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I like when people are angry at each other and yell. They talk in their loud voices and say things like "gently caress you!!" Maybe someone gets stabbed in the throat and while they're bleeding they have this look on their face like they can't believe they've been betrayed. Sometime later somebody in the episode talks about doing anal.
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also I think westworld might suffer from being multiple seasons. I think season 1 should have been the end with dolores getting or failing at attaining sentience. all the poignancy feels robbed now that we have a future season 2 of "robot murder rebellion/now the guests are trapped (we're so clever)".
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Mar 23, 2017 17:54
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Who didn't see a robot murder rebellion happening I mean come on. The only surprise is that it took 10 episodes to get there.
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Mar 23, 2017 17:55
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Holy poo poo that character just got stabbed in the throat in a horrible betrayal, if they don't hang on for life and stop the bleeding they may be completely fine with at best a vague memory of the incident 10 minutes later in the show
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Zmej posted:also I think westworld might suffer from being multiple seasons. I think season 1 should have been the end with dolores getting or failing at attaining sentience. all the poignancy feels robbed now that we have a future season 2 of "robot murder rebellion/now the guests are trapped (we're so clever)". That too, for a 10-hour show everything in the first season feels really rushed. They really could've kept the mystery elements of the show at a low hum for the first couple episodes while they had some fun with the concept of the park and its employees, but instead they seemed so impatient to get to the robot uprising that they just sprinted right through the setup to get to the ball-numbing "oh my GOD did you hear that it turned out that Herbie was a robot and so was Jimbo the Janitor???? I read an article about it!" bullshit
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Man vs Nature Man vs Man Man vs Himself Seriously if you want to talk about what makes good conflict in a story you probably shouldn't exclude 2/3rds of the possibilities.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:13
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I generally had a good time with the show (it got a little silly but the whole concept was silly from the start - I can't imagine getting worked up about it either way) but two characters stuck out as particularly bad and made the show notably worse imo. One was that really-angry-for-no-reason white dude who was in charge of repairing the robots. He was always yelling at the Asian guy and I don't know why. He was probably the worst actor too. Liam McPoyle's brother-in-law was excessively assholish for seemingly no reason too. Those two felt like they were from another show entirely - something on the CW or SyFy, maybe. Just really shallow characters and tonally off.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:15
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Dmitri-9 posted:Man vs Nature You forgot Man vs. Robot
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Dmitri-9 posted:Man vs Nature Man vs. Food as well I honed in on this one kind of conflict because it is almost completely absent in the show. It's not the only way in, but it's definitely one that the show could've used. Any one of the ostensibly human characters could've gotten killed at any time and no one on the planet would've noticed or cared. Compare this to every time someone catches a bullet on The Wire, it's something important that causes other characters to react or, you know, actually do something for once
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They are robots. They can't feel things, just do what they're programmed to do. The whole premise is really flawed.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:26
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I see we've settled nicely into the "No You Idiots It Was Never Good" phase for critically acclaimed and audience beloved Westworld. Can't wait for Phase 3: Actually No It Was Really Was Awesome I Totally Forgot HaHa How Silly Of Me (due to arrive roughly when a season 2 teaser comes out)
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Mar 23, 2017 18:27
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powerful sex moves posted:I generally had a good time with the show (it got a little silly but the whole concept was silly from the start - I can't imagine getting worked up about it either way) but two characters stuck out as particularly bad and made the show notably worse imo. One was that really-angry-for-no-reason white dude who was in charge of repairing the robots. He was always yelling at the Asian guy and I don't know why. He was probably the worst actor too. Liam McPoyle's brother-in-law was excessively assholish for seemingly no reason too. Those two felt like they were from another show entirely - something on the CW or SyFy, maybe. Just really shallow characters and tonally off. "It is the way one treats his inferiors more than the way he treats his equals which reveals one’s real character." They are the griefers of this viddeogabe. When you take consequences from some people they act like assholes because they are assholes.
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Paladinus posted:They are robots. They can't feel things, just do what they're programmed to do. The whole premise is really flawed. Yeah, I'm talking more about the horny malcontents that run the park. Their stuff kind of needed to be more fleshed out to make up for the robots having Finding Dory-level short term memory
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priznat posted:Who didn't see a robot murder rebellion happening I mean come on. The only surprise is that it took 10 episodes to get there. Yeah, it only took a bit over an hour in the 70's movie. 
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powerful sex moves posted:I generally had a good time with the show (it got a little silly but the whole concept was silly from the start - I can't imagine getting worked up about it either way) but two characters stuck out as particularly bad and made the show notably worse imo. One was that really-angry-for-no-reason white dude who was in charge of repairing the robots. He was always yelling at the Asian guy and I don't know why. He was probably the worst actor too. Liam McPoyle's brother-in-law was excessively assholish for seemingly no reason too. Those two felt like they were from another show entirely - something on the CW or SyFy, maybe. Just really shallow characters and tonally off. Right, these were the two worst offenders I think, especially beardo technician guy. The show's writers seemed to have this idea that the base-level interaction for any two characters should be fighting all the time or trying to get each other fired. Their poo poo should've been more "gently caress, do I cover for my friend who's doing shady and potentially dangerous stuff or do I turn him in to protect myself?" Instead, essentially immediately beardo's like "I'M TELLING OUR BOSS ABOUT THIS," as though he was just waiting for the first excuse to do it. Which immediately destroys any narrative tension that could've been mined from that problem and relationship.
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Mar 23, 2017 18:38
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FrensaGeran posted:I see we've settled nicely into the "No You Idiots It Was Never Good" phase for critically acclaimed and audience beloved Westworld. Goons never change.
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Squashing Machine posted:Man vs. Food as well Marlo killed a hundred nobodies without the newspapers or police brass noticing, walked away scott free and still couldn't resist the urge to be a street rat. Inaction is as much a part of the Wire as action is.
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Do you people never go to the movies and just watch TV all the time? Plz discuss current movies 
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RLM has made movies obsolete though?? I saw two movies over the span of the last 12 months. R1 and Arrival. I saw R1 before the half in the bag came out and saw Arrival after. If I had waited I would not have had to have seen R1. Sometimes RLM will tell me all about a good movie and show me scenes and tell me why it was good to the point that I don't even need to see it to enjoy it! It also helps me avoid bad movies (90% of them).
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FrensaGeran posted:I see we've settled nicely into the "No You Idiots It Was Never Good" phase for critically acclaimed and audience beloved Westworld. What is more goonish Complaining about vaguely popular things Or thinking that mindlessly echoing the popular opinion makes you mature and cool, unlike the dumb goons who are stupid because they don't like the same things as me and the blokes and everybody else
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Mar 23, 2017 19:03
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It's the first one, the complaining one.
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steinrokkan posted:What is more goonish vaguely popular, lol.
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The Arrival was kinda dumb  edit: I previously defended Independence Day: Resurgence and do not regret that decision. Also Westworld is good even though people seem to be sperging out here about how characters are killed when they can't actually die so they goonishly take offense at this somehow
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Do you people never go to the movies and just watch TV all the time? I don't watch any pleb "TV" or "movies". I just form my pop culture opinions based on what the gang say. Saves a lot of time.
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Mr. F! posted:vaguely popular, lol. At least he didn't use the word "hivemind"
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Do you people never go to the movies and just watch TV all the time? cinema is a dying medium
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Dmitri-9 posted:cinema is a dying medium With all the merchandising out there I'm wondering if movies are turning into an excuse to tack on product tie-ins. It's nothing new, but I'm beginning to think every blockbuster/family film/superhero movie has a McDonald's toy ready before their release date.
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Dmitri-9 posted:cinema is a dying medium Yeah for sure. I fuckkng hate this trend of everything going to Netflix. Gimme the cinema any day. As soon as Daniel Day Lewis appears in a HBO show or Netflix movie, it's game over.
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vermin posted:With all the merchandising out there I'm wondering if movies are turning into an excuse to tack on product tie-ins. It's nothing new, but I'm beginning to think every blockbuster/family film/superhero movie has a McDonald's toy ready before their release date. are turning into? you dont remember the 80's do you
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vermin posted:With all the merchandising out there I'm wondering if movies are turning into an excuse to tack on product tie-ins. It's nothing new, but I'm beginning to think every blockbuster/family film/superhero movie has a McDonald's toy ready before their release date. That's an old problem. The Joel Schumacher Batmans grossed $X million but the real draw was the toys raking in $X billion decoupling quality from profitability.
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I just saw a trailer for Baywatch, the Rock is cool & good so it looks funny
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Yeah for sure. I fuckkng hate this trend of everything going to Netflix. Scorsese and Spielberg are both 70 pretty soon it'll just be PT Anderson to keep him in films. I just looked it up and Meryl Streep is doing her own prestige TV show with JJ Abrams.
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Speaking of remakes, anime, and Netflix. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS9UW2xjdqE
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Paladinus posted:Speaking of remakes, anime, and Netflix. I'm really hoping that's Willem Dafoe I heard at the end. He'd be perfect to play a bug-eyed demon.
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Mr. F! posted:vaguely popular, lol. The most viewed episode had audience of 2M. That's 1/5 of GoT, for comparison.
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Did Mike and Jay do a shill review of West world or are you idiots from TVIV?
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Quantum of Phallus posted:I dunno if they'll review it but I saw Life yesterday and it was insanely generic sci-fi stuff. Imagine the plot of Alien but with the cinematography of Gravity and that's pretty much all there is to it. I thought it looked like a cheap new-age Alien wannabe from the trailer, i'm a sucker for Gyllenhaal though. Wtf is up with these generic sci-fi movies lately like Passengers & Life? I feel like space sci-fi movies were somewhat rare up until Interstellar / Gravity, and now we're getting multiple sci-fi stories in space every year. I guess this is going to be the new hollywood fad for the next few years.
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Snatch Duster posted:Did Mike and Jay do a shill review of West world or are you idiots from TVIV? They did a review of it. They LOVED it
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Space Crabs posted:The Arrival was kinda dumb Go watch John Wick, both of them. Independence Day:R was an enjoyable pew pew kill aliens movie if you excised all the CCP propaganda. It was fascinating to see a character inserted to be a propaganda piece done so blatantly in a western movie that if cut would improve the movie without causing any collateral damage. It was more ridiculous than "Product placement doctors" saving Tony Stark.
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