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Tired Moritz posted:He literally has nazi opinions. Why can't we call him a nazi other than the fact that you can't stop making GBS threads your pants I disagree with the claim that he nazi opinions. Therefore we cannot call him a Nazi and you need to stop making GBS threads your penis.
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Why isnt his opinion nazi-like?
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Mar 24, 2017 16:36
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Tired Moritz posted:Why isnt his opinion nazi-like? Post one of the opinions you take issue with and ill educate you.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:37
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lovely Wizard posted:Post one of the opinions you take issue with and ill educate you. Just look at the op. Educate me please. 
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Mar 24, 2017 16:39
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lovely Wizard posted:It sounds like he's referring to the new tactic of calling literally anyone who opposes someone's view points trying to label someone as a Nazi, no matter how minor the opposition. Retards like Glazier saying "100% of people who voted for trump are actual nazis". Actually it sounds like he's a retard, HTH
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Mar 24, 2017 16:40
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Tired Moritz posted:Just look at the op. Educate me please. Let's start with supporting Steve King's tweet about "We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." Refugees in Europe aren't integrating for the most part, they're living essentially in enclaves/sections where they can remain insular to their beliefs, and not innocuous ones like "dont eat meat on x day", or "pray every day towards x direction", but horrible ones. Everyone teaches their babies/children their beliefs, and some beliefs such as "cut up them vaginas", "burn and stone them homos", and "12 year olds and under are allowed to be raped as long as they get married afterwards" aren't ideas that are are dying easily once they come to Europe.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:46
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lovely Wizard posted:Post one of the opinions you take issue with and ill educate you. "Rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites. It's a fact, look it up." Turns out that """fact""" was made up by and passed around between white supremacist websites. Now I wonder where JonnyTronny came across it... HMMMMMMMMM
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Mar 24, 2017 16:48
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lovely Wizard posted:Let's start with supporting Steve King's tweet about "We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." What does this have to do with America
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Mar 24, 2017 16:50
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Tired Moritz posted:What does this have to do with America Let me tell you about Eurabia.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:53
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Tired Moritz posted:What does this have to do with America Isn't the quote was referring to refugees and immigration policies. Who What Now posted:"Rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites. It's a fact, look it up." He was retarded in using an old rear end statistic from the 80's. White people are under arrested compared to black people, as well as under-sentenced (got some coke? slap on the wrist if you're white, 15 years if you're black). Being a retard is bad, but not nazi-like unless he was purposely using poorly made stats to misrepresent an argument or in favor of literal death camps.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:57
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lovely Wizard posted:Isn't the quote was referring to refugees and immigration policies. It's not a statistic from the 80s because it's not a real statistic. It's completely made up out of whole cloth.
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Mar 24, 2017 16:59
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lovely Wizard posted:Isn't the quote was referring to refugees and immigration policies. being a moron and a nazi is not mutually exclusive
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Mar 24, 2017 17:01
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Why is there any sort of ambiguity on whats a Nazi. Is he sporting a swastika tattoo? Is he giving a seig-heil? These are great indicators of someone being a nazi
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The idea that civilisation has collapsed and needs to be "restored" is insane white nationalist nonsense to begin with though. The premise is flawed. As an actual European I can tell you that I went to school with plenty of people from immigrant families, I've lived with immigrants, studied at uni with them, dated second generation people etc. Yes, there are small areas where there's limited integration. But this happens with white people too. In fact, almost all the small areas in British cities that present this are that way because immigrants moved in and then the white people moved away all "there goes the neighbourhood!" style. White flight. Somehow though this is never brought up by the people who're eager to raise these talking points. It's never considered to be white folks' responsibility that they actively don't want to rent or buy property in these communities, and that existing white residents sell up when they see too many people "of the wrong sort" moving in. Even then though the scale of the problem in Europe is massively overstated by right wing internet warriors. In fact US political pundits are all too eager to lie flagrantly about segregated countries and "no-go zones" and make up terror attacks and generally act as if Sweden is the new Rwanda. It is a problem, but as someone who actually lives here and interacts with other people I can tell you that it's not like that. I'm from a standard suburban area and I've spent all my life being friends, enemies, crushes etc with people from immigrant backgrounds.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:03
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Who What Now posted:It's not a statistic from the 80s because it's not a real statistic. It's completely made up out of whole cloth.  https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.9f9699716913 It exists, and it's like I said : Jontron hosed up - It's not more likely to commit crime, its more likely to end up in prison. He tried to extrapolated the wrong idea from the data : poor whites aren't less likely to commit crime than rich blacks, they're just less likely to actually get punished.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:03
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nazis also drive volkswagens. not chevy / ford. 
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Mar 24, 2017 17:04
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lovely Wizard posted:
he is an adult and should have better critical thinking skills than to go, "gee golly, it looks like racism is true!" and then eagerly cite this Daily Stormer-rear end interpretation of a study without thinking about it. Like, that is a racist thing to do. I don't think he's a nazi though. He's just a pretty racist idiot.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:06
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Android Blues posted:I don't think he's a nazi though. He's just a pretty racist idiot. i'd call it the poignant and worldly perspective of someone who plays video games for a living.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:09
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scott zoloft posted:i'd call it the poignant and worldly perspective of someone who plays video games for a living. i don't mean to imply that people who pursued careers in other fields may have broader perspectives on american culture and the involved socioeconomics thereof.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:10
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racists are just a lesser form of Nazism. like pokemon. we should nip it in the bud and shame them quickly before they evolve.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:13
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Pokémon seems pretty shameful too, though. But it got millennial doughbodies to go outside and exercise, so there's that.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:15
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For like 3 days
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Mar 24, 2017 17:16
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Klyith posted:it also doesn't mean that you need to organize campaigns against a person's livelyhood, that doesn't seem to fit the "nice" billing what the gently caress lol who is "organizing a campaign" against JonTron he's just crashing and burning and it's funny Aesop Poprock posted:Ew dude wth is this that's called a nice meltdown lmao
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Mar 24, 2017 17:16
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lovely Wizard posted:Let's start with supporting Steve King's tweet about "We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies." let's start with this absurd conservative fetish for "restoration of a forgotten past" the past sucked, get over it fuckface there's nothing to "restore" lol e: also I wonder how many of you actually give a poo poo about women's rights and LBGT rights or if that's just a convenient point of attack for you when you're trying to poo poo on the brown people. Because frankly many of the same people saying that poo poo are v quick to say anti-LGBT or anti-women poo poo in different circumstances in a different argument.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:19
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lovely Wizard posted:
That shows the richest black people being jailed less, or at least the same, than the poorest whites.
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Tired Moritz posted:racists are just a lesser form of Nazism. like pokemon. Eugenics? I am formally accusing you of being a Nazi. Android Blues posted:he is an adult and should have better critical thinking skills than to go, "gee golly, it looks like racism is true!" and then eagerly cite this Daily Stormer-rear end interpretation of a study without thinking about it. Like, that is a racist thing to do. Hopefully he just misread information like a retard. Also your above post does touch on racism being a factor for some of the anti-immigrant sentiments, but refugees are a whole different beast. With controlled immigration there's usually either some brain drain from other countries or some sense of "america is better than the place I am in now culturally". With refugees, it's a large influx of people who's only focus is getting out of the place where they might become a casualty of war. This means that refugees will likely be people who were a-okay with backwards beliefs like female genital mutilation, child brides, crimes/killings of homosexuals, etc are only coming over for self preservation, rather than a commitment to join another country for the better and leave the poo poo that is garbage behind. Moridin920 posted:what the gently caress lol who is "organizing a campaign" against JonTron he's just crashing and burning and it's funny He isn't crashing or burning by any metrics :  He lost like 10k subscribers total out of 3 million, and even got a little bounce to help pad that loss the week after. The red in this image is only from him making a video private/unlisted by the way, not any sort of actual loss. Who What Now posted:That shows the richest black people being jailed less, or at least the same, than the poorest whites. Top 10% manages to just beat the lowest 10% of whites by like 1%. 71-80% is like 3 times as much, as is 81% to 90%. Shitty Wizard fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Who What Now posted:That shows the richest black people being jailed less, or at least the same, than the poorest whites. If you're only looking at the one bar for the 10th wealth decile but otherwise it's pretty obvious black people are being jailed more than white people across pretty much all wealth/class stratums.  Like it's not even close The top 10% (in terms of wealth) of black people get jailed at the same rate as the poorest 10% of white people otherwise black people get jailed way the gently caress more lol lovely Wizard posted:He isn't crashing or burning by any metrics : Well that's disappointing. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 17:24
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Moridin920 posted:If you're only looking at the one bar for the 10th wealth decile but otherwise it's pretty obvious black people are being jailed more than white people across pretty much all wealth/class stratums. Yes, I was looking at only the richest decile because that was the decile being referenced.
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Man for someone who's supposedly not a Nazi/Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist/Ethno-Nationalist/Race Realist/whatever they are calling themselves today, you sure are invested in defending Jonboy  vvv No you can't it's mean and wrong! Besides here's a bunch of evidence of international Jewry conspiring, what can't we discuiss it? vvv
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Mar 24, 2017 17:27
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lovely Wizard posted:Eugenics? I am formally accusing you of being a Nazi. bash the fasc, etc etc if someone said racist poo poo, you're legally allowed to tell them they're dumb as gently caress, and that is what we're doing in this thread!! you're killing our vibes!!
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Mar 24, 2017 17:27
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lovely Wizard posted:Will you admit current western culture is better than current arab culture? Not some 500 years ago comparison, but that it is 100% better to be a citizen in the united states right now than any arab country right now. Will you admit that this is largely due to the instability in the region following the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and compounded by nearly a hundred years of western meddling in which we (the west) destroyed secular socialist movements, propped up Islamist dictators, funded Islamist terrorists and pitted different strains of Islam against each other in an attempt to continue to exploit the natural resources of the region for as long as possible and with as little interference from the populace as possible and not down to some inherent flaw in the Muslim faith or one of the many Arab cultures? I'm guessing nah, you won't (because you're a racist oval office). For those who didn't watch Hbomberguy's excellent video, the tl;dr is virtue signalling is a meaningless neoreactionary buzzword that means someone doesn't believe you're not as racist and evil as they are so you must be lying when you say you don't want to kill or deport all muslims as an attempt to garner social cache. For all the intentionally obtuse people like 8-bit scholar et. al. Think of it this way. You wouldn't care at all if some idiot did some media where he defended pedophilia and then had his life ruined as a result. Well non racists feel the same way about racists as you do about the pedo-defenders.
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Who What Now posted:Yes, I was looking at only the richest decile because that was the decile being referenced. just bc the very top 10% on the black side is equal to the very lowest 10% on the white side that doesn't mean the statement you quoted isn't true though: quote:poor whites aren't less likely to commit crime than rich blacks, they're just less likely to actually get punished. "rich blacks" doesn't have to mean literally just the top 10% and nothing else lol
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Glazier posted:Man for someone who's supposedly not a Nazi/Neo-Nazi/White Nationalist/Ethno-Nationalist/Race Realist/whatever they are calling themselves today, you sure are invested in defending Jonboy Stop loving kids, Nazi. Who What Now posted:Yes, I was looking at only the richest decile because that was the decile being referenced. The only thing being referred to was rich blacks vs poor whites in general, I assume the top 11-20% is still pretty rich, and that has a huge disparity. That there's a 1% difference between the poorest loving white and the richest loving black still proves the point when you look at the rest of the image.
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lovely Wizard posted:The only thing being referred to was rich blacks vs poor whites in general, I assume the top 11-20% is still pretty rich, and that has a huge disparity. That there's a 1% difference between the poorest loving white and the richest loving black still proves the point when you look at the rest of the image. yea
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Moridin920 posted:just bc the very top 10% on the black side is equal to the very lowest 10% on the white side that doesn't mean the statement you quoted isn't true though: I'm talking about what Jon said. And when he talks about the rich I assume he, you know, means the actually rich, I.E. the top 1%.
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A Pale Horse posted:For those who didn't watch Hbomberguy's excellent video, the tl;dr is virtue signalling is a meaningless neoreactionary buzzword that means someone doesn't believe you're not as racist and evil as they are so you must be lying when you say you don't want to kill or deport all muslims as an attempt to garner social cache. It's classic projection. I'm a lovely person so everyone must be as well, and if it appears they aren't they must have ulterior motives.
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Will you admit current western culture is better than current arab culture? Not some 500 years ago comparison, but that it is 100% better to be a citizen in the united states right now than any arab country right now. Yes or No? Glazier posted:It's classic projection. I'm a lovely person so everyone must be as well, and if it appears they aren't they must have ulterior motives. Stop loving kids, Nazi.
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Mar 24, 2017 17:34
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Would rich crack dealers in 1985 count in that chart, because LOL what propaganda picking 1985 smack in the middle of that
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Mar 24, 2017 17:33
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Hey guys JonTron is still cool and good if anybody is confused just checking in
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Im thrilled that so many people are standing up for a workers rights against a big company. I assume I'll see you at the next "Fight for 15" meeting?
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