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I'm not going to lie, after looking at the banners I'm still entertaining thoughts of a second pull of VI Banner 1. Setzer Burst still looks like a top prize and I don't really see many support options on the anniversary banners outside of Faris USB. I'm also still looking for Locke or Edgar BSBs, and an in-realm medica I wouldn't turn down either. Banner 4 having 2/3s of the BSBs be dupes is making me worried, even if all the OSBs look fantastic. Kinda swinging back towards favoring Banner 2, maybe with a single pull on Banner 1.
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Locke's OSB is bad, dooooon't well, as i mentioned a couple pages back my ff6 synergy is generally poo poo too so there would be an ulterior motive to drawing as well
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Mar 24, 2017 00:35
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wizard on a water slide posted:Yeah, that makes sense. Actually, the aversion towards the Global version of Ultros' Choice is the result of the JP Foresight the subreddit uses to their advantage being rendered useless to the fact Overseas Fanboyism is somehow not as different as its Japanese Equivalent: Imagine being given a similar survey to the one the Japanese got to make their Banner (and get the Freebie Abilities), learning said survey actually covered really good relics from a month after the cutoff point of the Japanese one and thus try to prune out the odd choices of the banner such as P. Cecil and Aerith's Bursts (which are nice on a vacuum, but they clearly show their age compared to any Holy/Healing Burst released after them) only to discover the Final Tally amounted to a near similar Banner (if not a more awkward one, thanks to Sheepsong being pruned out in favor of Onion Slice). The visceral reaction was a logical outcome in hindsight.
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Mar 24, 2017 00:46
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What's wrong with Locke's OSB? It seems bog standard, not overtly bad like Gilgamesh's or something
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Mar 24, 2017 00:49
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Social Psychology posted:What's wrong with Locke's OSB?
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:It's closer to SSB strength than OSB strength in exchange for being...ranged and fast cast. Not fantastic. It's also a +Holy dagger which is awkward since anyone you'd want a physical holy weapon for (including Locke himself) can use swords already. It'll still probably beat those out just due to having 6* weapon stats but eh.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:02
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YoshiOfYellow posted:It's also a +Holy dagger which is awkward since anyone you'd want a physical holy weapon for (including Locke himself) can use swords already. It'll still probably beat those out just due to having 6* weapon stats but eh. Except our good pal Snow.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:05
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It's kind of weird that it's +holy given the fact that Locke has two SBs that deal fire/NE or fire only and an Enfire, but no real use for holy outside his BSB/OSB (which are both also fire). It's not a net loss since +holy is probably better for physical characters anyway, and it still combos with the Enfire since his OSB does both, it's just a little... off. Locke has always felt a little "off".
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Mar 24, 2017 01:05
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:It's closer to SSB strength than OSB strength in exchange for being...ranged and fast cast. Not fantastic. It's also dual element and therefore can hit multiple weaknesses and is easier to boost. It's not great but I wouldn't call it substantially worse than the average OSB. Certainly better than the Gilgamesh/Vaan/Bartz tier at least.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:06
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since i haven't played any final fantasies beyond 6 or tactics i can say the reason it's holy is because in 6 it had a chance to cast holy on hit or as we knew it then, "pearl" also it was called "gradeus" which i thought was neat because it reminded me of gradius
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Mar 24, 2017 01:08
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apoc black knights hit pretty hard unless you bring exhausting polka, multi break, and another stacking aoe atk breakdown of some sort... good thing i was the only one in my pub group who came prepared with all 3
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Mar 24, 2017 01:09
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Grozz Nuy posted:It's also dual element and therefore can hit multiple weaknesses and is easier to boost. It's not great but I wouldn't call it substantially worse than the average OSB. Certainly better than the Gilgamesh/Vaan/Bartz tier at least. Bartz isn't really that much worse than Locke. Still a bit sad they stuck both Bartz and Gilgamesh on banner 3. I'd have taken just about any other OSB over them, even Vaan since that'd have been another +10 ATK for him.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:17
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Strategizing my pulls is gonna be tricky on this one. My chase relics are on banners with two or three dupes, and the banners without dupes have stuff I don't want to chase as badly, but could still be good. Well, always the chance my position changes after the BSB lucky and Ultros, but given my luck so far, probably not. I do have enough mithril to pull once on each banner, so that could also be viable. But then again, could also be good to save some for upcoming crazy good banners. Decisions...
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So Noctis's BSB in jp has a warpstrike command, in which your character teleports to a cliff and holds onto the sword. This has some....unintended side effects with the wrong type of character(ie, using it as a RW)
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Mar 24, 2017 01:22
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Panic! at Nabisco posted:Locke's OSB is bad, dooooon't Yeah but the item is great. YoshiOfYellow posted:It's also a +Holy dagger which is awkward since anyone you'd want a physical holy weapon for (including Locke himself) can use swords already. It'll still probably beat those out just due to having 6* weapon stats but eh. What you're saying just makes no sense. Daggers are only 10 attack weaker than swords at osb level, with no synergy. And locke wants daggers for the thief skills anyways. I've seen a lot of people have this opinion, and it's just straight up wrong. After getting vaan's hugely disspointing osb last year, I can tell you how loving awesome having an osb dagger around is. It's pretty drat awesome. It's a non-synergy 186 attack stat stick that literally every single physical attacker in the game can use. Like, the ability to say gently caress you to your lack of synergy weapons is great enough. What's that? Zell needs a fist? Freya needs a spear? Cyan needs a katana (and that 5* samurai skill they never released globally)? They can make due with this. And hey, if you need a knight, boom, holy boost. Do you need a dagger for wind bite's 3.7 multiplier? Done. I'd rather have the other relics on that banner, of course. But this dagger is sure as hell gonna replace my ssb holy boosting sword I was using. And uh, if I get a second I won't be complaining. This is a relic I really want to +.
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Mar 24, 2017 01:37
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Sprite141 posted:wind bite oy gevalt
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Sprite141 posted:Yeah but the item is great. Yeah that's a fair assessment really. I think it just feels super awkward to get a +Holy dagger from Locke who has always focused on Fire and only got Holy with his BSB because Phoenix. I'll admit when I'm wrong and retract my statement though. That said I dunno if it's worth using this over a +Wind weapon for Dash Bite just because it's a dagger, but that entirely depends on some math I have no idea about.
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Mar 24, 2017 03:36
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So there's a new Lucky draw banner on the Japanese version, and I get 2/11 with both of them being Full Metal Rods. Why do lucky draws hate me?
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Been busy today, so I didn't pull on today's Lucky Banner until now. 2/11: Sabin's BSB and Vayne's BSB. Not sure how noteworthy either of them is in the grand scheme of things, but they're not dupes, so it's already a way better result than yesterday!
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bilperkins2 posted:For those who don't know the effects by memory, I added them (basically for myself because I only know the ones I have)
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Mar 24, 2017 05:18
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Still trying to talk myself out of pulling on Banner 4. I already have two of the bursts, and I'll have a better time pulling for Orlandeau on the next Tactics banner that I have zero dupes on. And Agrias OSB sounds nice, but I feel like it might be a better use of time just sticking with her BSB to stack imperils for other Holy characters to exploit with their OSBs/Bursts. Am I wrong and missing something important about using Agrias? That kind of just leaves me looking at Banner 2 for Tidus/Yuna. Maybe Banner 3 for the good bursts (and I wouldn't mind a dupe Golbez rod) if I don't get anything good in today's lucky draw. And I guess the Ultros banner if I completely whiff on the free pull.
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Mar 24, 2017 05:33
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The fact that today's BG music is Gilgamesh's boss theme makes me all sorts of happy.
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It's a really good remix too.
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Cinnamon Bear posted:Still trying to talk myself out of pulling on Banner 4. I already have two of the bursts, and I'll have a better time pulling for Orlandeau on the next Tactics banner that I have zero dupes on. And Agrias OSB sounds nice, but I feel like it might be a better use of time just sticking with her BSB to stack imperils for other Holy characters to exploit with their OSBs/Bursts. Am I wrong and missing something important about using Agrias? I gotta tell you, Banner 4 is hard not to sell. I'm happy I have no dupes on it. Pros: Both TGCid and Agrias OSB Swords are holy boosting 6* swords (with Agrias BSB as the 5* version) 3 Medicas (Eiko's which is ideal for physical teams to keep up DPS, Yuna's is still one of the strongest pure healing SBs, and Onion's SSB is Wrath spammable and lets you take Y'shtola for a Wall) Cloud's USB is pretty popular in JP right now, so combining a 100% crit chance with Ramza's increased damage on crits seem like a match made in heaven (plays nice with Eiko's BSB too) Neither of Alphinaud's relics or Agrias's relics show up in the next XIV/Tactics events, so this is your last guaranteed chance to have access to them for a while (Especially for Alphinaud) Cons: 3 Medicas (If you have a good one already and just want more offensive items) You have dupes??? Saving for other banners??? I personally think it's a stronger banner then Rapha/Marach 2 banner, unless you like Mustadio and Marach a lot, or want a shot at Orlandeau BSB as well. pichupal fucked around with this message at 07:48 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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4 is tricky for me. Everything looks great, but I do have Alphinaud's two items and I already have an 8* plus one more Hamelin. It's drat near a sure thing I'd be walking away with nothing but dupes, but the non-dupes look freaking great. TGCid is tempting if nothing else since having his BSB makes me really wanna pull.
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4 is probably the strongest banner on paper, followed by 1. Sadly I have 4 dupes on 4, including 2 of the BSBs (and a functional dupe of the third BSB), and 2 of the other relics on the banner would be complete duds for me, so I can't really justify a pull since I'd basically just be chasing Cid's OSB at that point. I'm probably going to pull once or twice on 1, depending on what I get, and twice on 3 since I really want those BSBs, though I hate that both of the OSBs are just garbage. 2 has Tidus' OSB, which I really want, but nothing else grabs me, so I probably shouldn't pull on that either. Which means either a third pull on 3 or a pull on the Ultros banner.
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HPanda posted:4 is tricky for me. Everything looks great, but I do have Alphinaud's two items and I already have an 8* plus one more Hamelin. It's drat near a sure thing I'd be walking away with nothing but dupes, but the non-dupes look freaking great. TGCid is tempting if nothing else since having his BSB makes me really wanna pull. Compare to upcoming banners if you're chasing something specific. TGCid OSB -> Rapha/Marach 2 - The Orlandeau relic zone featuring Mustadio and Marach) Agrias OSB/BSB -> Beatrix 1 - Beatrix also has a Holy OSB with a sword that boost holy damage (boosts damage with Knight abilities used), and has almost the same BSB as Agrias. Actually, almost every item on this banner boosts elemental damage Onion SSB -> CoD 2 - The everything Onion + Desch and Ignus's BSBs. Ideal if you're still chasing the Onion Gauntlets. Watch out for Desch's Gauntlet though. Ramza SSB -> Rapha/Marach 1 - Rapha's BSB is the star here (Think Cid Raines BSB, but Lightning and trading the Powerchain for healing), but there's nice stuff for Ramza, Delita and Ovelia too. Ramza is bringing ANOTHER 6* holy boosting sword with his eh USB. Yuna SSB -> Next X event - Either Banner 1 for Yuna's Amazing USB and Tidus Water Chain SB, or Banner 2 for specifically this SSB, a chance at some Jecht and Paine stuff and Kimahri's surprisingly good Imperil Water BSB. Tidus BSB comes back if you have his OSB too. pichupal fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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pichupal posted:Compare to upcoming banners if you're chasing something specific. Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should pass on it then, since I do have Beatrix's BSB. That would make this three dupes and one semi-dupe. While the non-dupes would all help, some of those other banners are looking better.
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HPanda posted:Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should pass on it then, since I do have Beatrix's BSB. That would make this three dupes and one semi-dupe. While the non-dupes would all help, some of those other banners are looking better. I just got Raines BSB and Beatrix's BSB on my Lucky Draw just now and I've already messed up my banner pull planning.  Not complaning though, this blows my Lightning BSB1/Cloud BSB pull from the last BSB lucky out of the water
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I got Onion Knight's BSB and Fran's BSB. No dupes, so I'm pretty happy about that, at least. I did not get Tiny Bees.
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Haha gently caress yes, my luck turns. I needed to fix my FF6 and FF10 synergy, and my FF7 is pretty dated too. What do I get? 7/44 with pulls since the last DU lucky. Looking much better.
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2/11 on the Lucky Draw, Ogre and Magic Shuriken. These any good? I suppose an imperil is always nice, especially with breakdown commands, though it's kinda odd that they don't deal wind damage. Maybe Yuffie's BSB will finally let me beat that goddamn X Torment dungeon? I have literally no other SBs that deal water damage somehow, but I feel like this thing is going to do some really disappointing damage.
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Cosmic Afro posted:I got Onion Knight's BSB and Fran's BSB. No dupes, so I'm pretty happy about that, at least. I did not get Tiny Bees. That is a stupid-good pull, god drat! My own luck is somehow holding up still:  Even if Seifer's BSB seems a bit weird and Maria's is a dupe. I somehow went from not having any mage BSBs to pulling Maria's twice in like 4 days. Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 09:16 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Of all the draws to go 1/11... got Sarah's Light Robe. Not a great pull, since I content is almost nonexistent and I'll be using Vanille for my healer slot almost all of the time, but at least I finally have a magic blink medica.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:2/11 on the Lucky Draw, Ogre and Magic Shuriken. Yuffie's BSB isn't super strong per hit, but it does have ninja cast times, and steal atk/def as a command.
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Yeah I am pretty jealous of all the people who keep getting like 3+ relics on their pulls. The only one I got 3 on was the medica pull, and 2 of those were dupes :/ Better get at least one big haul on these upcoming banners or I'll be a bit salty.
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Got a Knight Protector Dupe, which is probably because I just posted about it (seriously, it's weird how often I get dupes like this), and a Sorceress's Awakening. It's a little dated without extra effects on the entry or commands, but it does give me my first Earth SB, Ice BSB, and some much needed 8 synergy all in one.
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2/11 Locke and Yuffie I guess I better hone some thief abilities. Up until now I haven't had any SBs on thieves.
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Sarah's SSB Potato BSB Refia BSB Zell BSB Aeris BSB Reno BSB Pretty good haul for 75 fun bucks
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