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Game genres can be really tough to define in neat packages. So many transcend the normal rules we would define that I love it and the depth which video games can have.
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Really when you think about it all games are RTS games
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Mar 23, 2017 15:08
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yeah for instance my real time strategy for dragon age inquisition is: turn this off as soon as possible
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Mar 23, 2017 15:09
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Serf posted:Really when you think about it all games are RTS games Whoa...
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Mar 23, 2017 15:09
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VideoGames posted:Game genres can be really tough to define in neat packages. These are confusions that only 30-year old men on the internet can have, meanwhile thine 10-year old self could look at any modern game and say "Oh, that's X" and be right 100% of the time.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:11
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You play a role if every game, my favorite Christmas movie is Die Hard and I don't even think the driveway/parkway dichotomy is that crazy.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:12
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Help Im Alive posted:The best RTS is actually Pikmin Actually it's Men of War
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Mar 23, 2017 15:13
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Its C&C red alert
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Mar 23, 2017 15:14
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I already told you it's pikmin
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Mar 23, 2017 15:17
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The Pikmin short animations also owned
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Mar 23, 2017 15:20
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exquisite tea posted:These are confusions that only 30-year old men on the internet can have, meanwhile thine 10-year old self could look at any modern game and say "Oh, that's X" and be right 100% of the time. We grow up too fast.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:27
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I do not remember that.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:29
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im a 30 year old man on the internet and im still right about everything 100% of the time
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Mar 23, 2017 15:30
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There are some genre-defying games but XCOM isn't one of them and those other games are pretty rare and 90% of them only feature some borrowed mechanics and gimmicks. What is the main thing you spend your time on in the game? That's its genre, it's really not that confusing. Games that truly successfuly blend different genres usually start defining a new genre (like mobas). Games (especially the mainstream ones) are way more limited by genres than what is happening in other media which is the actually interesting thing to confront instead of going 'woah, AC: Revelations features a moba minigame, now you can't define it'. There really isn't some incredible genre-defying world of games out there just waiting to be discovered. Sadly.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:32
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Palpek posted:There are some genre-defying games but XCOM isn't one of them and those other games are pretty rare and 90% of them only feature some borrowed mechanics and gimmicks. What is the main thing you spend your time on in the game? That's its genre, it's really not that confusing.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:42
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Endorph posted:alright, mass effect is a dating sim. glad we've sorted that out You're not wrong though.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:46
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All game genres are actually just Doom with certain elements added or taken away.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:46
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Xcom has two discrete game modes which are themselves pretty easy to identify. The combat is straight up turn-based tactics. The planet view is real-time base building and threat management. You don't move between the two modes at will any time; you do one until you have to do the other. It's kind of like two games in one rather than a blend of genres. Total War is interestingly an inverse. The two discrete game modes are a turn-based base-building and threat management with a Risk-like map and real-time tactics combat. Similarly, I'd say it's also two games in one instead of a blend of genres.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:50
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VideoGames posted:Game genres can be really tough to define in neat packages. Yeah, that's why I love early games that tried weird hybrid experimentation, like Live a Live or Hybrid Heaven or Actraiser. It's funny though that certain genres only became defined by removing hybrid elements. A loooot of old games used to be "fighting games" but incorporated platformer elements that didn't mix well at all. It took until Street Fighter for devs to realize people would buy a game that was just the boss battles in those games. I mean yeah there are technically some 1v1 fighters that came before it, but they worked so drat weird. It's interesting to see how an entire genre came to be formed through experimentation.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:50
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Endorph posted:alright, mass effect is a dating sim. glad we've sorted that out Is it a dating sim with a combat mini game or a combat game with a dating sim minigame? Maybe the people treating it like one over the other are enjoying it more.
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Mar 23, 2017 15:51
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The best RPGs for me are just collections of minigames
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Mar 23, 2017 15:53
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All video games are good regardless of genre classifications. Smoke weed, play games, that's about all you need to do.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:15
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Any game genre that doesn't end in "-em-up" is not a valid genre.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:16
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:All video games are good regardless of genre classifications. Also this post is perfect as well. In addition to my post.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:17
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:All video games are good regardless of genre classifications. There are bad video games I mean I can't think of any but there must be at least...5 bad video games out there somewhere
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Mar 23, 2017 16:19
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Someone (rope kid maybe?) once posted in YCS a good rant about how the term RPG is a totally inaccurate label for what you actually do in those games and how we should make up a new label for character evolution games and apply the "role-playing" label to wide-open freeform sandboxes like Hitman. Always kinda regretted not saving it somewhere.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:19
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codenameFANGIO posted:Any game genre that doesn't end in "-em-up" is not a valid genre. Role-play-em-up Real-time-strategy-em-up Character-action-em-up Date-em-up Works.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:20
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bloodychill posted:Role-play-em-up Platformers are now Jump-em-ups  Also Jumping Flash is the best doom clone.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:22
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Oh right, Pikmin, I guess I really should buy a Wii U. In terms of RTS games I am hopeful for Dawn of War III
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Mar 23, 2017 16:24
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If you think a game you played wasn't good it only means you weren't young enough when experiencing it.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:26
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haveblue posted:Someone (rope kid maybe?) once posted in YCS a good rant about how the term RPG is a totally inaccurate label for what you actually do in those games and how we should make up a new label for character evolution games and apply the "role-playing" label to wide-open freeform sandboxes like Hitman. Always kinda regretted not saving it somewhere. Well sure, the term doesn't really mean anything and never really has in video games, but it came about because people needed a shorthand to say "this game is ripping off donjons and dragons really blatantly" when Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy came out. bloodychill posted:Role-play-em-up I heard someone call Helldivers a "strat-em-up" and that's such an accurate term for the game.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:27
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Just kidding because holy poo poo there are some bad games out there but it sounded observant enough to seem wise so I posted it.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:27
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haveblue posted:Someone (rope kid maybe?) once posted in YCS a good rant about how the term RPG is a totally inaccurate label for what you actually do in those games and how we should make up a new label for character evolution games and apply the "role-playing" label to wide-open freeform sandboxes like Hitman. Always kinda regretted not saving it somewhere. rpg owns as a term because its a great example of how language evolves based on common usage and not exact definitions and hey how come they call it reality tv??
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Mar 23, 2017 16:28
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Palpek posted:Just kidding because holy poo poo there are some bad games out there but it sounded observant enough to seem wise so I posted it. Name even a single bad video game, I dare you
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Mar 23, 2017 16:29
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 MOBA
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Mar 23, 2017 16:30
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Help Im Alive posted:Name even a single bad video game, I dare you Godzilla 2015 is the mendoza line for bad. If its less fun than that its trash if its the same amount of its still trash but maybe somebody needs it.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:31
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MMF Freeway posted:rpg owns as a term because its a great example of how language evolves based on common usage and not exact definitions and hey how come they call it reality tv?? At this point I suspect there's a significant minority of gamers who don't actually know what "RPG" stands for and just know it means "game where you gain levels and skills and get stronger and stuff."
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Mar 23, 2017 16:32
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Galactic Civilizations II: The Dread Lords American McGee's Bad Day LA* *I was gonna just say "Bad Day LA", but then I had a sudden memory and realized its "title" is so much worse The best RTS is Command & Conquer: Red Alert 2: Yuri's Revenge edit: ^ Got in an argument on reddit with some kid who said that Witcher 3 wasn't really an RPG and being able to make role-playing choices interacting with other characters isn't roleplaying.
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Mar 23, 2017 16:32
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Lakbay posted:
MOBAs are good games. They're good at taking over the parts of your brain responsible for empathy and patience and replacing it with jungling strats.
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Oh I meant the vitriol about MOBA being a genre when the word was being first thrown around. Like someone would fly into a rage if you called something a MOBA
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