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Escobarbarian posted:People can form emotional connections to things for all sort of bullshit reasons tbh. I definitely don't think that means anything with regards to how good a show is. Right, and calling out the ways the show might come up short is healthy; if those people engage that criticism with ad hominem attacks, then you know the quality of those reasons. Until that happens, though (EDIT: and I'm not saying it hasn't, but as far as I've seen it's been the occasional fringe case and not something endemic, at least not here), I feel like it's best to assume good faith. If fans can miss (or willfully blind themselves to) what holds a show back, then it logically follows that detractors can miss what propels a show forward. DivisionPost fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Escobarbarian posted:People can form emotional connections to things for all sort of bullshit reasons tbh. I definitely don't think that means anything with regards to how good a show is. You're kind of insisting there's some kind of objective truth here only you are privy to and it's really pissing me off. I have always admitted JJ has flaws, but I really like the way that story is told.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:22
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Arist posted:You're kind of insisting there's some kind of objective truth here only you are privy to and it's really pissing me off. Well let's be fair: it's his truth. We all have personal reactions to what we see and sometimes it can be hard to express that. Don't feed into his negative perceptions by attacking him with a tone argument (which, admittedly, accounts for half the arguments I have).
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Mar 20, 2017 15:37
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Arist posted:You're kind of insisting there's some kind of objective truth here only you are privy to and it's really pissing me off. That doesn't sound very healthy on your part.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:38
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DivisionPost posted:Well let's be fair: it's his truth. We all have personal reactions to what we see and sometimes it can be hard to express that. Don't feed into his negative perceptions by attacking him with a tone argument (which, admittedly, accounts for half the arguments I have). I shouldn't have to defend my right to like something. Me saying "thing you like is bad" is annoying isn't a tone argument. Why does he even care? Escobarbarian posted:That doesn't sound very healthy on your part. Oh, shut up.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:40
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I'm just talking about my own personal opinion dude. You seriously gotta calm down.
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Mar 20, 2017 15:52
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Escobarbarian posted:I'm just talking about my own personal opinion dude. You seriously gotta calm down. I'm not actually that annoyed, because I'm used to it at this point, but you just have a tendency to post some incredibly patronizing bullshit. I get that it's your opinion, but can you at least try not to frame it in the most condescending way possible? e: I guess this is a tone argument now, but it's over and over with you, man. Arist fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 15:54
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Man I missed the classic CC slapfights. Anyway it's just a TV show stop being a baby
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Mar 20, 2017 16:00
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Escobarbarian posted:Man I missed the classic CC slapfights. Anyway it's just a TV show stop being a baby Only if you stop with the whiny Occ poo poo whenever someone mentions a show you don't like.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:03
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Please feel free to quote any of these supposedly whiny posts
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Mar 20, 2017 16:12
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I didn't care for Jessica Jones, anyone wanna slapfight about it?
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Mar 20, 2017 16:15
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Is it because you hate women or because you hate white people?
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Mar 20, 2017 16:16
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IRQ posted:I didn't care for Jessica Jones, anyone wanna slapfight about it? Stop whining IRQ!!!!
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Mar 20, 2017 16:17
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"Whiny" might have been the wrong word, I admit, but my point was you have a tendency to jump into these arguments and indirectly insult people for liking loving TV shows. I'm done arguing this.IRQ posted:I didn't care for Jessica Jones, anyone wanna slapfight about it? I don't care who likes it, every time Esco brings it up it's the most patronizing poo poo.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:21
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GreenNight posted:Is it because you hate women or because you hate white people? It can't be both?
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Mar 20, 2017 16:21
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IRQ posted:It can't be both? I'd prefer that, more for me.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:25
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Sooooo......anyone else watching Crashing? Still sort of on the fence about it, although each episode has a bunch of funny moments.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:28
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Never heard of it.
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Mar 20, 2017 16:48
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Crashing was ruined for me by Hollywood Handbook.
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Mar 20, 2017 17:35
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Lurdiak posted:Well sure, everyone knew as soon as Punisher was involved in Daredevil that it was a backdoor pilot kind of situation. I thought it was more of a test balloon. Like, Marvel/Netflix didn't want to commit to it until they saw the reception of the character. They didn't announce Punisher would be its own series until a few weeks after season 2 of Daredevil.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:08
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Hey remember how nearly every single Netflix title sequence sucks rear end? Good news! http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/17/technology/netflix-skip-intro-button/index.html
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Mar 20, 2017 19:08
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When is Netflix going to start including DVD only features such as commentary, deleted scenes and making of videos?
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Mar 20, 2017 19:09
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IRQ posted:Hey remember how nearly every single Netflix title sequence sucks rear end? Good news! I will never skip this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIdFa1qLgNQ
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Mar 20, 2017 19:11
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less laughter posted:I will never skip this one: Yeah, I'm probably dead inside. 
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Mar 20, 2017 19:11
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GreenNight posted:When is Netflix going to start including DVD only features such as commentary, deleted scenes and making of videos? Almost certainly never, as that would destroy one of the only reasons people still buy physical media and the studios would break out the pitchforks.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:22
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Yeah but Netflix could easily offer it for their own shows. I'd rewatch Jessica Jones for a Kristin Ritter commentary.
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Mar 20, 2017 19:23
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less laughter posted:I will never skip this one: I always loved the Songify bits schmoyoho made about the news so this was kinda cool.  Still need to get around to watching this at some point. In the time I got one weekend, I did Orange is the New Black instead and regretted it immediately. I don't respond to shows where the main character and most of the cast are not a likable people. Just sours me on humanity for a bit. I watched all of season one waiting to love it as much as everyone else did, if I was missing something, but nope, not for me. The same thing happened with Girls too.
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Timby posted:Almost certainly never, as that would destroy one of the only reasons people still buy physical media and the studios would break out the pitchforks. Do the DVD sets of Orange is the New Black and House of Cards have special features?
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Mar 20, 2017 19:31
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GreenNight posted:Yeah but Netflix could easily offer it for their own shows. I'd rewatch Jessica Jones for a Kristin Ritter commentary. This but for BoJack
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Mar 20, 2017 19:32
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Escobarbarian posted:Two posts above are very good except I would argue Killgrave wasn't great after they completely showed their hand with him in ep 8. Seconding this. Kilgrave was only a good villain at first because they didn't show much of him, and the more screentime and backstory he got the less interesting he became.
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less laughter posted:I will never skip this one: UKS is basically why I said only nearly all of them sucked.
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Mar 20, 2017 20:07
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IRQ posted:Hey remember how nearly every single Netflix title sequence sucks rear end? Good news! This is cool because I've got a weird thing for pre-title cold opens; to me, there's something about the way a show will go right into a story and let a killer line or moment lead into an awesome theme song (The Wire was actually pretty good at this, along with everything else), or Breaking Bad having what were, for all intents and purposes, mood-setting short films before its titles. So Netflix already jumps past titles automatically if you're binging, but it can't do that if there are any cold opens on the show you're watching, and I always kind of worried that this could phase out cold opens to make room for a more "streaming-friendly" structure to programming. A "Skip Intro" button could go a long way in easing that burden on the creative.
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Escobarbarian posted:People can form emotional connections to things for all sort of bullshit reasons tbh. I definitely don't think that means anything with regards to how good a show is. Except that is kinda the purpose of a lot of entertainment, is to get the audience emotionally invested in something.
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DivisionPost posted:This is cool because I've got a weird thing for pre-title cold opens; to me, there's something about the way a show will go right into a story and let a killer line or moment lead into an awesome theme song (The Wire was actually pretty good at this, along with everything else), or Breaking Bad having what were, for all intents and purposes, mood-setting short films before its titles. Yeah, Breaking Bad was good about it. They have one of the better title sequences too, a less than thirty second title card and an iconic guitar riff, and on to the rest of the episode.
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I'm binging Shameless on Netflix right now and its actually kind of annoying that it skips past the intro and moves right to the next episode because Shameless has both cute little pre-title segments and the occasional mid credits scene. I'd actually kind of like an option to make it go wire to wire before it moves on. Ideally there'd just be "skip ahead" kind of button that jumps you right past the titles/credits if you're not interested.
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Escobarbarian posted:I was initially interested based on the cast but it's a David E. Kelley show and he isn't really good anymore and reviews all said the cast was the only good thing Oh poo poo, that sucks I loved Picket Fences and Boston Public a lot. Like a LOT, those shows were way ahead of their time. I'm gonna ask again since nobody ever answered before: was thirtysomething ever good/does it hold up? e: talking of Netflix and intros, when I binged Halt and Catch Fire S3 Netflix never skipped the intro, which is great because seriously that intro is boss as gently caress
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precision posted:Oh poo poo, that sucks I loved Picket Fences and Boston Public a lot. Like a LOT, those shows were way ahead of their time. It's seriously one of the best works of modern graphic design and it was for a loving tv show. I adore H&CF's intro, it says EVERYTHING, it's about an idea being refined, or leaving your friends and going out on your own, however you want to interpret it, it most likely works. Then the wafers start lighting up, it's hard lines vector type art with this bit of ugliness and imperfection to it that makes it reminiscent of TRON or something once the beam of light starts shooting in a straight line with the faintest clouds moving past the camera in the foreground. It does all this under 30 seconds, not some drawn out 2 minute orchestrated dolly shot slog of a bunch of server rooms fading into PCBs I love everything about it. it's perfect. EDIT: ahh gad drat the music too. The little deetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeetdeets right at the end. bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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To say nothing of how good the music is. DUH DUM DUH DUM DUH DUM beepbeepboopboopbeepbeep DUH DUM DUH DUM
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Penelope Cruz is playing Donatella Versace on the new American Crime Story. If wonder if this is an Emmy grab for her.  
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