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Astrobastard
Dec 31, 2008



Winky Face

evobatman posted:

I picked this lot up just a few minutes ago today:



Got it for free on our local Craigslist equivalent. That's a pretty decent score.

Maaaaan I had that exact model as my first machine but eventually gave in and upgraded after 2 years as I couldn't resist the inline remote with the LCD screen. Trying to type in the band name and title before the song ended was tough at times when recording in real time and listening to alot of punk albums with 1 minute songs. Loved that thing

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Exit Strategy
Dec 10, 2010

by sebmojo

Iron Crowned posted:

To be honest, last time I went into Best Buy, I'm surprised they can afford to keep the lights on.

As someone who worked site-to-site contract IT, I can tell you why Best Buy still exists:

"We need you to go to <pedophile dentist's office 50 miles away> and fix his server. All of the drives in the RAID have crashed out save two, and you'll need eight replacement drives of the same model number. Best Buy sells them. Buy ten and give me the receipt, we'll comp you next paycheck."

Astrobastard
Dec 31, 2008



Winky Face

Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I was an insufferable little poo poo in middle school and this thing was a goddamned weapon of terror in my filthy little hands. I had this one...



It was fairly easy to program it quickly and once you memorized the 2 digit codes for all the popular brands you could gently caress poo poo up. I had many teachers on the edge of breakdown from messing around during what should have been an easy day for them. TV goes off. That's weird. He goes and turns it back on. Video pauses, then rewinds just as he gets back to his desk after unpairing it. A few minutes to by... Mute. And on and on and on. God drat was I a poo poo kid. I never got caught either. I can't imagine how much troubleshooting the AV people had to do after the teacher insisted that the video rig was haunted by a malevolent spirit.

Even better than loving around at school was going to the mall. Food court TVs? Static at top volume. Program that hosed for Sony and go over to Sears and watch two dozen TVs flip on at off all at once. So much mayhem for such a little gadget. I don't know if my mom ever figured out why I wanted that thing for my birthday so badly.

After buying a 2nd hand TV without a remote and realising my s6 has an IR blaster, I discovered the joys of free Android apps that allow me to discreetly turn the TV off or randomly open up the menu once every Team Meeting at work.

I'd previously bought one of those keyfob remotes backa bout 2005 that would just spam every manufacturer code as you held down the command. It would take a few seconds sometimes but it was pretty much guaranteed to tun off the supermarket TV wall in about 8 seconds

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


Exit Strategy posted:

As someone who worked site-to-site contract IT, I can tell you why Best Buy still exists:

"We need you to go to <pedophile dentist's office 50 miles away> and fix his server. All of the drives in the RAID have crashed out save two, and you'll need eight replacement drives of the same model number. Best Buy sells them. Buy ten and give me the receipt, we'll comp you next paycheck."

Honestly since Amazon started charging sales tax in my state, I've been spending a lot more at Best Buy. Price is usually a wash on things available at both, and I can pick it up today.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Haha look at this scrub who doesn't live in a Free Same Day Delivery area :smuggo:

Also I have yet to figure out the sales tax policy on Amazon because I only get charged tax like half the time, is it based on the state the item is shipped from or something?

Kirk Vikernes
Apr 26, 2004

Count Goatnackh

whiteyfats posted:

There was this small chain called Media Play in the 90s that was nice. Could get books, music and movies all in one place. Went to the one in Gainesville, FL a lot, then it up and shut down one day.

Oh, we had Media Play too. I think the last thing I bought there was NIN's Fragile. It closed around 2000 in Indy.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Mammal Sauce posted:

Oh, we had Media Play too. I think the last thing I bought there was NIN's Fragile. It closed around 2000 in Indy.

Yeah, wiki says the entire chain closed at the same time.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
poo poo. I remember driving for like 45 minutes with my mom to CompUSA and being blown away by a store that only sold computers. I bought this:



So it had to be around 1987 or so. I think we also bought a mouse.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.







Toast Museum
Dec 3, 2005

30% Iron Chef

Kelp Me! posted:

Also I have yet to figure out the sales tax policy on Amazon because I only get charged tax like half the time, is it based on the state the item is shipped from or something?

I think it's based on who exactly you're buying from and whether they have a presence in your state. For me, that largely seems to boil down to sales tax on purchases directly from Amazon, but not on third-party purchases via Amazon.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
Aussie nostalgia overload here:

https://www.gamesmen.com.au/old-catalogues

Old catalogues from The Games Men. Games weren't cheap in Australia. Flipping through stuff like Myst cost $99 at release. Plus back in 1995 the multimedia boom with under the Microsoft Home banner and the glut of shovelware titles of glorified reference CD-Roms. And all of the adult titles casually tossed into the mix as well.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Kelp Me! posted:

a book on Netscape Navigator

Please tell me you bought this for your parents :classiclol:

I had a book on how to use ftp, gopher, archie, etc. from the command line :smuggo:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
I have one of these:



How quaint.

Anagram of GINGER
Oct 3, 2014

by Smythe
Is there a book still in print that would teach me how to use irc again? I forgot after 1996.

brunch with yr parents
Jan 6, 2013

SWEATBOX SYMPHONY

Platystemon posted:

I have one of these:



How quaint.

Even back then, that thing had to be, like, 95% porn.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

WebDog posted:

Aussie nostalgia overload here:

https://www.gamesmen.com.au/old-catalogues

Old catalogues from The Games Men. Games weren't cheap in Australia. Flipping through stuff like Myst cost $99 at release. Plus back in 1995 the multimedia boom with under the Microsoft Home banner and the glut of shovelware titles of glorified reference CD-Roms. And all of the adult titles casually tossed into the mix as well.

Jesus Christ, I had no idea how much my parents had to fork out for my SNES games as a kid. Sim City was $110 at release, and SMW was $90 :eyepop:

CubanMissile
Apr 22, 2003

Of Hulks and Spider-Men

whiteyfats posted:

Oh, poo poo, I remember them. One closest to me had a pretty good selection.

I was so stoked when I found a VHS of Transformers: The Motion Picture that I could buy there before the DVD release and quality movie piracy was a thing.

I also to loved going into CompUSA and local computer stores to look at the hardware and overpriced RAM that would fluctuate wildly on a whiteboard. It was not a surprise to me these places were first against the wall when Newegg and Amazon came along.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

brunch with yr parents posted:

Even back then, that thing had to be, like, 95% porn.

The image tag was added to HTML and Mosaic between the publication of the first edition of the book in 1992 and the second edition in 1994.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Those are Australian prices, which are super hosed up. Most games were still $60-70 US new, with big efforts like Final Fantasy 6 or Phantasy Star 4 getting close to $100.


16 bit games were even better.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

brunch with yr parents posted:

Even back then, that thing had to be, like, 95% porn.

My memory is hazy, but I remember a brief period of time...maybe 1996 or 97 where porn got scarce. I think there was an interpretation of obscenity laws that meant hardcore producers in California could be brought up on charges in places like Alabama and until the courts quickly cleared it up no one wanted to sell any of their jaypegs. And back then you bought your porn.

It was a long time ago...but like our grandparents during the Great Depression - you remember when times are tough.

Looking it up, I think it was the Communications Decency Act which managed to get voted down by all 9 Justices in the Supreme Court.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011

Krispy Kareem posted:

It was a long time ago...but like our grandparents during the Great Depression - you remember when times are tough.

Luxury: I remember when I was a wee boy, I had to get up, half 4 in the morning, light a kerosene lamp without waking my 10 brothers and sisters, and tip toe down to the woodshed in the freezing cold just so I could pulverize my loin like a spastic gibbon over a rusty 2" by 3" tin type stolen from my Father's drawer.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

monolithburger posted:

Luxury: I remember when I was a wee boy, I had to get up, half 4 in the morning, light a kerosene lamp without waking my 10 brothers and sisters, and tip toe down to the woodshed in the freezing cold just so I could pulverize my loin like a spastic gibbon over a rusty 2" by 3" tin type stolen from my Father's drawer.

Oh. You had KEROSENE? And only TEN siblings?

And we would have MURDERED for rust...

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Krispy Kareem posted:

My memory is hazy, but I remember a brief period of time...maybe 1996 or 97 where porn got scarce. I think there was an interpretation of obscenity laws that meant hardcore producers in California could be brought up on charges in places like Alabama and until the courts quickly cleared it up no one wanted to sell any of their jaypegs. And back then you bought your porn.

:lol: no you didn't. Jesus what an amateur.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Some more 90s bullshit :

The Secure Digital Music Initiative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_Music_Initiative

Son of a bitches wanted to find a way to watermark MP3 files undetectably to normal people. Thank gently caress they never figured it out.

quote:

The strategy for the SDMI group involved two stages. Firstly to implement a secure digital watermarking scheme. This would allow music to be tagged with a secure watermark that was hard to remove from the source audio without damaging it. The second stage was to ensure that SDMI compliant players (see the SDMI Portable Device Specification) would not play SDMI tagged music that was not authorized for that device. The reasoning was that even if the files were distributed they could not be played as the device would detect the music was not authorized to be played on it.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Grumbletron 4000 posted:

I would have loved that Beavis and Butthead toy. I'm sure that I wouldn't have been able to contain myself and it would have been confiscated the first day I brought it to school.

Which reminded me of this...



Anyone remember those? Each button made a stupid gun or explosion sound. They could be found at any gas station toy rack in the early 90's. RATTTATATATAT BWEEEOOOOO PSSSSHHHHH ELLLELLEEEEELLEEEEELEEEELLL DOOOODLEDOOODLEDOOODLE KOOOOOSHHH. A device that had no other purpose than to annoy people. When the battery started to die it just sounded like electronic Satan loving a reversed Black Sabbath album.

That looks like the exact button type and colors from a Robocop toy I had. It was an early primer in 'circuit bending' for me as if you pushed 2 different buttons at the same time (blue and red) it would force the sound to be a different sound from a different button (green). In hindsight it was just a total resistance differential from two buttons equalling the same resistance of a single button.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Imagined
Feb 2, 2007

Wacky Delly posted:

Honestly since Amazon started charging sales tax in my state, I've been spending a lot more at Best Buy. Price is usually a wash on things available at both, and I can pick it up today.

The price should really be exactly the same. All you have to do is say "I'd like to price match this" at the checkout and they'll look it up on Amazon and Newegg and a few other sites and match the lowest price they find.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Vanagoon posted:

Some more 90s bullshit :

The Secure Digital Music Initiative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_Music_Initiative

Son of a bitches wanted to find a way to watermark MP3 files undetectably to normal people. Thank gently caress they never figured it out.

Universal has been doing it for years, it's still an issue on all of the streaming services, apparently. It seems they found an inaudible alternative or just stopped around 2013, but anything earlier than that will have an odd sort of warbling/vibrato/tremolo effect to it.

https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
.
I could spend hours looking at those Gamesmen catalogues. Its crazy now in retrospect how expensive the games were relative to the system. You could buy a snes in 92 for $200aud and pay $100 for a copy of Lemmings. A gameboy cost the same as SF2 Turbo on the snes

Now a basic 500gb ps4 is maybe $400 rrp and the games are still about $100 new i.e. Mass Effect Andromeda.

HaB
Jan 5, 2001

What are the odds?

Enos Shenk posted:



The glorious Radio Shack Pocket Tone Dialer. The intended use was you could program in some commonly used numbers, it had a little speaker on the back, so you held the device up to the phone mouthpiece and it would play the DTMF tones to dial the number. Handy!

What the most common use was, was turning it into a Red Box. A device that would play the tones a payphone used to signal the switching center that money was put in. By replacing a crystal inside the Radio Shack dialer, you could make the * button emit a tone close enough to fool a payphone. The replacement crystals were difficult to get in the pre-Mouser and Digikey days, so you ended up buying them from various shady people on the web.

Radio Shack knew full well what teenagers wanting a tone dialer were planning to do. Trying to buy one of these from your local Radio Shack was like trying to buy cigarettes underage. You hung around and waited for the cool-looking employee to run the cash register. There were a lot of stories of Radio Shack employees refusing to sell these to kids because they drat well knew all they were trying to do was to build a Red Box.

I did this. Pretty sure I never had any trouble buying one. Not sure I ever encountered a Radio Shack employee who cared if I was even breathing much less what I was doing with the stuff I was buying.

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Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

KozmoNaut posted:

Universal has been doing it for years, it's still an issue on all of the streaming services, apparently. It seems they found an inaudible alternative or just stopped around 2013, but anything earlier than that will have an odd sort of warbling/vibrato/tremolo effect to it.

https://www.mattmontag.com/music/universals-audible-watermark

Wasn't there some company who was working on a way to prevent the analog copying of music a few years back?

They claimed to have "plugged the analog hole". Never heard much after that.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


The problem with all of those claims is that the existing technology they're trying to replace is already too ubiquitous. They're trying to stick their fingers in the dam when it's already exploded and short of widespread consumer adoption of an entirely new format they're wasting their time.

Also there's literally no way to "plug the analog hole" without access to magic or broad sweeping regulation by the government, and even then in the latter case it would just apply to new devices because there's no feasible way to force the general public to hand over all their recording devices. As long as people have access to magnetic tape there will be analog recording.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Trying to shoehorn DRM into existing DRM-free formats has failed again and again.

That's pretty much the whole reason why formats such as DVD-Audio, SACD, iTunes "Fairplay", WMA "PlaysForSure", MQA and others have been introduced, they are futile attempts to displace existing DRM-free formats, and to make tons of licensing royalties for their creators. So far, every single one has been a massive failure, as they either require significant investment in new playback hardware, or present too many annoyances to be worth the effort for the average user.

Streaming services have been successful in implementing DRM, because it's completely transparent to the users, and the annoyance is sufficiently low that people don't care. Unlike with DRMed WMA tracks for instance, I have never encountered a "could not download license, track cannot be played". It just works.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

And even then, you always have manufacturers who are willing to build devices to spec but "accidentally" leak information on how to trivially defeat the anti-piracy measures, because if you're just manufacturing devices and don't have a stake in the actual recording industry it's good for your market share to have your device be known as the "hacker friendly" one.

iPods and MP3 players in general would never have been a thing if you couldn't play illegal MP3s on them.

Collateral Damage has a new favorite as of 15:53 on Mar 21, 2017

robodex
Jun 6, 2007

They're what's for dinner
Yeah the late 90s/early 2000s were a clusterfuck for DRM'd music, because it took until Apple released the ITMS that they realized as long as it's easier to pirate something, people will just do that instead.

Keiya
Aug 22, 2009

Come with me if you want to not die.

Explosionface posted:

It was also the first place I saw a black computer (Acer Aspire?). I remember thinking it was weird and cool.

Man it is impossible to find beige cases anymore. I want an ugly beige box! With a turbo button!

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


There was also that "DRM" that I think Sony had that was really just malware that installed itself if you put one of their CDs in your computer

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


Keiya posted:

Man it is impossible to find beige cases anymore. I want an ugly beige box! With a turbo button!

Or even for Apple's totally not-beige "platinum" color. Turbo buttons are were the tits.

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Explosionface posted:

Or even for Apple's totally not-beige "platinum" color. Turbo buttons are were the tits.

Don't worry, leave them out in the sun for too long and they turned to piss color

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