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TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
or just how do you turn off the voip ffs

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BattleSausage
Aug 14, 2003

I'm butter side up, baby.

Taco Defender

Pattonesque posted:

Interesting non-psychotic thread about the animation problems from a current Naughty Dog/former ME animator (will just put the first tweet here)

https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/844961601732018176

I have learned that in DAI people were posing, raging, and angry maging a lot.

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




Pattonesque posted:

Interesting non-psychotic thread about the animation problems from a current Naughty Dog/former ME animator (will just put the first tweet here)

https://twitter.com/GameAnim/status/844961601732018176

Wait were people watching the credits, noting the animators, and then harassing them online? What on earth is wrong with gamers

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde
Like I'm gonna listen to the opinion of some Random rear end in a top hat on the internet :rolleyes:

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


Bud K ninja sword posted:

or just how do you turn off the voip ffs

The (default) disabled setting is broken, you need to set it to push to talk.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Hobo Clown posted:

Wait were people watching the credits, noting the animators, and then harassing them online? What on earth is wrong with gamers

No. That person claimed to be a lead animator and put it on LinkedIn or something, even though they actually weren't lead animator (according to the credits and Bioware.)

Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Hobo Clown posted:

Wait were people watching the credits, noting the animators, and then harassing them online? What on earth is wrong with gamers

Woah woah woah. Not all the Animators...Just the ones with names that sound either female or brownish.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I think I figured out what the mysterious "thing Mass Effect does that you can't get anywhere else" is and that is Mass Effect games are Star Trek with better action and you get to be the captain and gently caress Worf

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Hobo Clown posted:

Wait were people watching the credits, noting the animators, and then harassing them online? What on earth is wrong with gamers

Lots of idiot assholes with no sense of perspective in the world.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

gmq posted:

The (default) disabled setting is broken, you need to set it to push to talk.

thank you!

drat mouthbreathers need to just murder badguys not talk.

lunar detritus
May 6, 2009


Bud K ninja sword posted:

thank you!

drat mouthbreathers need to just murder badguys not talk.

But that'll only turn off _your_ mic, not everyone else with the same problem. :v:

Lollerich
Mar 25, 2004

The little doctors are back,
they want to play with you!
So, I need to take down an architect(?) on Voeld. Unfortunately it's in a level 2 hazard zone so there is basically no chance of doing that. I've already started the terraformer and I have 100% Viability on that Planet. Since then I've been away doing other missions for maybe 8 hours and even found another arc. At which point do the hazard zones disappear? What triggers it?

Lemon King
Oct 4, 2009

im nt posting wif a mark on my head

TERRIBLE SHITLORD posted:

Good lord the AI pathing in this game is atrocious. Your teammates just weave aimlessly around you.

This is the best example I could capture so far. Warning: There are spoilers in the video for the first couple of hours gameplay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgHV8qKd_Qk

She's following a navmesh way to strictly in that clip.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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This game is loving massive by the way. I've been playing for 2 days now and am still on the ice world and have yet to revisit Eos at all

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

gmq posted:

But that'll only turn off _your_ mic, not everyone else with the same problem. :v:

you can turn it all the way down in origin :aaaaa:

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Fojar38 posted:

I think I figured out what the mysterious "thing Mass Effect does that you can't get anywhere else" is and that is Mass Effect games are Star Trek with better action and you get to be the captain and gently caress Worf

yeah pretty much. it was original enough that the species's and factions/story were cool even if parts were taken from other sci-fi stuff. new one feels very new trek, with both the good and the bad.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Fojar38 posted:

This game is loving massive by the way. I've been playing for 2 days now and am still on the ice world and have yet to revisit Eos at all

This, so much. I legitimately don't think the streamer guy who beat the game in 21 hours actually did any sidequests at all, I think I was at 6 hours just from the tutorial area and meeting the Nexus people. Pretty sure I've hit 21 hours in single player already and I'm just about to land on my second planet, and there are like four quests on Eos I could have done before leaving (and a few more I can do now that the radiation is down)

How do you get up on the cliff to bury the guy's dog tags on Eos? I tried for like an hour and just gave up.

Serf
May 5, 2011


This may well be the biggest game Bioware has ever made, but some people are finally starting to catch on to the idea that bigger doesn't always work. Some genres, sure. But RPGs are one area where bigger and bigger games suffer from not having enough attention to detail and polish.

wjs5
Aug 22, 2009

BattleSausage posted:

As much of a moron that releases a game with graphics settings that cannot be changed.

My mute button works, and I can change graphics settings.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Serf posted:

This may well be the biggest game Bioware has ever made, but some people are finally starting to catch on to the idea that bigger doesn't always work. Some genres, sure. But RPGs are one area where bigger and bigger games suffer from not having enough attention to detail and polish.

I would call it a classical RPG in the sense that there's a large open world scattered with questgivers and a big main quest chain that dominates all the others. People call this "MMO-like" nowadays but it was the way non-JRPG's operated for a long long time and ME:A and DA:I are returns to form in that regard.

Personally, I think ME:A is better than DA:I and that's honestly the best comparison. If you liked DA:I you'll probably like ME:A, and conversely if you hated DA:I you probably won't like ME:A.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Hobo Clown posted:

Wait were people watching the credits, noting the animators, and then harassing them online? What on earth is wrong with gamers

oh yea were gamers being weird shrieking babies about something? That's so weird and unheard of.

Promethium
Dec 31, 2009
Dinosaur Gum

precision posted:

How do you get up on the cliff to bury the guy's dog tags on Eos? I tried for like an hour and just gave up.

From Site 1 where you first land on Eos, take the Nomad up to the little hollow niche beneath that cliff (IIRC slightly to the right if you're looking up at the cliffside, it's just past where the scavenger's shuttle is parked), then get out on foot and jump jet up. (edit: I assume that's the brother's pendant quest and not some other quest that I haven't come across.)

Promethium fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 23, 2017

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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By the way the game is slowly winning me over to the "We're in Andromeda" stuff, mostly via the fact that there are a lot of hints that Cerberus was involved in planning and funding the mission, and if the arks departed around the time of ME2 it can easily be interpreted as an "ensure galactic civilization (especially humanity) survives in the event that the Reapers invade and win" operation. Hell it even fits with the modus operandi Cerberus was using in ME2, complete with a former Alliance N7 operative leading the operation

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Dexo posted:

Woah woah woah. Not all the Animators...Just the ones with names that sound either female or brownish.

lord help if your name sounds female AND brownish

Fojar38 posted:

I think I figured out what the mysterious "thing Mass Effect does that you can't get anywhere else" is and that is Mass Effect games are Star Trek with better action and you get to be the captain and gently caress Worf

Pretty much yeah, mass effect has always been DS9, but better, to me

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Serf posted:

This may well be the biggest game Bioware has ever made, but some people are finally starting to catch on to the idea that bigger doesn't always work. Some genres, sure. But RPGs are one area where bigger and bigger games suffer from not having enough attention to detail and polish.

this. if you do open worlds you need some solid good interesting side quests and maybe a few mini quests(like the witcher) but what you also need is dynamic open world events, watch dogs 2(alot of the newer ubisoft games) had ton of this poo poo as did shadow of mordor. you also need to make it feel alive and things having a purpose.


Fojar38 posted:

I would call it a classical RPG in the sense that there's a large open world scattered with questgivers and a big main quest chain that dominates all the others. People call this "MMO-like" nowadays but it was the way non-JRPG's operated for a long long time and ME:A and DA:I are returns to form in that regard.

Personally, I think ME:A is better than DA:I and that's honestly the best comparison. If you liked DA:I you'll probably like ME:A, and conversely if you hated DA:I you probably won't like ME:A.

yeah. i kinda like DA I more though (mass effect has always been my favorite bioware series but DA is cool enough) DA:I has the same issues as ME: A but its alot more polished and there is always a goal to stuff. andromada feels like the DA 2 with less polish but built with inquestions designs.

BattleSausage
Aug 14, 2003

I'm butter side up, baby.

Taco Defender

wjs5 posted:

My mute button works, and I can change graphics settings.

I haven't tried multiplayer yet, but I can only change screen calibration through chromatic aberration. Every slider afterwards is stuck at "medium" and grayed out so I can't edit it. I have an NVIDIA 760, so not top of the line but not a terrible video card either. Dunno :shrug:

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008
So I planned to play this on my PC hooked up to the TV with an xbox 360 controller.

Well I can't, if I push the right stick to move the loving camera moves with it like I'm using the left stick, try and run forward and the camera pans up to the ceiling.

Got some google results, with basically the only solution someone had was to play with the console open on the screen, which is annoying.

Thought I'd see if anyone here had the same issue and solved it?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I think I like it more than DA:I because the open world formula works better in a game fundamentally about space colonization rather than a game that is singularly about beating a big bad guy. I mean to be sure this game has a big bad guy that needs beating but his presence is incidental to the larger story of "set up civilization anew." Really he's just the biggest hazard you're facing, not the singular point of the initiative existing.

It also means that when the game ends and I (presumably) have beaten them there is still a reason for everything I've built to stick around, unlike the inquisition in DA.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

Fojar38 posted:

Personally, I think ME:A is better than DA:I and that's honestly the best comparison. If you liked DA:I you'll probably like ME:A, and conversely if you hated DA:I you probably won't like ME:A.

Yeah, it's gonna be divisive as hell because it is very different to play than ME1-3. But they did fix the worst thing in DAI. Yes, there are still a couple quests (literally two that I have right now) that are "scan X things" but generally they seem to have tightened down on "less filler quests" pretty hard. They also smartly have the game itself tell you to leave Eos and keep traveling back and forth as you expand the Nexus.

Plus the combat is infinitely more satisfying than DAI, though I did like DAI's combat for what it was.

Slim Killington
Nov 16, 2007

I SAID GOOD DAY SIR
Hey whereabouts is that post about screwing with some file to get actual Ultra texture settings?

GET MY BELT SON
Sep 26, 2007

is there any benefit to SP by playing MP?

Serf
May 5, 2011


I still like DA2 for being the closest thing Bioware's ever done to Warren Spector's 1 city block RPG. Gimme a whole Mass Effect game in the vein of Noveria, or Omega in ME2. Nice, small and self-contained.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


precision posted:

This, so much. I legitimately don't think the streamer guy who beat the game in 21 hours actually did any sidequests at all, I think I was at 6 hours just from the tutorial area and meeting the Nexus people. Pretty sure I've hit 21 hours in single player already and I'm just about to land on my second planet, and there are like four quests on Eos I could have done before leaving (and a few more I can do now that the radiation is down)

How do you get up on the cliff to bury the guy's dog tags on Eos? I tried for like an hour and just gave up.


Sprinting from the start to the end as quick as you can and then claiming that's the maximum runtime of the game is a common thing people do nowadays, ME and other games.

It's dumb.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006

Serf posted:

I still like DA2 for being the closest thing Bioware's ever done to Warren Spector's 1 city block RPG. Gimme a whole Mass Effect game in the vein of Noveria, or Omega in ME2. Nice, small and self-contained.

:same: gimme C-Sec Noir. Just Garrus being a badass busting cases and locking up bad dudes on the citadel

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Did bioware really have enough restraint to not let you gently caress the weird cat twileks or your great granfather, the krogan? I heard this is true.

Honestly I don't like any of the flirt options so I think I'm just gonna ride solo with my bros the salarians this time. I romanced Thane in the first series and found his relationship with Shep really, really creepy and sad (Shep what is wrong with you?), kind of turned me off that part of the game in general lol.

Unrelated but Peebee is less annoying than I thought! I was pleasantly surprised. :3:

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames

GET MY BELT SON posted:

is there any benefit to SP by playing MP?

If you do Apex missions, yes. They give you bonus XP and credits in MP, and loot boxes you can claim in SP. You don't actually have to play the MP if you don't want to though, you can send your strike team to do them, but it takes a lot longer and they can fail.

The loot boxes sometimes have very good things in them (rare materials and weapons).

Also you don't really have to do tons of scanning for Research Points unless you want every gun and piece of armor in the game, which... you don't. Figure out which type of gun your Ryder wants to specialize in and then only research that type. You'll get enough guns from loot to experiment with.

Pozload Escobar
Aug 21, 2016

by Reene
NO spoilers but if Cerberus shows it's loving retard face in this galaxy I'm gonna do a mad

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.

GET MY BELT SON posted:

is there any benefit to SP by playing MP?

Once you're deep into the single-player game, the MP bonuses aren't particularly useful.

That "Strike Teams" menu in MP has specific missions with specific debuffs/buffs for an added challenge. They're timed too, exactly like in DA:I's inquisition table (or whatever it was called). If you complete those specific missions (manually or automatically with your APEX Strike Team from SP) you get some decent items or a piddling about of credits or some common resources to use in SP.

Syzygy Stardust
Mar 1, 2017

by R. Guyovich

GET MY BELT SON posted:

is there any benefit to SP by playing MP?

To add on to what the others said about Apex missions and phone app strikes, the credit rewards are small, the materials rewards are probably small in relation to what you get playing (I don't have much time in yet but that seems the case), but the weapons can be good. The day my Ryder started playing and reached the Nexus I unboxed 2 Hurricanes, a Scorpion, and a Talon from playing the app for a couple of days in advance. It was nice starting Eos with real guns I didn't have to buy or research.

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Lemon King
Oct 4, 2009

im nt posting wif a mark on my head

A Buff Gay Dude posted:

NO spoilers but if Cerberus shows it's loving retard face in this galaxy I'm gonna do a mad

I'm only on the 3rd main quest planet but the whole revival of Ryder was much like Shepard being revived in ME2 with the Lazarus project.

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