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TsarZiedonis posted:Am I reading the AdMech War Convocation formation rules correctly? Because it looks like you get as many free relics and weapons as you want. Does that mean that I can load up every unit champion with every relic in the book for free? And then give every squad every free non gets hot plasma caviliers? Because that umm, that seems really overpowered. Yes and yes.
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I'm completely out of the loop, but does anybody else have Contemptors in the 40k era?
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Chaos has contemptors with Forge World rules, I'm going to be using a Mantic plague strider as a Nurgle contemptor
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Xarbala posted:I'm completely out of the loop, but does anybody else have Contemptors in the 40k era? Contemptors have been available from Forge World for years and got added as a general Space Marine unit in the Angels of Death supplement right around when the Betrayal at Calth set came out.
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Good to know, they're like the one thing from 30k that makes me go, "Yeah, I'm starting to see what you see in this."
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SteelMentor posted:No. Read the wording on the Relic table: Only one of each Relic can be taken per army, and I think AdMech have the only one per character restriction as well. Sorry, I should have worded that better: I can give each character a free relic, until I hit the applicable limits on relics? Which still seems like 100+ points of free swag. Also, does the free weapons thing mean free guns for like, the battle servitors and walkers and such? I've been out of the game for several years and I'm just coming back in with AdMech because they seem like a breath of fresh air (I *almost* bought Dark Eldar!). The Formations thing is really new to me, and seems really cool, but I am a little disappointed how some armies seem to have that one really, really good formation that gives you free stuff that everyone must take! It limits some of the fluffier choices to friendly pick up games only. That being said, I really do like the War Convocation. The three Adeptus Mechanicus books really feel like they should have just been one army to me, and that formation lets me run them together in a way that feels right.
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War Convocation is great, but it's a bit of a reverse from the standard army build. You get all the free stuff, but unless you are playing a huge game your list really can't deviate much from the core units. Don't get me wrong, it's still a powerful Formation, but it has a built-in weakness that you can't have much redundancy in the good units because you had to buy so many Electro Priests etc.
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Is there anything prevents banner powers from stacking? Could you get the Chapter Banner, Standard of the Emp, New Ultramarines banner, and custodes banner in the same area to grant +4 attacks?
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I can't speak for all of those but banners generally only give the +1 attack to the unit that they are a part of.
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SteelMentor posted:No. Read the wording on the Relic table: Only one of each Relic can be taken per army, and I think AdMech have the only one per character restriction as well. As someone who started playing Mechanicus this year (after a long break from 40k), I feel that the Convocation's main strength is giving all units the canticles rule, especially if you have Cawl leading your army. And you are still highly vulnerable first turn, especially if your opponent seizes the initiative. What the army lacks is mobility (transports would help here). Free plasmas are certainly not on the level of the Ynnari soulburst rule, or a 2++ re-rollable save that some daemons can get. Not to mention that you get 6 plasma calivers at most, which is hardly gamebreaking. Also, you are stuck with 80% of you army being chosen for you before you start making your list, which might not be to everyone's liking. If you could fill your Skitarii detachment with only 2- or 3-plasma Vanguard units, that is what I'd call horrible.
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PierreTheMime posted:War Convocation is great, but it's a bit of a reverse from the standard army build. You get all the free stuff, but unless you are playing a huge game your list really can't deviate much from the core units. Don't get me wrong, it's still a powerful Formation, but it has a built-in weakness that you can't have much redundancy in the good units because you had to buy so many Electro Priests etc. Hmm, it's basically like having two CADs plus a knight, right? It makes sense that they'd make the minimums you had to take so high, those formation rules would be much too powerful for smaller games. And I thought electro priests were elites choices, and therefore optional?
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xtothez posted:Although not officially confirmed, the new (8E) 40k rulebook is expected to drop within a few months. No one knows yet what changes it will bring, but regardless I wouldn't recommend buying the current rulebook unless you get a particularly cheap 2nd-hand copy. Another thing to note on this - Orks are inherently really strong in Necromunda due to being cheap and tough. I don't know if this will carry over into the new game as the meta will shift somewhat away from standard humans being the norm but I would guess they will be decent at least.
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TsarZiedonis posted:Hmm, it's basically like having two CADs plus a knight, right? It makes sense that they'd make the minimums you had to take so high, those formation rules would be much too powerful for smaller games. Whoops, you are correct. I forgot the Battle Congregation was the one that was smaller. It's the Maniple that needs essentially one of everything except one flavor of Dragoon.
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Had a dude call my admech army overpowered. He was playing that perma-shrouded Death Guard formation with a crap ton of bikes. His flying nurgle DP picked a fight with Cawl and lost. The bike sorcerer he probably should've sent against Cawl instead spent the game 8 inches away somehow bouncing harmlessly off a unit of Infiltrators. (Btw this was asked earlier. They only get the extra attack with the taser goads. The gun they get with the power weapons isn't a pistol)
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Pendent posted:I can't speak for all of those but banners generally only give the +1 attack to the unit that they are a part of. Custodes banner is an aura as is the Emperor's in the Marine codex. The chapter banner and Ultramar banner are for their unit, normally honor guard can only take one standard from the standards list in the main codex. The new GS book says the new banner can be taken by units that normally take standards, but I'm unsure if this counts towards their one standard limit, logic would dictate it does. Either way it'd be fun to run a Land Raider Spearhead in Apocalypse with Custodes in one, and honor guard in the other all carrying these banners, giving the HG something gross like 6-7 attacks on the charge.
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An unboxing video of Talons of the emporer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTF0JRyReSI
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Had a dude call my admech army overpowered. That was me. Thanks for the clarification! I don't think AdMech are overpowered. They have a glaring weakness in lack of mobility. I barely squeaked out a win against my buddies Necrons. Technowolf posted:An unboxing video of Talons of the emporer: Man, The Emperor's Chosen rule sounds brutal. Re-rolling invulnerable saves? Zuul the Cat fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Zuul the Cat posted:That was me. Thanks for the clarification! Yeah they have obvious flaws (this is a good thing, though) and I think the War Convo just brings them up to par. The bonus--free wargear upgrades--isn't actually that devastating because it mostly amounts to some free medium-range shooting upgrades on slow units, which is fine. Army-wide canticles is the real bonus, but even that isn't a dealbreaker. Ideally, most Formation detachments would be about the power level of the AdMech War Convo. Also re: going up against Cawl, best to avoid it unless you've got an ID mechanism. The murdersword is amazing for dealing with him though.
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goose willis posted:OK fair enough Why don't you try their new sci-fi game? Rules are a lot cheaper and te balance can't be worse than 40k
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Can someone tell me about using chaos cultists in either incarnation of Kill Team?
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I know some of you guys are already familiar with the Glacial Geek, but I want to drop his stuff here. His batreps are a lot of fun, though he plays DA like 95% of the time. It's sorta his deal, though he plays a ton of different guys and is really down to throwdown versus any list. He's good fun to watch when you paint or whatever, since he's a really chill dude whose worst sin is pretty much going "woooo" and looking for Phil faces (on custom dice I, and a bunch of locals, went in on as a gift.) Plus, he generally knows the rules. Big plus there.Here's the first half of this, the most recent batrep, which has your boy Von Humboldt representing the CSM/Renegades and rocking models of wildly varying quality. I earlier did a "Campaign in a Day" with the Glacial Geek, and due to miscommunication, I had about three days to paint 3000 points. I got it done (it includes a Baneblade not shown here; the Scorpion was done ages ago!) but I have not touched the models since then. Or paint since then. Anyways, I wanted to recognize and hype something cool my buddy does, show off my own minis, show off the minis of Ray (the Sister's player and the only dude with dice as rough as Phil) and Colin (my Daemonic ally who got distracted and didn't finish basing his counts-as Uterblight.) I think it's pretty fun, and it's nice to have some friendly batreps to chill with! (I am also responsible for scripting the opening narration. This includes the Yeats, as I am a huge nerd.)
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Should I bother getting assault marines for my iron hands? Regular melee dudes don't seem that great in 7th edition. I feel like if I want to send something into melee it should be assault terminators or a command squad. I could maybe see taking 5 assault marines with 2 flamethrowers either in a rhino or deep striking for anti-horde as my mandatory FA choice for stormlance demi-company, but was thinking of just getting a melta speeder or attack bike to fill that slot as cheaply as possible. Or alternatively getting a bike squad as a discount version of a command squad for my bike captain.
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Have any of you flown with a Battlefoam Pack 432? I'm going to Adepticon and want to make sure I won't have any issues using it as a carry-on.
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I'm gonna order that "Start Collecting!" marine box set off of ebay and wherever I can get like 10 scouts the cheapest so what I'm saying is, sell me some scouts you nerds. I need a bunch, boutta get some neophytes going Babe Magnet fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 21:14
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Ebay will probably be flooded with cheap Scouts after the new Shadow Wars drops.
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yeah that what I was thinking but I figured I'd give you guys a chance to make some money off of me when is that supposed to hit? I was thinking of getting it
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Floppychop posted:Ebay will probably be flooded with cheap Scouts after the new Shadow Wars drops. yeah this is a great point
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Any advice on converting a vindicator into a laser destroyer?
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Babe Magnet posted:
Since they were taking orders at GAMA, I'd say within the next 60 days? If I hear anything at Adepticon, I'll post it.
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chutche2 posted:Any advice on converting a vindicator into a laser destroyer? Build a regular vindicator and stuff a bunch of ballpoint pens down the gun barrel.
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ANAmal.net posted:Build a regular vindicator and stuff a bunch of ballpoint pens down the gun barrel. Thanks for the great comment. Anyway, my main issue is trying to find lascannon bits that can physically fit inside the space the vanquisher cannon takes up as a quad mount. Anyone have ideas on ones I could look for?
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Mar 20, 2017 21:59
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ANAmal.net posted:Build a regular vindicator and stuff a bunch of ballpoint pens down the gun barrel. More pens means more shots, right?
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chutche2 posted:Thanks for the great comment. he's not wrong--that's pretty much what the barrels on the vindicator laser destroyer look like. You could also use mechanical pencils, if you had the right type. Anything that has a ribbed non-rubber grip should create an effect similar to what you're looking for Technowolf posted:More pens means more shots, right? now you're on the trolley
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Did I miss anything important in the last 5000+ posts?
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Or just get some 1/4 inch 4 inch long brass tubes from a home and gardening store and some modeling putty.
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Kilo147 posted:Did I miss anything important in the last 5000+ posts? They blew up the setting and replaced it with a new game called Age of the Emperor.
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Kilo147 posted:Did I miss anything important in the last 5000+ posts? Naw
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chutche2 posted:Thanks for the great comment. Uh buy a landraider redeemer and use the four now extra las cannons for bits?
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mango sentinel posted:They blew up the setting and replaced it with a new game called Age of the Emperor. B-b-b-but my tyranids! My precious tyranids that I never use and gather dust, what of them?!
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