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mojo1701a posted:I still maintain that he wasn't bad. In a vacuum, he would've been just fine, but knowing who he replaced brings him down. Makes sense. It was worse for me because I didn't like Jon Lovitz to begin with. But I really softened on him when I learned that he beat up Andy Dick. gently caress Andy Dick, I fully believe that Jon was right when he said Andy was to blame for Phil's death.
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pnumoman posted:Makes sense. It was worse for me because I didn't like Jon Lovitz to begin with. But I really softened on him when I learned that he beat up Andy Dick. gently caress Andy Dick, I fully believe that Jon was right when he said Andy was to blame for Phil's death. I forgot about that story. Thanks for reminding me about the time Jon Lovitz showed his true, wonderful colors.  gently caress Andy Dick.
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The Mick is good watch it Kaitlyn fuckin owns
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I just read about the original dee thing. lovely situation but if I were involved in a project with a person who I was going through a nasty break-up with and no longer loved or even liked, while at the same time facing pressure to replace her for a chance at millions of dollars and a successful tv show, i'd probably do what Rob did. Maybe(probably) I'm weak. Also, Season 12 was okay enough, nowhere near the glory years(s2-s8) imo. While still a strong show worthy of watching, it is starting to get creatively stale and probably best for them to put it to bed for a year or two to work on other things. That way they they can come back refreshed with new ideas for the last era of the series. Personally I wouldn't mind a 2-3 year break then coming back for one last season and a movie to finish things off. Chromatic fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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pnumoman posted:Makes sense. It was worse for me because I didn't like Jon Lovitz to begin with. But I really softened on him when I learned that he beat up Andy Dick. gently caress Andy Dick, I fully believe that Jon was right when he said Andy was to blame for Phil's death. Wait, what? I thought Phil's wife went crazy or something and killed him in his sleep.
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Phenotype posted:Wait, what? I thought Phil's wife went crazy or something and killed him in his sleep. The story is that Brynn Hartman was a recovering addict/alcoholic, then Andy Dick got her back into it not long before she went on to murder-suicide Phil, and was found to have cocaine in her system LadyPictureShow fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 19, 2017 |
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LadyPictureShow posted:The story is that Bree(?) Hartman was off cocaine, then Andy Dick got her back into it not long before she went on to murder-suicide Phil. Yeah, Andy Dick brought cocaine to a Christmas party that they were hosting, and then Brynn went downhill from there. It would've ended there had Dick not run into Lovitz at a restaurant years ago, taunting him by putting "the Phil Hartman hex on you, you're the next to die." Lovitz then lost it and just started beating him up. I actually remember someone making a recursive Flash animated gif of Jay Sherman smashing Dick's face into a bar surface. Fake edit: I can't believe I found it: 
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mojo1701a posted:Fake edit: I can't believe I found it: Andy Dick is dressed like his character from Clone High, that's adorable. https://vimeo.com/13169503
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Well, I feel so old now; I was posting in the thread about that incident when it happened, and I remember when that was created. It's still beautiful.
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LadyPictureShow posted:The story is that Brynn Hartman was a recovering addict/alcoholic, then Andy Dick got her back into it not long before she went on to murder-suicide Phil, and was found to have cocaine in her system I heard this story years ago and to see it being thrown around as fact to this day is hilarious. Addiction doesn't work like that. Addicts are always addicts. You're always in recovery. No one can force you to relapse. She was 10 years sober and lost it. It's akin to blaming a drug dealer for someone's overdose. Andy Dick is an rear end in a top hat for sure, but he didn't kill Phil Hartman, nor did he have a hand in his death.
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bunky posted:I heard this story years ago and to see it being thrown around as fact to this day is hilarious. Addiction doesn't work like that. Addicts are always addicts. You're always in recovery. No one can force you to relapse. She was 10 years sober and lost it. It's akin to blaming a drug dealer for someone's overdose. Andy Dick is an rear end in a top hat for sure, but he didn't kill Phil Hartman, nor did he have a hand in his death. On it's own, sure, but the context of the fight was always the fact he brought it up to Lovitz. It's one thing to say "Well objectively it's not like he held her down and forced her to do cocaine", it's another to say that when he's joking that he got the guy killed to a close friend of the person. That's when you catch a beating and everyone cheers.
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bunky posted:I heard this story years ago and to see it being thrown around as fact to this day is hilarious. Addiction doesn't work like that. Addicts are always addicts. You're always in recovery. No one can force you to relapse. She was 10 years sober and lost it. It's akin to blaming a drug dealer for someone's overdose. Andy Dick is an rear end in a top hat for sure, but he didn't kill Phil Hartman, nor did he have a hand in his death. Force? No. Make it extremely easy to? Yes. Doesn't mean he's off the hook.
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Mulva posted:On it's own, sure, but the context of the fight was always the fact he brought it up to Lovitz. It's one thing to say "Well objectively it's not like he held her down and forced her to do cocaine", it's another to say that when he's joking that he got the guy killed to a close friend of the person. That's when you catch a beating and everyone cheers. Doesn't really sound like Dick was intending to be 'joking' but yeah, according to Lovitz himself he doesn't blame Dick for the murder anymore and instead it was just because AD was living up to his name: quote:Lovitz had joined the show, of which Dick was a co-star, after his friend Hartman was shot and killed by Hartman's wife, Brynn.
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I've been listening to the podcast him and Dino Stamatopoulos do and it's really interesting. It's sorta bad, but quite unique. I think Andy has the problem that he doesn't put a lot of effort into thinking about how his words and actions affect others, at least not in the short term. I don't think he should be let of the hook for lovely behaviour or anything, but I don't want to demonize him either. He's a hard guy to pin down.
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Andy Dick has a tendency to do things that piss people off and then complain later about the consequences he faces.
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Megaspel posted:I've been listening to the podcast him and Dino Stamatopoulos do and it's really interesting. It's sorta bad, but quite unique. I think Andy has the problem that he doesn't put a lot of effort into thinking about how his words and actions affect others, at least not in the short term. I don't think he should be let of the hook for lovely behaviour or anything, but I don't want to demonize him either. He's a hard guy to pin down. That sounds pretty easy to pin down, though? The type of person you are describing is an rear end in a top hat.
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ChesterJT posted:Force? No. Make it extremely easy to? Yes. Doesn't mean he's off the hook. Off the hook for what? Unless he threw a snowball of cocaine in her face she made a decision that night. People want a villain in the death of Phil Hartman and you don't need to search for it.
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bunky posted:Off the hook for what? Unless he threw a snowball of cocaine in her face she made a decision that night. People want a villain in the death of Phil Hartman and you don't need to search for it. A person who encourages someone else to commit suicide can be charged with involuntary manslaughter. Not to say it's quite the same, but it's fair to say Andy Dick has some responsibility.
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bunky posted:Off the hook for what? Unless he threw a snowball of cocaine in her face she made a decision that night. People want a villain in the death of Phil Hartman and you don't need to search for it. If someone is an alcoholic and you give them alcohol and they drink it and fall off the wagon, you don't get to pretend that none of it is your fault. Putting a vulnerable person in a dangerous situation is bad.
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Agronox posted:That sounds pretty easy to pin down, though? The type of person you are describing is an rear end in a top hat. I was making a sneaky little reference to a thing on the podcast there, I think he is an arsehole to people for sure.
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Cojawfee posted:If someone is an alcoholic and you give them alcohol and they drink it and fall off the wagon, you don't get to pretend that none of it is your fault. Putting a vulnerable person in a dangerous situation is bad. If someone is an alcoholic and have been sober for 10 years, they know how to avoid triggers and situations that might cause them to relapse. I'm sure a Hollywood party is not a good place for someone like that to be and she navigated that poo poo for a decade. "Giving" someone alcohol or drugs in an environment like that is a joke. It's everywhere. She relapsed, combined alcohol and drugs while on psych meds and killed Phil Hartman. Andy Dick is an rear end in a top hat, again, but he's not culpable. The fact that no one is as mad at Brynn for murder as they are at Andy for being a twat is mindblowing.
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bunky posted:If someone is an alcoholic and have been sober for 10 years, they know how to avoid triggers and situations that might cause them to relapse. I'm sure a Hollywood party is not a good place for someone like that to be and she navigated that poo poo for a decade. "Giving" someone alcohol or drugs in an environment like that is a joke. It's everywhere. She relapsed, combined alcohol and drugs while on psych meds and killed Phil Hartman. I was mad at her 20 years ago when I found out one of my favorite comedic actors was killed by his crazy wife. Now I'll be mad at Andy Dick for possibly being the catalyst.
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Telling someone that they're an addict if they haven't used drugs for 10 years is dumb. Are you fat if you lost loads of weight 10 years ago?
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You can easily tell when someone has never interacted with a true addict before. Give my dad one drink and even though he's been sober for 15 years he'd spiral right back to the bottom within weeks/months. It has happened before after his friends egged him on into "just having a drink or two once a week" with them. Some people just can't do things in moderation and are better off just avoiding it altogether. What does this have to do with always sunny though?
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hottubrhymemachine posted:Telling someone that they're an addict if they haven't used drugs for 10 years is dumb. Are you fat if you lost loads of weight 10 years ago? You're always in recovery after getting sober. Your doofy fat analogy doesn't work.
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Intervention! Intervention!
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bunky posted:You're always in recovery after getting sober. Your doofy fat analogy doesn't work. Well there's an accumulating body of evidence that suggests that it actually does apply, just in the exact opposite way hottubrhymemachine meant.
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PittTheElder posted:Well there's an accumulating body of evidence that suggests that it actually does apply, just in the exact opposite way hottubrhymemachine meant. That's another name like Stamatopoulos that I always have to copy paste from somewhere.
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yeah I eat rear end posted:You can easily tell when someone has never interacted with a true addict before. Give my dad one drink and even though he's been sober for 15 years he'd spiral right back to the bottom within weeks/months. It has happened before after his friends egged him on into "just having a drink or two once a week" with them. Some people just can't do things in moderation and are better off just avoiding it altogether. There is apparently someone who like Andy Dick and must defend his honor.
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Agronox posted:Intervention! Intervention! A roast? I've always wanted to be roasted!
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CharlestheHammer posted:There is apparently someone who like Andy Dick and must defend his honor. JON LOVITZ, GET MY BACK! PLEASE! I NEED YOU!!
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yeah I eat rear end posted:
I think because convo got to the point of discussing how different filming styles can change the format of a sit com. Phil Hartman came up when that last show he was on came up (News Radio or whatever). Someone else brought up, too, that Titus's brother was Crickets brother this season. I noticed it too and it added some extra enjoyment to the episode.
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The Sean posted:I think because convo got to the point of discussing how different filming styles can change the format of a sit com. Phil Hartman came up when that last show he was on came up (News Radio or whatever). I was the one that brought up both Titus' brother and Jon Lovitz being decent. But rather than admit guilt, I am invoking my right to the Cereal Defence!
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Someone go download me a hoagie off the internet.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Someone go download me a hoagie off the internet. I'm sorry? Those words don't make any sense.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Someone go download me a hoagie off the internet. BUG!
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Someone go download me a hoagie off the internet. Maybe after 3D printers get popular we can start buying flavor packets from the store and print up plastic that tastes like real food. Eating flavored plastic would probably be better than most of our diets anyway. Edit - Lets see how off topic we can get this thread by the time they air Season 13. SLICK GOKU BABY fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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I've known about the "original Sweet Dee" thing for a while but I literally just learned that they filmed multiple versions of the bird scene:
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Cockblocktopus posted:I've known about the "original Sweet Dee" thing for a while but I literally just learned that they filmed multiple versions of the bird scene: Why are you just posting a picture of Kaitlin Olson?
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