Intruder posted:Ray Allen: roleplayer His best role playing was as Jesus.
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Ghost Dog posted:one of thems an mvp from a championship contender the other is a roleplayer from a good eastern conference team Nevermind the fact that KG and Pierce were traded literally the next offseason. That team was on the decline, everyone on the planet knew it. How many games does Ray Allen swing on that 12-13 celtics team. 3? They go 44-38 and still lose in the first round? Intruder posted:Ray Allen: roleplayer I mean, he was the 4th option and came off the bench. That's pretty decidedly a role player.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:35
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Paul Zuvella posted:Nevermind the fact that KG and Pierce were traded literally the next offseason. That team was on the decline, everyone on the planet knew it. Except for one man...
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Mar 21, 2017 18:38
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Dejan Bimble posted:Who are the Sonics? is that a d-league team?  one of my favorite memories of 2012 finals
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Mar 21, 2017 18:39
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Brolander posted:To me, that's preposterous. Almond butter, things of that nature Just want to say I am still laughing about this a day later.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:41
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They're still never getting the Sonics back and that makes me smile every time 
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Mar 21, 2017 18:41
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Intruder posted:Ray Allen: roleplayer There's really not many better examples of a roleplayer than Ray Allen was on that team. What are you getting at?
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Mar 21, 2017 18:42
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HOTLANTA MAN posted:They're still never getting the Sonics back and that makes me smile every time you are incapable of feeling anything resembling joy
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Mar 21, 2017 18:43
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Paul Zuvella posted:There is this cool dude named Bradley Beal, you might have heard of him I have but I don't see any evidence he's better than Wall. He hits a very good percentage of the shots Wall creates for him I guess, and is less completely reliant on Wall than everyone else on the team. He's noticeably worse at everything but shooting though, especially defense where he's downright bad.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:44
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Space Camp fuckup posted:you are incapable of feeling anything resembling joy He is extremely joyous about swipe right night
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Mar 21, 2017 18:45
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Intruder posted:Ray Allen: roleplayer 7th highest usage rate on the celtics his last year, his usage rate actually went up on the heat and i think you would be hard pressed to claim he wasnt a roleplayer on the heat, where he got more shots than he did on the celtics. So yeah, he was a roleplayer
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Mar 21, 2017 18:49
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RCarr posted:There's really not many better examples of a roleplayer than Ray Allen was on that team. What are you getting at? I suppose by that age Ring chasing is so much more palatable when it's a guy in his late 30s doing it I guess HOTLANTA MAN posted:They're still never getting the Sonics back and that makes me smile every time I've been searching high and low for that clip of Stern showing up to the press conference for letting everyone know Seattle wasn't getting the Kings and said "I'll make this quick, I've got a playoff game in OKC to get to" I've only heard about it and never seen it so maybe it was something someone just made up
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Mar 21, 2017 18:50
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idk if ringchasing even covers it, durant was already on a team you would join to ringchase, he left to chase them slightly better, mostly by destroying the team he was just on
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Mar 21, 2017 18:56
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Is it possible he didn't want to be in Oklahoma anymore.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:56
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Intruder posted:
I mean, yeah. If you know you only have 1 or 2 more good years left and decide to take a reduced role to get a ring, that is fine. When your in your prime and you leave a contending team because you don't think you can beat them, you'll probably get accused of some cowardice. I mean, I mostly don't care, free agency is free agency, do what you want. But you should also understand that there might be a reaction.
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Mar 21, 2017 18:59
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Nah he's a bitch
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Mar 21, 2017 18:59
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euphronius posted:Is it possible he didn't want to be in Oklahoma anymore. The people of OK should petition neo-Andrew Jackson to Trail of Tears his rear end back there.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:01
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Also Ray Allen already helped Boston get a ring
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Mar 21, 2017 19:02
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euphronius posted:Is it possible he didn't want to be in Oklahoma anymore. remove the basketball from it entirely. I'm Kevin Durant, superstar. I had one season in a major American city when I was 19, then I spent ages 20-27 living in Oklahoma City while traveling all over and seeing what my peers get to enjoy all the time. I can sign up for years more of that. OR I can move to San Francisco with all the other millenials and have first access to fund 30 of the next potential unicorn startups with just one of my game checks.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:05
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Also I was trying to find out what that 'that's preposterous' quote was from and all I could find was this https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/212767135901024256?lang=en
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Mar 21, 2017 19:06
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ketchup vs catsup posted:remove the basketball from it entirely. agreed, thats why we will have yet another lakers/knicks finals this year
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Mar 21, 2017 19:06
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Ghost Dog posted:agreed, thats why we will have yet another lakers/knicks finals this year Yes but when you add the basketball back into it you get A) the lakers organization and B) the knicks organization.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:08
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ketchup vs catsup posted:Yes but when you add the basketball back into it you get A) the lakers organization and B) the knicks organization. its almost like that part is the only part that matters
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Mar 21, 2017 19:09
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Yeah, the fact that San Francisco is a better city to be rich in probably has little to do with his decision. It probably helped, but ultimately he went there because they had a better basketball club.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:13
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Paul Zuvella posted:Yeah, the fact that San Francisco is a better city to be rich in probably has little to do with his decision. It probably helped, but ultimately he went there because they had a better basketball club. Right, I mean we had people fighting there way to Cleveland. City market doesn't mean a lot when you can spend your off-time wherever in the world you want to spend it. I'm not saying it has no weight in a decision, but it's pretty far down the list.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:19
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Chairchucker posted:Also I was trying to find out what that 'that's preposterous' quote was from and all I could find was this https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/212767135901024256?lang=en Yeah, that is the quote. It's one of the best all time tweets.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:20
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Stephen A. introduced me to the word "bloviate."
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Mar 21, 2017 19:21
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Lockback posted:Yeah, that is the quote. It's one of the best all time tweets. Oh OK I thought it was referencing a thing he actually said
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Mar 21, 2017 19:24
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Chairchucker posted:Oh OK I thought it was referencing a thing he actually said I mean, you have to listen to SAS on purpose to know, but the tone is so pitch perfect it may as well be a direct quote.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:28
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcJPJ7KpPqo
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Mar 21, 2017 19:38
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Jerry Krause died, which means MJ will be pissing on his grave in about two weeks
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Mar 21, 2017 19:44
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xbilkis posted:Jerry Krause died, which means MJ will be pissing on his grave in about two weeks wait what seriously.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:56
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-jerry-krause-obit-spt-0322-20170321-story.html Yup, looks real
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Mar 21, 2017 19:57
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Redgrendel2001 posted:Shirley Temple-flavored Jolly Ranchers. yes please. I think the team I actually hated the most as a kid was the Jordan Bulls. I remember playing a pickup game at recess where me and two kids were the "Lakers" vs like 14 kids who picked the bulls because that's how we decided to split it
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Mar 21, 2017 19:57
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Basketball Reference's MVP tracker (which just tries to predict likelihood based on priors) puts Wall at 10th. It doesn't automatically discount the players on the Warriors, though, which is happening in almost every conversation about the award. I don't really object to that, but it is funny. If everyone forgot Golden State's record last year and Kevin Durant's home last year he'd absolutely be in that top group of players.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:57
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Chairchucker posted:Also I was trying to find out what that 'that's preposterous' quote was from and all I could find was this https://twitter.com/david_j_roth/status/212767135901024256?lang=en it's the best tweet of all time and i laugh at it all the time. fun
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Mar 21, 2017 20:00
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Dexo posted:wait what seriously. Family member confirmed to the ChiTribune according to Woj.
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Mar 21, 2017 19:59
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Stagger_Lee posted:Basketball Reference's MVP tracker (which just tries to predict likelihood based on priors) puts Wall at 10th. It doesn't automatically discount the players on the Warriors, though, which is happening in almost every conversation about the award. I don't think a guy who only plays 59/82 games would win the MVP, especially if those games were missed at the end. If Durant didn't get hurt he'd for sure be in the conversation, even with the GSW headwind.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:05
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Yeah, that's right. Somehow forgot he was done for the regular season.
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Mar 21, 2017 20:26
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It's still baffling to me that the NBA moved a franchise from Seattle to Oklahoma City and that it made no sense for any reason other than nepotism and corruption in oil billionaires (and that one guy who obviously killed himself rather than face indictment). Like I don't even have a problem with Oklahoma City, I've been there a few times since I moved to the South, and I like it, but there's really no justification for moving a franchise from Seattle (one of the top cities in the United States) to there. It was like some kind of confluence of the NBA wanting to punish Seattle for the arena issues and finding a bunch of rich assholes who were willing to be the villains to steal the team? I don't know. Other than their poo poo logo and colors, the Thunder have been a great addition to the NBA over the last few years, but it still feels weird to have a city like Seattle not having a team (and I think KC and their super cool arena should get one too).
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