which is great) and before the last act (which is by the numbers) much of the narrative arc is occupied with figuring something out that already happened. not something intrinsically complicated. just finding people who can tell you a fairly brief and straightforward story of ciri teleporting around. all this to rescue ciri from the fairly straightforward plot prison that prevents her from accomplishing her basic hero quest. it almost operates on a weird meta level. instead of you playing the hero in your own story you play the guy trying to find and bring the hero and the story together -- a hero and a story both destined to ultimately move away from him/you. the interesting stuff is mostly in the moment to moment character interactions and the meta stuff around the edges of this -- which yes is ultimately about geralt's recognition of his own irrelevance on some level. if you bottom out the ciri relationship it becomes a story of his almost complete alienation from humanity. if you bottom it out, geralt, caught up in guilt and depression, ends up basically committing suicide by monster
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Mar 20, 2017 01:00
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The whole "now you're the pathfinder since I'm about to die and you need the help to survive" is pretty understandable and it makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Ryder not immediately relinquishing the title (and SAM) after waking up. Everyone is just "Oh well, if the boss said so before dying  "
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Mar 20, 2017 01:01
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There's probably some lines about how SAM is too entwined in Ryder's brain to remove safely and you can't be a pathfinder without Sam, so
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Mar 20, 2017 01:03
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were people able to get through the beginning of the game on the hardest difficulty level? makes me think there has to be another new game plus type option in this, cause insanity seems impossible starting fresh. i mean i haven't mastered this brand new game yet but still
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Mar 20, 2017 01:04
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:The Witcher is fun because you get to run around hitting poo poo with your sword and being the bastard child of Sly Stallone and an anime schoolgirl. It's good entertainment, but don't pretend it's Flannery O'Connor. More brutal self-owns in this thread.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:06
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There's that bit where Dad's wrecking the poo poo out of the Kett base and everyone's like "oh poo poo, he's super good at this" that establishes being hooked up to SAM directly makes you a great fighter, which helps explain why the relatively inexperienced Ryder can step into the role (never mind that you could kill Kett easily enough beforehand). It was actually kind of a funny sequence, I found myself feeling like I was the companion character tagging along behind the PC who was leading the way and interacting with environment objects like the door control.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:06
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Actual hitting things with sword is probably the most mutually agreed upon least fun aspect of the Witcher franchise.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:06
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Dolash posted:I get the impression from the trial that the game's going to reveal some ~secrets~ behind the whole trip to Andromeda that Alec wanted to keep within the family. He was a key person behind the planning and everything else, he might know of some ulterior motive or secret plans and hopes his kids would carry it on without him. It's just a guess, but with SAM and the memory triggers and everything else there's enough hints that he wasn't just snubbing Cora. Yeah but it's doled out with a fetch quest where you have to collect like 20 literal shiny things per memory. So I'll just watch it on youtube.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:07
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2house2fly posted:There's probably some lines about how SAM is too entwined in Ryder's brain to remove safely and you can't be a pathfinder without Sam, so It's this. Removing SAM would kill Ryderkid
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Mar 20, 2017 01:09
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2house2fly posted:There's probably some lines about how SAM is too entwined in Ryder's brain to remove safely and you can't be a pathfinder without Sam, so I think that's implied but no one else knows about SAM's super powers so even if Ryder knows he can't get out of the job, no one else does. But everyone just rolls over.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:09
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can i come back to the first planet you land on later?
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Mar 20, 2017 01:09
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Fojar38 posted:the endless sucking off of the witcher in this thread is actually making me want to play it even less out of primal spite That was me for like a whole year, goons wouldn't shut up about it in every thread and it actively made me not want to play it because they were so obnoxious about it. e: to be clear, I'm not referring to goons just saying "Witcher 3 is good" but rather the whole "Witcher 3 is better than whatever you like, no matter what it is"
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Mar 20, 2017 01:10
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Dolash posted:I get the impression from the trial that the game's going to reveal some ~secrets~ behind the whole trip to Andromeda that Alec wanted to keep within the family. He was a key person behind the planning and everything else, he might know of some ulterior motive or secret plans and hopes his kids would carry it on without him. It's just a guess, but with SAM and the memory triggers and everything else there's enough hints that he wasn't just snubbing Cora. Yeah, I dunno if he intended for his kid to be the next Pathfinder. The explanation given by Doctor Dorner didn't make any loving sense either given that everyone on the Pathfinder team can talk to SAM since everyone on the Pathfinder team has the implant. Who cares if Scott "Nepotism" Ryder has SAM-to-speech in his head, Cora is still the best leader and the most experienced in this situation.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:10
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Zane posted:one of the big narrative problems with witcher 3 is that after the first act (which is great) and before the last act (which is by the numbers) much of the narrative arc is occupied with figuring something out that already happened. not something intrinsically complicated. just finding people who can tell you a fairly brief and straightforward story of ciri teleporting around. all this to rescue ciri from the fairly straightforward plot prison that prevents her from accomplishing her basic hero quest. it almost operates on a weird meta level. instead of you playing the hero in your own story you play the guy trying to find and bring the hero and the story together -- a hero and a story both ultimately destined to move away from him/you. the interesting stuff is mostly in the moment to moment character interactions and the meta stuff around the edges of this -- which yes is ultimately about geralt's recognition of his own irrelevance on some level. if you bottom out the ciri relationship it becomes a story of his almost complete alienation from humanity. yeah the setting and actual events of the main plot seem like bones to hang more personal stories on, whether it's geralt's experience of fatherhood or micro-stories where he does witchery stuff. which is honestly probably the way to go in a sprawling 50 hour game wherein it's borderline impossible to retain a through-line of pace. imo this is why ME2 remains the best mass effect game; the main story is kind of a mess but the game never needed it to be amazing.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:10
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if you dont want to play an excellent game because some people like it, then lol.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:11
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cams posted:can i come back to the first planet you land on later? Yeah. It's exactly like DA:I. You can do the main story enough to open up new planets and go back and forth between them the same way you would regions in DA:I.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:11
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Also where is Alec Ryder's body, and why has nobody mentioned it?
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Mar 20, 2017 01:12
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anyone else unable to download the dlc for this game in origin?
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Mar 20, 2017 01:12
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Also where is Alec Ryder's body, and why has nobody mentioned it? Reprocessed for the Soylent nutrient paste they eat on board the ark. Can't let a good few hundred thousand calories go to waste.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:13
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Funky See Funky Do posted:Yeah. It's exactly like DA:I. You can do the main story enough to open up new planets and go back and forth between them the same way you would regions in DA:I.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:13
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ill give this probably bad game another try tonight
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Mar 20, 2017 01:13
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witcher 3 is good me:a will probably be good
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Admiral Ray posted:Yeah, I dunno if he intended for his kid to be the next Pathfinder. The explanation given by Doctor Dorner didn't make any loving sense either given that everyone on the Pathfinder team can talk to SAM since everyone on the Pathfinder team has the implant. Who cares if Scott "Nepotism" Ryder has SAM-to-speech in his head, Cora is still the best leader and the most experienced in this situation. He literally said as he's dying that he always wanted and knew it was going to be you who becomes the next Pathfinder
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Mar 20, 2017 01:13
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I don't even enjoy TW3 as much as the Mass Effect trilogy, it's just a good example of how game writing has evolved over the last five years and we should hold developers who market themselves on their stories to a higher standard.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:14
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Admiral Ray posted:Yeah, I dunno if he intended for his kid to be the next Pathfinder. The explanation given by Doctor Dorner didn't make any loving sense either given that everyone on the Pathfinder team can talk to SAM since everyone on the Pathfinder team has the implant. Who cares if Scott "Nepotism" Ryder has SAM-to-speech in his head, Cora is still the best leader and the most experienced in this situation. i'm still finding it kind of weird that the 'pathfinder' title is treated with almost religious significance. maybe it's better explained in the course of the actual opening idk. guess i'll find out when i get a pc that can play morrowind at more than 15fps (not joking)
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Mar 20, 2017 01:15
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Dexo posted:He literally said as he's dying that he always wanted and knew it was going to be you who becomes the next Pathfinder all i heard was womp womp tinnitus poo poo
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Mar 20, 2017 01:15
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Dexo posted:He literally said as he's dying that he always wanted and knew it was going to be you who becomes the next Pathfinder I genuinely could not read his lips after the "breathe deep" thing, but this makes the nepotism claim stronger, not weaker.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:15
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Generic Monk posted:i'm still finding it kind of weird that the 'pathfinder' title is treated with almost religious significance. maybe it's better explained in the course of the actual opening idk. guess i'll find out when i get a pc that can play morrowind at more than 15fps (not joking) Replace pathfinder with inquisitor and be enlightened.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:17
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cams posted:just checking cause you couldn't go back to the very first place you started in DAI Oh right, you mean the tutorial area not Eos. It's like DA:I in that sense too. No you can't return to the cool lightning planet.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:18
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Admiral Ray posted:Yeah, I dunno if he intended for his kid to be the next Pathfinder. The explanation given by Doctor Dorner didn't make any loving sense either given that everyone on the Pathfinder team can talk to SAM since everyone on the Pathfinder team has the implant. Who cares if Scott "Nepotism" Ryder has SAM-to-speech in his head, Cora is still the best leader and the most experienced in this situation. Yeah it'd be easy enough to imagine a situation where Cora said "Look your dad may have transferred SAM to you but I'm the one with Pathfinder training, I'll take the lead and you can be computer liaison" and Kid Ryder says "that's totally fair, I'm a junior member of the team and I don't have the necessary experience or background knowledge to take this position. Just call me when you need me." But of course, then you wouldn't be in command and get to decide where the ship goes and who to run over in the rover, so for narrative simplicity's sake SAM is very important and Cora is weirdly compliant if maybe resentful.
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Mar 20, 2017 01:18
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AngryBooch posted:If only there were an option that everyone was in full hard suit and helmet all the time. Even on the Tempest and Nexus. And especially in the sex scenes. Quarians arent in this game (maybe).
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Drifter posted:I feel like we've been neglecting Hedrigall. And it looks like carrot juice to me. COME ON MAN Judy's no Leodore Lionheart or Benjamin Clawhauser  How did you find my tumblr 
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