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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/HitScreen/status/845354059766939648 When you are watching the trailer for the trailer for the Spiderman trailer, reflect on monkeys' paws.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:23
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FlamingLiberal posted:https://twitter.com/HitScreen/status/845354059766939648 There will almost definitely be one attached to GOTG2
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Mar 24, 2017 21:28
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Maybe GBS is more your style, friend. Plenty of racists over there too!
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Mar 24, 2017 21:29
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McCloud posted:Basically, RT rewards conformity and cookie cutter movies in the superhero genre while eschewing movies that deviate from the formula.In fact, a common complaint of BvS was that it wasn't "as fun as Marvels movies!" Logan's at 93%, it feels pretty different than many superhero movies (to the point where you could watch and enjoy it without even being aware it was one). It also wasn't much fun in the colorful quippy "Marvels movies" sense. But I spose Jackman has a lot of goodwill at this point compared to Cavill or whatever.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:33
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Why do we always get the boring trolls
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Phylodox posted:I dunno, I definitely rank Batman v Superman pretty low down on the superhero movie totem pole. It's just so loving dull, which is about the worst thing one of these movies can be. Again: Thor 2, the boringest poo poo ever: +60%
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McCloud posted:Again: Thor 2, the boringest poo poo ever: +60% I was honestly more bored my BvS.
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Arist posted:Why do we always get the boring trolls defending DCEU films at this point just reeks of contrarianism How many times do we have to keep going through this poo poo in this thread? christ... don't any of you people find it even slightly odd that the people who try defend these films are SMG or people who gimmick post like him?
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McCloud posted:Again: Thor 2, the boringest poo poo ever: +60% was infinitely more bored by BvS than Thor 2 Thor 2 had a dull-rear end script but it had actors with charisma who were, like, trying and having fun
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Blockhouse posted:was infinitely more bored by BvS than Thor 2 Yes, Natalie Portman seems to be having a blast, man. And Hopkins is pretty jazzed to be there too! I mean jesus, even George Lucas managed to get a better performance out of her.
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What I don't get about the Thor films is why do you have Natalie Portman and Kat Dennings basically playing the same character. Also the Thor movies have the most romantic plotting in them, and it's real bad. But never mind that ------>Archer and Armstrong movie from the guy that directed Zombieland<-------
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Race Realists posted:defending DCEU films at this point just reeks of contrarianism I like Man of Steel and BvS because I think they're awesome movies that do cool things with the characters 
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Eh, maybe I'd think different if I've actually been reading any of these BvS posts, but I don't mind McCloud's shite. People can like BvS without ending every other sentence with "and people who don't like it are wrong idiots who don't understand art!" The whole RT rating system does get pretty misleading; no matter how much someone consciously understands that it's an aggregate of reviews that recommend/don't recommend the film, people tend to just treat it like a barometer of film quality anyway. BvS isn't the only film to get skewed so much by it either. gently caress Ratner though! 
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Mar 24, 2017 22:12
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BvS Extended Ultramega Alpha Golden Eagle Cut is a good slow burn superhero film. I'll re-watch that cut of BvS over any Marvel movie tbh. My only real gripe with BvS is the Martha scene; Cavill's delivery was so clunky. [edit] But it was just as convincingly weak and dumb as Agent Coulson's death "turning the tide" or whatever.
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teagone posted:BvS Extended Ultramega Alpha Golden Eagle Cut is a good slow burn superhero film. I'll re-watch that cut of BvS over any Marvel movie tbh. My only real gripe with BvS is the Martha scene; Cavill's delivery was so clunky. [edit] But it was just as convincingly weak and dumb as Agent Coulson's death "turning the tide" or whatever. I like the Martha moment personally. It's goofy and clunky, but gosh darn it I like it.
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SleepCousinDeath posted:I like Man of Steel and BvS because I think they're awesome movies that do cool things with the characters Explain to me the cool things that BvS does that one of the million pieces of existing media haven't already done better. Even bizarro Batman gunning down, maiming, and driving over thugs has been done better. I'm a huge Superman apologist, I even love schlocky poo poo like Superman IV and Max Landis's Supes comic, but BvS is the single worst use of those characters in a long long time. It's boring, it's grim, it's lifeless and uninteresting. It's a 3 hour lecture on how to misuse classic characters. "Two superheroes fight over a misunderstanding" is the dullest premise that modern comics can poo poo out, and BvS is a quarter-million dollar studio tentpole built around it.
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Given the choice between watching Iron Man 2, Thor 2, or BvS, I'd go with Thor 2 every time because Tom HiIddleston and Chris Hemsworth can carry a scene. BvS was just a beautifully shot but otherwise joyless trudge intensified by a catastrophically boring conclusion. Iron Man 2 was... there. It was a movie. I watched it once and there is almost zero chance that I will ever watch it again because I do not care about anything at all that happened in that movie. So I guess Thor 2 is the best of the worst? I'd watch MoS over all three because even if it's a lackluster Superman movie, it's a good sci-fi movie. Ireallylikeeggs fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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BrianWilly posted:Eh, maybe I'd think different if I've actually been reading any of these BvS posts, but I don't mind McCloud's shite. People can like BvS without ending every other sentence with "and people who don't like it are wrong idiots who don't understand art!" I'm not arguing that people who dislike it don't understand art, that's putting words in my mouth. I am saying that the RT system is misleading at best, and compared it to less than stellar movies to make my point. For all the whining that CineD is a hivemind, people here get mighty upset when you argue against the consensus.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Explain to me the cool things that BvS does that one of the million pieces of existing media haven't already done better. Even bizarro Batman gunning down, maiming, and driving over thugs has been done better. I'm a huge Superman apologist, I even love schlocky poo poo like Superman IV and Max Landis's Supes comic, but BvS is the single worst use of those characters in a long long time. It's boring, it's grim, it's lifeless and uninteresting. It's a 3 hour lecture on how to misuse classic characters. This is such a stupid argument. May as well stop making action movies then because no one is ever going to top Terminator 2! No need for any more romantic comedies, pretty woman did it the best! Marvel is doing Guardians of the galaxy? Guess they haven't heard of a little thing called Star Wars episode 5 
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Explain to me the cool things that BvS does that one of the million pieces of existing media haven't already done better. Even bizarro Batman gunning down, maiming, and driving over thugs has been done better. I'm a huge Superman apologist, I even love schlocky poo poo like Superman IV and Max Landis's Supes comic, but BvS is the single worst use of those characters in a long long time. It's boring, it's grim, it's lifeless and uninteresting. It's a 3 hour lecture on how to misuse classic characters. I cant explain it in a giant essay like SMG if that's what you're asking for. Zack Snyder is one of my favorite directors. His Superman comes across like a really honest and down to earth dude who will do his best to help out despite the fact that everyone hates him, and I liked Broken Batman because in the end he recognizes all of the crazy Batman stuff as being misguided. I guess I just see it as more optimistic than most people. I dunno, the first two Superman movies are also two of my favorite superhero movies so maybe I'm just a weirdo.
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I guess my biggest problem with BvS is that literally three-quarters of all the posts in the BSS movie thread are about it.
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Mar 24, 2017 22:34
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I still haven't seen the third Batman movie, the Bane one.
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zoux posted:I still haven't seen the third Batman movie, the Bane one. You should, for Bane's weird voice alone.
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You know what I want? A faithful movie adaptation of the crazy early/mid 90s Dark Horse Tales of the Jedi comics. I want to see dick chinned Sith with names like Ludo Kresh fight dorky early jedi and other dick chinned Sith named Naga Sadow and all the goofy poo poo that came out of those comics.
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Electromax posted:Logan's at 93%, it feels pretty different than many superhero movies (to the point where you could watch and enjoy it without even being aware it was one). It also wasn't much fun in the colorful quippy "Marvels movies" sense. But I spose Jackman has a lot of goodwill at this point compared to Cavill or whatever. Ratner has a point, but not because of McCloud's point, which I think is completely off. Rotten Tomato takes reviews that are complex and nuanced, where the writer thinks a movie has some flaws but also some interesting things to say, and turns it into an automatic rotten tomato. It dumbs down the critic's take and when compounded, can give a bad impression of a good movie. But OTOH, movies that are usually in the way low scale of things tend to be stinkers critically as well, across the board. Maybe its the virtue of a large enough sample size, flawed info conglemerated enough and in enough quantity to give actually accurate information. Which is a long way to say that BvS is still a bad movie.
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The Rotten Tomatoes score is fine if you actually take it as it's meant to be taken. Which is a percentage of reviews that thought a movie's positives outweighed its negatives. It's a very simple thing. Where it fails is when people start considering the percentage the same as a letter grade. A 50% movie isn't a failure of a film. It just means it was divisive and split as to whether people enjoyed it. If a film has a high score or a low score on Rotten Tomatoes with a good number of reviews it's an easy gauge of what you're likely to see. If the score is middling in that 40-60 area then it's pretty much a tossup.
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X-O posted:The Rotten Tomatoes score is fine if you actually take it as it's meant to be taken. The problem is that it's likely a sizeable chunk of people don't.
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teagone posted:The problem is that it's likely a sizeable chunk of people don't. That's not a problem with Rotten Tomatoes, that's a problem with people.
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McCloud posted:I'm not arguing that people who dislike it don't understand art, that's putting words in my mouth. (that I've seen)
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X-O posted:That's not a problem with Rotten Tomatoes, that's a problem with people. That's what I meant. People are stupid basically. People like Brett Ratner.
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Ireallylikeeggs posted:Given the choice between watching Iron Man 2, Thor 2, or BvS, I'd go with Thor 2 every time because Tom HiIddleston and Chris Hemsworth can carry a scene. BvS was just a beautifully shot but otherwise joyless trudge intensified by a catastrophically boring conclusion. Iron Man 2 was... there. It was a movie. I watched it once and there is almost zero chance that I will ever watch it again because I do not care about anything at all that happened in that movie. So I guess Thor 2 is the best of the worst? Man of Steel has Chris Meloni and Richard Schiff, which makes it definitely watchable for me, but I'd rather watch Sam Rockwell devour scenery or just look at The Dark World, which I find really visually engaging.
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I still really like Man of Steel. You know despite stupid poo poo like the death of Pa Kent or Superman casually jumping over a truck thrown at him and letting it crash and cause an explosion instead of just catching it.
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Man of steel Iron man 2 Thor 2 32 places down... Bvs
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Remind me why the Pa Kent death scene is bad, I'm not sure I've seen the movie the whole way through.
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zoux posted:Remind me why the Pa Kent death scene is bad, I'm not sure I've seen the movie the whole way through. He fades away into a tornado while Clark looks on yards away. Pa Kent dying is nothing new to the story of Superman. Having him run to the car after a dog while Clark is right there is just stupid.
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X-O posted:I still really like Man of Steel. You know despite stupid poo poo like [...] Superman casually jumping over a truck thrown at him and letting it crash and cause an explosion instead of just catching it. You can see Clark turn around and witness the destruction it caused. It distracts him, to where one might assume he's thinking to himself "Well poo poo, that was a big explosion. I probably should have caught that and not flew over it. gently caress, now the building might collapse. I messed up." Something to that effect, and while he's mulling over the poor choice he made, Zod sucker punches him. It's Clark's first day on the job in Man of Steel as a superhero who had only just begun to grasp his strength; he's bound to make mistakes. That's my rationale regarding that instance among others in the film that most people criticize.
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