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The Cars That Ate Sweden
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Mar 19, 2017 18:53
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TheFluff posted:no tho This is paradoxically also true. Good luck having any kind of local stores when everyone instead opts for the 40 minute drive to the nearest city and/or shopping center and its ICA Maxi to save 8% on panpizza. Gradually all the local services start disappearing as cars and internet render them out of demand and make your local håla about as attractive to live in as the middle of the Saharan dessert sending property prices into free-fall. This is the part where the local community rallies around a new store which they will commit to purchasing from or the decay then becomes permanent as everyone below the age of 45 moves to Stockholm/Malmö/Göteborg. MiddleOne fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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Mar 19, 2017 19:59
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Mar 19, 2017 20:46
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Så fint for SV da. Jeg syns også at det var på tide at de endelig bestemte seg for å signalisere hvilken stilling de har til NATO og atomvåpen. For å være ærlig høres det egentlig ut som en ganske dårlig idé å legalisere kokain. Men det er vel bare meg og dette er SV.
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Mar 19, 2017 21:16
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TheFluff posted:no tho Cars IS rural Sweden. The Volvo 740 converted to a cab with an angle grinder and racing stripes made with paint rollers is the physical manifestation of the spirit that keeps places like Lycksele alive.
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Mar 19, 2017 22:07
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Noshtane posted:Cars IS rural Sweden. there was a post in one of the scandithreads in LF about the definition of scandinavia that also involved this but since you can't search archives these days I can't be bothered to find it it was really good tho, I promise
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Mar 19, 2017 23:20
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Noshtane posted:As it is, the prospects of a pair of students with fresh exams wanting to start a family is Stockholm is poor. The Swedish construction sector is so mismanaged and completely ineffective and broken and failed that it is a subject of fascination and study in international macro economics. Our very special combination of oligopoly, harmful union actions (as opposed to normal good union action) and a legal and regulatory framework from the deepest parts of hell makes any construction in urban areas cost approximatily infinite moneys and be delayed by infinite time. Basically, we suck at building things and because politicians and the unions are short sighted special interest assholes
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Mar 20, 2017 13:05
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Unlike the other growing metropoles of the world which are having none of these difficulties thanks to the wonders of de-regulation...? Like you do get that you're just regurgitating a narrative here right? Swedish property laws are a mess but we're not exactly alone in that category, property is complicated. 
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Mar 20, 2017 13:07
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MiddleOne posted:Unlike the other growing metropoles of the world which are having none of these difficulties thanks to the wonders of de-regulation...? Like you do get that you're just regurgitating a narrative here right? Swedish property laws are a mess but we're not exactly alone in that category, property is complicated. Indeed. Well done.
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Mar 20, 2017 13:46
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Sometimes I struggle between deciding whether I hate or love this thread.
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Mar 20, 2017 13:48
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MiddleOne posted:Sometimes I struggle between deciding whether I hate or love this thread. I don't.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:11
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Mar 20, 2017 15:21
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Sweden get new retard party :-D FI kommer bland annat driva frågan om att skrota Försvaret – och att Sverige ska ha helt fri invandring. Yeah, that will work great. http://www.friatider.se/fi-vill-f-rbjuda-utvisningar-vita-svenskar-utvisas-ju-inte The news if from a site that the progressive leftis don't like but I'll take the chance that its okay.
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Mar 25, 2017 21:07
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Progressive leftists is the weirdest burn ever.
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Mar 25, 2017 21:23
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MiddleOne posted:[...] the weirdest burn ever. That pretty much sums up HH's posting history.
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Mar 25, 2017 21:42
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MiddleOne posted:Progressive leftists is the weirdest burn ever. Maybe, what do you think about FI?
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Mar 25, 2017 21:54
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I think it's funny that right-wing libertarians, who are usually all for direct democracy, really hate it when women do it.
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Mar 25, 2017 23:01
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I kinda admire the person who can be upset about Fi. They had their chance last election, didn't make it, and won't make it in the future. In all likelihood they will be even more irrelevant after next election. The pool from which Fi can gain voters is pretty small, considering they are essentially a middle class academic party.
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Mar 26, 2017 11:11
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Heinz Hynkel posted:Maybe, what do you think about FI? Don't you have a country of your own to worry about?
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Mar 26, 2017 11:30
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Svartvit posted:Don't you have a country of your own to worry about? Honestly, you can have him.
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Mar 26, 2017 12:36
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MiddleOne posted:Sometimes I struggle between deciding whether I hate or love this thread. I love this thread.
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Mar 26, 2017 13:04
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The Swedes are responsible for the Øresund bridge being built on time and on budget. We Danes hosed up the Storebælt so bad.
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Mar 26, 2017 13:11
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Demiurge4 posted:The Swedes are responsible for the Øresund bridge being built on time and on budget. We Danes hosed up the Storebælt so bad.
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Mar 26, 2017 13:15
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Dirk Pitt posted:I love this thread. Yeah, Scandinavians discussing their own politics in English isn't all that common, which is a big part of why I read this thread. And just to be clear, the next time this thread decides to quit speaking English for a while, I'll be posting in dialect. Å det tror æ nåkk ska bli spænnandes 🌞
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Mar 26, 2017 13:51
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Demiurge4 posted:The Swedes are responsible for the Øresund bridge being built on time and on budget. We Danes hosed up the Storebælt so bad. Considering the modus operandi of the Danes in agreements with Sweden seems to be to gently caress something up and then try to get Sweden to pay parts of it. See DSB, PostNord. Also the reimbursement agreement between Sweden-Denmark regarding cross-country work is hilariously lopsided in Denmarks favor. What about those ICE4?
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Mar 26, 2017 15:05
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We hardly needed the Danes to gently caress us when we had Mad Maud.
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Mar 26, 2017 15:47
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Threadkiller Dog posted:We hardly needed the Danes to gently caress us when we had Mad Maud. I think the cross-country reimbursement was something that came under Göran Persson, since it was around when the bridge was built. If we now are distributing blame. Pretending either side have been good at this is a bit too much. As for Denmark and the coming air plane tax, I am laughing the whole way to Kastrup.
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Mar 26, 2017 16:01
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When discussing state finances and the management thereof, never forget that Maud loving Olofsson, patron saint of entrepreneurs, oversaw a deal that threw away 53 billion SEK and then refused to be questioned about it. Also, that Fredrik Reinfeld signed off on the deal and then lied about it, trying to just throw Maud under the bus. It's insane how they avoided pretty much any repercussions from that poo poo.
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Mar 26, 2017 18:52
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Beeswax posted:When discussing state finances and the management thereof, never forget that Maud loving Olofsson, patron saint of entrepreneurs, oversaw a deal that threw away 53 billion SEK and then refused to be questioned about it. Also, that Fredrik Reinfeld signed off on the deal and then lied about it, trying to just throw Maud under the bus. It's insane how they avoided pretty much any repercussions from that poo poo. Well, Maud got a lot of questions about it and Lööf spent the 2014 election campaign trying to avoid answering questions about it. But Vattenfall is not a voter issue and the questions about it drowned in the 2014 election since other issues were dominating. Trying to be upset that politicians suck at business is kinda futile. In the 70s the government kept the ship building industry propped up which literally made them produce a poo poo load of boats that just ended up scrapped and then the industry died anyway.
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Mar 26, 2017 19:17
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Cardiac posted:Well, Maud got a lot of questions about it Maud flat out refused to turn up to be questioned by Konstitutionsutskottet and in the end they didn't even launch an independent investigation into the whole fiasco. She got away scot free and continues to be employed in all sorts of high prestige positions. In summary: http://ng.se/blogg/bjorn-werner/saker-man-kunde-kopt-istallet-for-nuon
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Mar 26, 2017 19:59
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Beeswax posted:When discussing state finances and the management thereof, never forget that Maud loving Olofsson, patron saint of entrepreneurs, oversaw a deal that threw away 53 billion SEK and then refused to be questioned about it. Also, that Fredrik Reinfeld signed off on the deal and then lied about it, trying to just throw Maud under the bus. It's insane how they avoided pretty much any repercussions from that poo poo. It is miopic as poo poo to look at Vattenfall as Alliansens problem. Lars Josefsson came in as VD in 2000 and set all of this Dallas capitalism in motion, and did far more material damage to the company than Nuon with his German purchases just a few years before. That 53 billion figure Rödgröna likes to hear has a lot of financial engineering baked in -- strategic write-offs are actively used to reduce personnel costs and dividend payments to the Swedish state. Nuon actually has the opportunity to continue on as a saleable company. Its gas and district heating infrastructure isn't going anywhere and, even with permanently low natural gas prices, it's fairly diversified. That German lignite they bought is on the verge of being legislated out of existence, and the reactors purchased by Vattenfall already have been. Add to that criminally exposing the company to Germany's fan death-levels of political superstition to starting a nuclear waste repository.
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Mar 27, 2017 08:34
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Svartvit posted:Don't you have a country of your own to worry about? We sure do, but we still care about you.
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Mar 27, 2017 17:02
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Cardiac posted:considering they are essentially a middle class retard party.
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Mar 27, 2017 17:04
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Beeswax posted:Maud flat out refused to turn up to be questioned by Konstitutionsutskottet and in the end they didn't even launch an independent investigation into the whole fiasco. She got away scot free and continues to be employed in all sorts of high prestige positions. Lol for Nöjesguiden as serious reference. Wasn't the KU after she had left her minister post? I fail to see how this is worse than other similar fuckups where the politicians also got away scot-free. Also in these cases, holier than thou is a pretty bad idea, cause it will expose your side a hypocrites when they invariably gently caress up doing the same thing. That said, Alliansen were really bad at implementing control checks of their reforms.
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Mar 27, 2017 17:14
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Cardiac posted:Lol for Nöjesguiden as serious reference. quote:Wasn't the KU after she had left her minister post? quote:I fail to see how this is worse than other similar fuckups where the politicians also got away scot-free. quote:Also in these cases, holier than thou is a pretty bad idea, cause it will expose your side a hypocrites when they invariably gently caress up doing the same thing. quote:That said, Alliansen were really bad at implementing control checks of their reforms.
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Mar 27, 2017 17:40
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Mar 27, 2017 17:48
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Cardiac posted:I can't believe you're using Åke Jävel as a serious reference. 1-0 to me.
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Mar 27, 2017 17:50
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Åke Jävel is a peer reviewed quality source.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:42
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so that means I can be a cheapskate and post about posting instead of having some wit or spending any more on comedy avs for people. Which I'm also incapable of. Comedy.
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Cardiac posted:Lol for Nöjesguiden as serious reference. It's funny because they campaigned against government overspending (remember them putting welfare cheaters front and center?) and then went on to completely overspend in a dystopian proportion.
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Mar 27, 2017 19:21
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Svartvit posted:It's funny because they campaigned against government overspending (remember them putting welfare cheaters front and center?) and then went on to completely overspend in a dystopian proportion. There was so much waste to get rid off but instead they just remade it into other useless poo poo like Tillväxtverket, hopefully we can get some proper dismantling of ofantliga sektorn after the housing market crashes.
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