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beep by grandpa posted:No, I don't see what you meant. Add "but I don't mind it" to the last comment and it's all the clarification I care to do.
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Dias posted:See what I meant? Not worth discussing. Move on. Vermain posted:It is incredibly important to the overall themes of the game, and the game would've been worse without the character designs it does have. This, honestly. There's a reason that 2B is somewhat sexualized in a game where she will actively knock the camera away if you try to do a creep shot and where she constantly tells a male character trying to get close to her that emotions are prohibited
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Well it's been a while since I was the one who inadvertently opened a can of worms on here. Surprised there isn't a frilly lace parasol skin for the Pod though, given the YoRHa uniform requirements. Maybe top brass is run by someone who found a stash of pre-war Rozen Maiden comics and thought "THAT'S THE LOOK!" edit: RazzleDazzleHour posted:This, honestly. There's a reason that 2B is somewhat sexualized in a game where she will actively knock the camera away if you try to do a creep shot  what
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And considering Simone, the opera boss and her backstory, and then the visual difference between 2B and another similar character later, I feel like it's included in the themes of the game.
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Mar 23, 2017 03:51
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RazzleDazzleHour posted:This, honestly. There's a reason that 2B is somewhat sexualized Yeah Yoko Taro like big asses and admits to being a pervert.
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All of you are loving wrong in liking the thing but save your breath because it's not like any of you have anything worthwhile to say on the topic anyways.
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Hexenritter posted:Well it's been a while since I was the one who inadvertently opened a can of worms on here. That wasn't inadvertent as much as it was "maybe it's out of the system by now". I'm stupid, but not stupid enough to engage in a discussion leading nowhere.
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Jack Trades posted:All of you are loving wrong in liking the thing but save your breath because it's not like any of you have anything worthwhile to say on the topic anyways. I mean he isn't wrong.
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Hexenritter posted:Well it's been a while since I was the one who inadvertently opened a can of worms on here. It's an understandably contentious topic. I feel like I ought to just write up a big ol' post discussing the game's themes/ideas surrounding sex, love, and violence, because it is easy to assume the outfits are just cheesecake pandering on a casual glance. It's only once you start getting near the end of route B that you get a broad enough picture to understand how the character design fits into the larger narrative.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean he isn't wrong. See what I meant? Not worth discussing. Move on. It's just a series of "but ~I~ think he isn't wrong" and that's garbage, I shouldn't even have mentioned it. Sorry.
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Vermain posted:It's an understandably contentious topic. I feel like I ought to just write up a big ol' post discussing the game's themes/ideas surrounding sex, love, and violence, because it is easy to assume the outfits are just cheesecake pandering on a casual glance. It's only once you start getting near the end of route B that you get a broad enough picture to understand how the character design fits into the larger narrative. Nah dude you just want to **** 2B
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Jack Trades posted:See what I meant? Not worth discussing. Move on. Agreed especially when the creator has said why he did it, it's just pointless justification.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Agreed especially when the creator has said why he did it, it's just pointless justification. Bad news: the creator is dead. All that remains of Yoko Taro is the work in front of us.
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Dias posted:That wasn't inadvertent as much as it was "maybe it's out of the system by now". I'm stupid, but not stupid enough to engage in a discussion leading nowhere. Fair point, and in hindsight my post does sort of look bait-y. I just happen to like the aesthetic and I have no idea how it apparently fits into the overall narrative unless the overall narrative is "the only surviving humans were the employees and families of a sexbot factory on the moon." Vermain posted:It's an understandably contentious topic. I feel like I ought to just write up a big ol' post discussing the game's themes/ideas surrounding sex, love, and violence, because it is easy to assume the outfits are just cheesecake pandering on a casual glance. It's only once you start getting near the end of route B that you get a broad enough picture to understand how the character design fits into the larger narrative. I'm curious to see how it all fits in and ties together and also intrigued and fascinated by how many people have been afflicted by sadbrains by the game in the few pages of this thread I've read.
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King of Solomon posted:I just finished Ending E. I have one question at this point: So, if you choose not to salvage the memories (or give up when you gently caress up), does that delete your save like it did in Nier 1? Does anyone have an answer to my question? It got lost in the other discussions
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Dias posted:I shouldn't even have mentioned it. Sorry. apology accepted
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King of Solomon posted:Does anyone have an answer to my question? It got lost in the other discussions I don't think many would do that instead of the other, more obvious path to more content, which is why nobody has replied, I guess.
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Vermain posted:It's an understandably contentious topic. I feel like I ought to just write up a big ol' post discussing the game's themes/ideas surrounding sex, love, and violence, because it is easy to assume the outfits are just cheesecake pandering on a casual glance. It's only once you start getting near the end of route B that you get a broad enough picture to understand how the character design fits into the larger narrative. This is all I'll say about the subject, because the reason WHY I don't wanna engage is exactly this "but you missed ~the themes~" conversation and nah, I really didn't. I just think everything the game could have achieved doesn't necessitate BOTH main female characters - and actually just them - to be scantily clad. I think the game hits on those themes just fine even if you ignore the costumes, and I think them conversations about "we wanted boobs but the other guy wanted rear end so..." aren't as tongue-in-cheek as people pretend it is. I also think this leads to derails where no one is gonna change opinions on the topic, and the costumes really didn't bother me that much. It's just a quirk that I had to get over. edit: add a short underneath 2B's skirt and you hit all them points still because it's okay to like goth loli fashion, really.
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I feel like this is what got a lot of people to even get this game.
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Dias posted:This is all I'll say about the subject, because the reason WHY I don't wanna engage is exactly this "but you missed ~the themes~" conversation and nah, I really didn't. What are the core themes and ideas of Nier: Automata, in your view?
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King of Solomon posted:Does anyone have an answer to my question? It got lost in the other discussions it kicks you back to the title screen like it did after the first ending you reached at that point, it doesn't do anything to your save aside from adding another ending letter (C or D) to it if you don't already have it.
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Vermain posted:What are the core themes and ideas of Nier: Automata, in your view? 2Butt or not 2Butt.
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Dias posted:This is all I'll say about the subject, because the reason WHY I don't wanna engage is exactly this "but you missed ~the themes~" conversation and nah, I really didn't. I just think everything the game could have achieved doesn't necessitate BOTH main female characters - and actually just them - to be scantily clad. I think the game hits on those themes just fine even if you ignore the costumes, and I think them conversations about "we wanted boobs but the other guy wanted rear end so..." aren't as tongue-in-cheek as people pretend it is. I also think this leads to derails where no one is gonna change opinions on the topic, and the costumes really didn't bother me that much. It's just a quirk that I had to get over. Wait do people really believe Taro is lying? He is a rather straightforward dude.
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The butt is good for those who can either lol, move past, or enjoy it. I dig it but am also a pervert so w/e Is bad for people who feel some odd reason that looking at a group of pixels arranged into an rear end is an affront to them. That's why the camera goes so low by default! That's why the camera is so low! What about A2? She is literally skintight booty shorts with her gstring pulled high. Which is also good
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Vermain posted:What are the core themes and ideas of Nier: Automata, in your view? that i miss gary busey
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lets hang out posted:it kicks you back to the title screen like it did after the first ending you reached at that point, it doesn't do anything to your save aside from adding another ending letter (C or D) to it if you don't already have it. Well, that's boring, but I guess it would be pretty rude if it did delete your save. 
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verbal enema posted:The butt is good for those who can either lol, move past, or enjoy it. I dig it but am also a pervert so w/e For some odd reason, lol
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Dias posted:This is all I'll say about the subject, because the reason WHY I don't wanna engage is exactly this "but you missed ~the themes~" conversation and nah, I really didn't. I just think everything the game could have achieved doesn't necessitate BOTH main female characters - and actually just them - to be scantily clad. I think the game hits on those themes just fine even if you ignore the costumes, and I think them conversations about "we wanted boobs but the other guy wanted rear end so..." aren't as tongue-in-cheek as people pretend it is. I also think this leads to derails where no one is gonna change opinions on the topic, and the costumes really didn't bother me that much. It's just a quirk that I had to get over. You can get 9S to take his pants off too,if that makes it any better? Anyway, some route B stuff; So the factory is the junk heap from the first game, right? And that god that you see the cut-away to when you first go to the housing complex, was that beepy? Or does that get explained?
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verbal enema posted:What about A2? She is literally skintight booty shorts with her gstring pulled high. To be fair I don't think A2 is wearing any clothes at all? Or more specifically it seems like she's wearing a quarter of an burned apron and rest of the "clothes" are just painted/grafted on. Nuebot posted:You can get 9S to take his pants off too,if that makes it any better? YOU CAN?!
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I bought some of the more tedious trophies (gently caress fishing), but a platinum is a platinum, and ending E by painstakingly deleting the evidence of my experience for the purpose of helping someone else is just perfect. What a great game.
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CharlestheHammer posted:For some odd reason, lol Oh no an rear end! This is affecting myself as an adult! I suffer nothing from this but the simple thought THAT SOMEWHERE someone got a boner over it ahhh!No!Help!
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Jack Trades posted:To be fair I don't think A2 is wearing any clothes at all? There is actually an achievement for that, to be fair.
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I think I liked the designs of all the characters in the game. Especially Eve's half-tatted form.
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Well, there ya go. CharlestheHammer posted:Wait do people really believe Taro is lying? He is a rather straightforward dude. Yoko Taro is a clever, pretty sincere and kinda broken dude. I think that's how everyone should read him. Also Drakengard 3 did the sex thing better.
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Jack Trades posted:To be fair I don't think A2 is wearing any clothes at all? 2B's leggings do actually affect her model so yeah that seems accurate.
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verbal enema posted:Oh no an rear end! This is affecting myself as an adult! I suffer nothing from this but the simple thought THAT SOMEWHERE someone got a boner over it ahhh!No!Help! Lol, my dude go outside
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Jack Trades posted:To be fair I don't think A2 is wearing any clothes at all? A2 literally wears painted on lingerie, but I'm not sure that it's worse than the other standard YoRHa fetish gear
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I'm not writing an essay on themes I just think it's a cool design, but seeing the human form doesn't make me uncomfortable. We are beautiful creatures designed by god of course. But I also thought every Raiden design (MGS2 > MGS4 > MGR:R) got progressively cooler and cooler which is prob a much more goon-harmful opinion 
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