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It's ok, next time it's time for Trump to negotiate, nobody will remember that his threats were empty and he was totally unable to effect any kind of positive change for his cause. Everyone will just forget, and the freedom caucus will be like 'you're our president, and we'll support you'
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https://twitter.com/davidcorndc/status/845361857774931968 So when are we getting a public option then
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evilweasel posted:lets ask republican congressman Tom Rooney I like that this answer came from a Republican. I have been so stressed out about my ability to pay for insurance the last couple of weeks because of this bill that I'm tearing up because they didn't have the necessary votes.
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Rad Valtar posted:As someone who only has affordable insurance because of the ACA what are the realistic chances of it surviving? I'm guessing the GOP will just keep drawing up new plans until something gets passed? In an ideal-for-them world, yes, but while the House Freedom Caucus remains at large and unwilling to compromise on feeding Grandma into a wood chipper you're going to be hard pressed to find a bill that doesn't fail, embarrassing the speaker repeatedly. Paul Ryan wants to sit in the big chair someday, being the Guy Who Obamacare Humiliated will not aid him in this cause.
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Ryan is getting ready to speak, for people who like to watch those sorts of things.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:00
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/davidcorndc/status/845361857774931968 This would be the greatest ending to all this.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Ryan is getting ready to speak, for people who like to watch those sorts of things. Is there a stream?
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/davidcorndc/status/845361857774931968 SCROOGE JUST WOKE UP ON CHRISTMAS DAY! GIVE US SINGLE PAYER OUT OF SPITE! EugeneJ fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 21:02
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HappyHippo posted:Is there a stream? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZkZP320tg Hopefully this works.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:03
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donald trump, out of spite, switches party affiliation from republican to democrat
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Craig K posted:donald trump, out of spite, switches party affiliation from republican to democrat 
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Craig K posted:donald trump, out of spite, switches party affiliation from republican to democrat That's exactly what I was just about to post hahaha.
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Craig K posted:donald trump, out of spite, switches party affiliation from republican to democrat Trump is supposed to be speaking relatively soon (I don't have a link to this either, thanks to AugustusLove for posting the other one).
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https://twitter.com/SenatorMenendez/status/845363015222542336
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poo poo could easily go sideways, but right now this owns. BURN IT ALL DOWN MWAHAHAHAHAHA. Take it you fucks.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:12
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Do have the version of that with tiny plastic dinosaurs? I lost mine a few years ago.
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Mar 24, 2017 21:12
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Paul Ryan is spinning so hard I'm shocked he's not physically drilling into the ground.
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AugustusLove posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZkZP320tg He's out and sounds like a kid in an 80's sitcom after getting caught in a compromising situation by the principal and pausing the camera to say, "Well, now THIS was a pickle." OutOfPrint fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/mikedebonis/status/845363898324832256 I'm playing the world's tiniest violin as these assholes sob over their failure to ruin the lives of sick people for the benefit of a handful of billionaires. Choke on your tears you heartless fucks.
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"At least anything bad that happens with healthcare in the future is still the Democrat's fault" seems to be the lifeline they're clinging to, which makes sense. Will be interesting to see what happens administratively, given the seeming incentive to quietly make things even worse.
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LMAO he got the gently caress out of there SO FAST
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Mar 24, 2017 21:22
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Well I guess that's that. Dude left smoke trails.
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This is a good point: https://twitter.com/brianbeutler/status/845368413228814336 Not that its any different than the last 7 years of course.
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evilweasel posted:This is a good point: They couldn't resemble Saturday morning cartoon villains more if they tried.
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Sir Kodiak posted:"At least anything bad that happens with healthcare in the future is still the Democrat's fault" seems to be the lifeline they're clinging to, which makes sense. Will be interesting to see what happens administratively, given the seeming incentive to quietly make things even worse. No one will buy it, not even their base. They had the chance to "fix" heathcare and they passed on it, anything that happens is their fault.
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Interesting to reread Bob Costa's "per a WH official" style tweets given this: https://twitter.com/costareports/status/845357678390104066
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HappyHippo posted:No one will buy it, not even their base. They had the chance to "fix" heathcare and they passed on it, anything that happens is their fault. Yeah, its now impossible for them to talk about obamacare without having to answer questions about trumpcare. When they say "we'll fix it" everyone now knows what that means.
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So, when are we getting this thread renamed?
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HappyHippo posted:No one will buy it, not even their base. They had the chance to "fix" heathcare and they passed on it, anything that happens is their fault. Hopefully. Seems like they're going to try, though. edit: Yeah, Trump is shoving this on the Democrats as hard as possible in his statement. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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The Republican strategy is now to sabotage health insurance markets administratively and use the "collapse" as justification for repeal. http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trumpcare-obamacare-health-care-236387
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Sir Kodiak posted:Hopefully. Seems like they're going to try, though. Oh, so the Democrats prevented them from passing this great piece of legislation that had all of 17% support from the population? I know that's not the angle that they're trying to spin here, but 
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Discendo Vox posted:The Republican strategy is now to sabotage health insurance markets administratively and use the "collapse" as justification for repeal.
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Confounding Factor posted:Yep and I already can see how Trump is gonna spin this. I know he's going to try. But I just don't think its going to work. In 2018, every Democratic candidate will be able to tell voters, in detail, what Republicans tried to do to their heathcare. It's no longer "compare this messy, real-world solution with the fruits of your imagination!" It's "compare Obamacare to Trumpcare" Obamacare can't beat fantasy solutions, but it'll beat the crap out of Trumpcare any day of the decade. And you can't run on fixing Obamacare when, well, your fix was this.
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Badger of Basra posted:https://twitter.com/davidcorndc/status/845361857774931968 Never, because of public care WAITING TIMES
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evilweasel posted:I know he's going to try. But I just don't think its going to work. In 2018, every Democratic candidate will be able to tell voters, in detail, what Republicans tried to do to their heathcare. It's no longer "compare this messy, real-world solution with the fruits of your imagination!" It's "compare Obamacare to Trumpcare" Obamacare can't beat fantasy solutions, but it'll beat the crap out of Trumpcare any day of the decade. And you can't run on fixing Obamacare when, well, your fix was this. My concern is that there have enough power just through HHS to genuinely crater ACA markets, spike premiums, drive insurers out, etc, that a repeal starts seeming plausible to the ignorant public.
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If only they had actually been working on a replacement for the 7 years they were bitching about Obamacare and holding masturbatory votes to repeal that were guaranteed to go nowhere instead of making GBS threads out this half-baked hackjob then maybe they could have passed something. They deserve this; all of it. Hell they deserve more but let's be thankful they fell on their face and balls somehow simultaneously like this.
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