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Oxyclean posted:I think I rather object pokemon over "normal type bird/mammal with a funny haircut or angry eyes" or "mono water type pokemon that's literally just a fish or sea creature" you best not be talkin poo poo about my friend toucannon
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Paul.Power posted:Golurk's pretty heavy, at 700lb+. Golurk's also one of the few unambiguously heroic ghosts though, so it's already kind of running in exception territory. golurk is a golem, so it's a ghost inhabiting a statue, which explains the weight
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Mar 20, 2017 19:11
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Manatee Cannon posted:you best not be talkin poo poo about my friend toucannon I am talking mess about Toucannon. Why is he so angry? Chill out Toucannon!
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Mar 20, 2017 19:12
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Linkite et al. was one of the designs I alluded to earlier.  I agree that the concept of Linkite itself wouldn't be out of place amongst all the ghosts that try to steal souls or are souls of dead humans, but at the same time I feel that within the context of Uranium, it's just one more brick in the house they built. Good to see we didn't have to go too far in for things to start blowing up.CoffeeAvenger posted:You can tell Uranium's trying to get all grimdark when that nuclear explosion theme makes absolutely no attempt to sound like Pokemon music. It's just "DUN DUDUN DUN DUN DUN" To be fair, it's the same music used when Kyogre goes on a rampage in S/E/AS. Considering how many people think that Groudon's theme is Even Spookier, I wouldn't be surprised if that one comes up at any point too, unless it already did and I forgot 
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Mar 20, 2017 19:47
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mandatory lesbian posted:golurk is a golem, so it's a ghost inhabiting a statue, which explains the weight Also, it learns Fly 
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Mar 20, 2017 20:01
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MiracleFlare posted:
Ah, I played Ruby, so that explains why I haven't heard it then. Never mind me. Still doesn't excuse Uranium, though. Also, I'm okay with object pokemon because they add variety. Bronzong and Klefki are my buddies!
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Mar 20, 2017 20:11
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Honedge, the pokemon who is a sword, is the best and rules
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Mar 20, 2017 20:13
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CoffeeAvenger posted:Ah, I played Ruby, so that explains why I haven't heard it then. Never mind me. There are a lot of problems with Uranium. The soundtrack isn't one of them. Really can't get over how hard they hosed the pooch on that ghost pokemon though. It looks stupid as poo poo. Like the concept is fine but they went with about the dumbest possible design. And that evolution is even worse holy poo poo
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Mar 20, 2017 21:04
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Hammurabi posted:There are a lot of problems with Uranium. The soundtrack isn't one of them. The soundtrack is as bad as that second evolution  There are a few good tracks but most of them are just way too...busy? Like there's way too much going on in them, even the more easy-going themes.
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Mar 20, 2017 21:10
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i don't think the ball and chain connecting them to the pokeball is meant to be 'caught pokemon = slavery!!' but 'they are chained to the ball because they died in it,' like how ghosts haunt houses or whatever
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Mar 20, 2017 22:03
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Endorph posted:i don't think the ball and chain connecting them to the pokeball is meant to be 'caught pokemon = slavery!!' but 'they are chained to the ball because they died in it,' like how ghosts haunt houses or whatever I've never played pokemon, but I know enough about it that now I'm suddenly expecting there to be a haunted computer pokemon from ones that were never picked back up. Or something along those lines if I'm not horribly mistaken.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:08
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I don't know why we are talking so much about it. It is bad, OFS isn't evening using it and it is barely a pokemon and more a substitute doll poorly programed.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:09
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Paul.Power posted:Golurk's pretty heavy, at 700lb+. Golurk's also one of the few unambiguously heroic ghosts though, so it's already kind of running in exception territory. Golurk is who it chooses to be.
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Mar 20, 2017 22:21
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Herr Tog posted:I don't know why we are talking so much about it. It is bad, OFS isn't evening using it and it is barely a pokemon and more a substitute doll poorly programed. can't say that without explaining
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Mar 20, 2017 22:23
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Endorph posted:i don't think the ball and chain connecting them to the pokeball is meant to be 'caught pokemon = slavery!!' but 'they are chained to the ball because they died in it,' like how ghosts haunt houses or whatever Yeah, chains are a common enough ghost motif that I'm surprised they haven't appeared as part of a real pokemon's design yet, given they're the most literal possible metaphor for "attachment". Jacob Marley, for example. The actual problem with Linkite's design is it has too many gimmicks. It uses a substitute doll; alright, I guess that's kind of an interesting idea. But it's also got that long, attention-drawing chain, and a prominent pokeball that takes up half of its design space, making it even less conventional. There are three separate ideas in play competing for attention, and they just don't gel. I like weird and unusual pokemon, but you have to really narrow and focus your concept when you're doing something out of the usual, otherwise it just comes off as loving incomprehensible. EDIT: It's not even a Ghost/Normal type. What a rip. Classy Hydra fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 20, 2017 |
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Mar 20, 2017 22:25
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loquacius posted:Honedge, the pokemon who is a sword, is the best and rules Then it gets even better when it evolves. What could be better than a sword? TWO SWORDS! And what's even better than two Swords? A really BIG SWORD!
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Mar 20, 2017 22:48
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GeneX posted:Tomb of Horrors is actually fun though Everybody who plays Tomb of Horrors knows 100% what it is and what they're getting into. It's not pretending to be normal D&D it was literally "Hi, I'm Gary Gygax, and I designed a module with the explicit intent of killing your characters. Let's see if you can beat me!"
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Mar 20, 2017 22:56
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SirPhoebos posted:Also, it learns Fly He's one of my favorite Ghosts, but it's too bad Golurk can't learn Drill Run. 
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Mar 20, 2017 23:02
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Shugojin posted:Everybody who plays Tomb of Horrors knows 100% what it is and what they're getting into. It's not pretending to be normal D&D it was literally "Hi, I'm Gary Gygax, and I designed a module with the explicit intent of killing your characters. Let's see if you can beat me!" "What? You took the adamantium doors off and sold them for more treasure than exists in the dungeon? poo poo. Well, next time they're just valueless illusions!"
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Mar 20, 2017 23:07
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Tired Moritz posted:can't say that without explaining Its stats and moves are not very good
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Mar 20, 2017 23:08
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The ghost sub could work if the rear legs and ball were dropped. The chains are actually an alright ghostly touch but it's way too much in combination with the poke ball. The message is too muddled with all those elements. That is really the problem with this fangame, mechanical issues aside. The dev hurled too many themes and concepts in rather than choosing a couple things to focus on and develop. As a result, the tone and mood whip around and the game winds up goofy rather than touching or dark or whatever. But on ghost types... Drifloon is the cutest ghost but gastly is still my fave. 
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Mar 21, 2017 00:07
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And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. 
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Mar 21, 2017 00:36
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. wanna pet that fish 
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Mar 21, 2017 00:39
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I think the names are doppole and artifish offhand
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Mar 21, 2017 00:40
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GeneX posted:Tomb of Horrors is actually fun though I still remember reaching into the demons mouth to pull the "hidden switch" only to have my arm ripped off by the mini-portal in there.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:08
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PoptartsNinja posted:"What? You took the adamantium doors off and sold them for more treasure than exists in the dungeon? poo poo. Well, next time they're just valueless illusions!" If I recall correctly it was more like "these are ordinary valueless doors, with an enchantment on them that causes them to behave exactly like adamantium unless they're removed from the dungeon." Which always struck me as kind of a cop-out, but I guess you need that kind of thing to keep the players from just disassembling the entire dungeon using high-yield mining magic or something.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:20
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:If I recall correctly it was more like "these are ordinary valueless doors, with an enchantment on them that causes them to behave exactly like adamantium unless they're removed from the dungeon." Which always struck me as kind of a cop-out, but I guess you need that kind of thing to keep the players from just disassembling the entire dungeon using high-yield mining magic or something. If I ever run this, I'm speccing out a cloud of adamantium nanites. Adamantites.
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Mar 21, 2017 01:27
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. Okay, that's just adorable, both forms. Though I'm guessing it'd be more frightening once it's mouth is open.
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:If I recall correctly it was more like "these are ordinary valueless doors, with an enchantment on them that causes them to behave exactly like adamantium unless they're removed from the dungeon." Which always struck me as kind of a cop-out, but I guess you need that kind of thing to keep the players from just disassembling the entire dungeon using high-yield mining magic or something. The whole thing was a dick move against people who just wanted to roll dice to check for traps, declare traps found, avoid traps, find boss, roll dice to kill boss, get loot. You had to REALLY think outside the box to get through it all. The final "boss" of the classic ToH was a skull that could only be hurt by +5 Weapons (really loving powerful weapons), literal gemstones being used as weapons (1pt of damage per 10k value!), Wizards casting spells from the Astral Plane (which was chock full of demons in the area) or Clerics smiting evil (of which they had limited uses per day) It also didn't fight back at all but if you tried to touch it it would insta-gib you and eat your soul. If 8 people got eaten it would teleport the remaining party members loving miles away from the tomb with a curse making every attack made against them ALWAYS hit. Also if you were smart enough to ignore the skull and just go straight for the loot you would encounter a phantasm that wouldn't actually STOP you from taking the stuff but would threaten you enough that if the players preemptively hit it; then it would power up to a level-draining monster and ruin your face.
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Genocyber posted:The soundtrack is as bad as that second evolution Bells aren't supposed to pitch-shift, that's not how bells work  Like, I can kind of see what they were going for with some of it but it just hits this sort of musical uncanny valley for me.
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Mar 21, 2017 02:12
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. Oh my god, that angler fish is adorable. 
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Mar 21, 2017 03:03
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Gilgamesh255 posted:Okay, that's just adorable, both forms. Though I'm guessing it'd be more frightening once it's mouth is open. according to the pokedex it's very friendly and plays with other pokemon using the lure, if nothing else
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. I love this fish
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Mar 21, 2017 03:15
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. No, I'm sorry, these are real rear end pokemans. Herr Tog fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Mar 21, 2017 |
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Mar 21, 2017 03:28
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That is a wonderful fish
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Mar 21, 2017 03:28
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. That's a cute fish.
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Mar 21, 2017 03:32
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Then it gets even better when it evolves. What could be better than a sword? TWO SWORDS!
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Mar 21, 2017 03:39
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. Oh my god that fish
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Mar 21, 2017 03:44
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LupusAter posted:And again, when talking about fanmade games, Pokemon Sage takes the concept (pokeball mimic) and executes it a lot better. I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him and call him George! 
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CoffeeAvenger posted:I will hug him and pet him and squeeze him and call him George! Her name is clearly Bitey
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