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do u know jenny posted:Can you imagine if it was reversed and Hillary had lost the popular vote but won the election? Rush hedged his bets and did an episode where he talked about how the electoral college was stuffed with liberal elites and how we should prepare to dismantle it if they vote hillary in against the will of the people A week or two after the election he did a section defending the electoral college against Democrats calls to get rid of it
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Son of Rodney posted:The funniest thing is that even when the artist tries to make Trump look way better than he does, the hair still looks goddamn ridiculous. 
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Oh and since I mentioned talk radio, I meant to post this when I heard it earlier in the week, but Herman Cain was talking about the Healthcare bill Tuesday or wednesday, and his little thing is he always calls ACA the UCA, the Unaffordable Care Act. Problem is, he's an addled old man and his show is a train wreck of mixed metaphors and half forgotten talking points, so he kept accidentally calling it the Universal Care Act, which was a nice lol. If any of y'all ain't listened to the show, it's great and hilarious and only got better post-trump. I remember back in the day he was doing his News Nugget section, where he shouts NEWS NUGGET, a little trumpet mp3 plays, then he reads a headline from fox news. Rinse, repeat a dozen times, that's the whole section. Except one time the headline was about a person of the Jewish faith, so he said "JEWS NUGGET! *trumpets* HAHAHAHA. We can cut that, right?" and you can hear his producer quietly and sadly saying "no..."
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Bareback Werewolf posted:I hope we can get the same kind of lols with Republican's tax reform plan. It'd be nice, but I doubt it. If there's anything that will unite the GOP it's loving over poors and the middle class while giving massive tax breaks to the wealthy.
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:Oh and since I mentioned talk radio, I meant to post this when I heard it earlier in the week, but Herman Cain was talking about the Healthcare bill Tuesday or wednesday, and his little thing is he always calls ACA the UCA, the Unaffordable Care Act. Problem is, he's an addled old man and his show is a train wreck of mixed metaphors and half forgotten talking points, so he kept accidentally calling it the Universal Care Act, which was a nice lol. and that's another lol
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scrubs season six posted:It'd be nice, but I doubt it. If there's anything that will unite the GOP it's loving over poors and the middle class while giving massive tax breaks to the wealthy. This is actually what divided the GOP on the health bill. There's a group of congressmen that the rest of the party looked at and went "wow, guys, that's pretty hosed up."
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scrubs season six posted:It'd be nice, but I doubt it. If there's anything that will unite the GOP it's loving over poors and the middle class while giving massive tax breaks to the wealthy. that is pretty much what trumpcare would have done though but their constituents might actually have realized it.
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System Metternich posted:and that's another lol Another time he was ranting about how single payer was the only way to go and how dumb evil Democrats would never allow Americans to have the power of single payer healthcare, and very clearly thought single payer meant an individual paying an insurance company for Healthcare He got to the end of his rant and evidently had someone in his earbud tell him that he had done hosed up so he paused and finished with "and that's why single payer is the worst way to go"
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XMNN posted:either that or a very broken brain "With that said, I was trained to think in an analytical and logical manner that begins first and foremost with the end result" Except he isn't starting with the actual end result (The AHCA massively failing), he's starting with what he hopes the future end result is (Ryan getting ousted). That isn't analytical and logical, it's a logical fallacy (essentially begging the question). Also lol at his argument boiling down to "Trump just massively failed at that thing he based his entire campaign around doing immediately but he'll win in the end because three years from now he'll do something about it." These people literally think that if the Repubs fail at doing anything useful then in 2018 people will vote in different/better repubs instead of just not voting in repubs.
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turn off the TV posted:This is actually what divided the GOP on the health bill. There's a group of congressmen that the rest of the party looked at and went "wow, guys, that's pretty hosed up." What's the ratio of "Wow that's pretty hosed up" to "Hey guys, this isn't hosed up enough" though? I.e. the ones that still called it a massive entitlement like Rand? Regardless, the difference with tax reform is that they can point to numbers that say they're giving EVERYONE a tax break (and therefore loving over no one). Except the tax break for the poor will be $3, the tax break for the middle class will be $300, and the tax break for the 1% will be $3,000,000. And they'll say that they're not really giving the rich a tax break because they're doing away with loopholes but then those parts sill mysteriously disappear during some part of the process or they'll just be ineffective from the outset.
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ny times pegged it at 15 hard liners against, 10 moderates against, and 8 "other" republicans against for a ttoal of 33 probable NO's had they held the vote
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turn off the TV posted:This is actually what divided the GOP on the health bill. There's a group of congressmen that the rest of the party looked at and went "wow, guys, that's pretty hosed up." No, lol you think some of the GOP actually care about people. They ALL want to do the most fuckiest of gently caress over they can possibly do. They want the poor back to dying and going bankrupt, it makes their hedge funds grow like their two inch todgers. But one crowd wanted to do it all in one go, which would have no chance to actually pass the senate. And the other crowd wanted to gently caress half now, gently caress the rest later. Only in the US could a group who wants to do damage to its own population clash over getting to it now or later.
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turn off the TV posted:This is actually what divided the GOP on the health bill. There's a group of congressmen that the rest of the party looked at and went "wow, guys, that's pretty hosed up." You're right, except they didn't really say that, they just thought it and would've voted no. There's no GOP members vehemently saying that, or telling their constituents that other GOP members are trying to gently caress the poors and make the rich richer. Party loyalty and all that. Also, not wanting to be on easy-d's poo poo list. They still want to gently caress the poors and give wealth to the wealthy, but it can't be that obvious, it has to be subtle. That, or it has to be so confusing, they don't know what the gently caress they're doing, but all the other old white rich men are doing it, so why not e: beaten (like the AHCA) ^^^ Cacafuego fucked around with this message at 16:49 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Like, just go to single payer healthcare like every other first world country, Jesus Christ
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Like, just go to single payer healthcare like every other first world country, Jesus Christ You don't even have to do that. Just stop hospitals from ripping people off. $30 for a $0.50 cardboard tray. $50k for something that costs $5k everywhere else in the world. You are paying to sharehold profits, not running costs.
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Cursed Lumberjack posted:Oh and since I mentioned talk radio, I meant to post this when I heard it earlier in the week, but Herman Cain was talking about the Healthcare bill Tuesday or wednesday, and his little thing is he always calls ACA the UCA, the Unaffordable Care Act. Problem is, he's an addled old man and his show is a train wreck of mixed metaphors and half forgotten talking points, so he kept accidentally calling it the Universal Care Act, which was a nice lol. Cursed Lumberjack posted:Another time he was ranting about how single payer was the only way to go and how dumb evil Democrats would never allow Americans to have the power of single payer healthcare, and very clearly thought single payer meant an individual paying an insurance company for Healthcare Actually lolled out loud. Herman Cain is hilarious. I actually followed him on Facebook after his Pokemon movie speech, and he would post all kinds of ridiculous things. There was some video about a man hugging a shark, and even though nothing happened, his talkshow thing declared it some big demonstration about how Obamacare has made people not afraid of getting injured? Or something? Somehow it was Obama's fault. And all the comments were just eating it up in agreement about how Obamacare is destroying the very fabric of reality. No matter what he posted, no matter how ridiculous, all the comments were always full of agreement and hatred for Obama. EXCEPT when he posted about how dangerous weed was, lol.
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happyhippy posted:You don't even have to do that. Then hospitals wouldn't be able to afford to keep running. I'm sure overpaying shareholders is a problem, but you also have all these people getting operations they can't afford because they are literally dying or were unable to afford the preventative medicine and have now been forced to get more expensive treatments. Then the hospitals spend a ton of money trying to squeeze these people for money that simply don't have it, and then have to pass the bill to everyone else. If everyone were insured, they could avoid all that. There are other benefits as well like being able to more effectively negotiate prices, etc. There's no one single cause. And there's no single solution. As President Trump (lol!) once said, "Who knew healthcare could be so complicated?"
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I didn't say that the GOP didn't all want to gently caress people over, just that some of them wanted to gently caress poors enough that even the regular poor fuckers couldn't get on board.
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Lindsey Graham is about to do a live town hall and I expect he'll be savaged for saying they should collapse and replace Obamacare.
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turn off the TV posted:I didn't say that the GOP didn't all want to gently caress people over, just that some of them wanted to gently caress poors enough that even the regular poor fuckers couldn't get on board. But is that what happened? I don't think so. It's worse than that. I'm pretty sure they didn't have the Freedom Caucus votes so it would actually be the opposite. The GOP wanted to gently caress people over hard, but they couldn't get the votes because the hardcore morons thought it didn't gently caress people over enough. NotWearingPants fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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GOP: "Want me to sssssssuck your dick?" trump: "no peg" -a ben gayrison cartoon
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Shadow0 posted:If everyone were insured, they could avoid all that. Actually what we've seen with Obamacare's insurance mandate is the hospitals doubling down on all that.
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System Metternich posted:and that's another lol
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Trump got him! It was Flynn!
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Shadow0 posted:Then hospitals wouldn't be able to afford to keep running. I'm sure overpaying shareholders is a problem, but you also have all these people getting operations they can't afford because they are literally dying or were unable to afford the preventative medicine and have now been forced to get more expensive treatments. Then the hospitals spend a ton of money trying to squeeze these people for money that simply don't have it, and then have to pass the bill to everyone else. If everyone were insured, they could avoid all that. uh it is easy tho? the hospital gets the prices dictated by a federal agency, and bills that agency for operations, that agency finances itself by a federal tax the agency needs to precisely compute prices, rates of reimbursement and strategic triage, add in a free market for operations upgrades (luxury stuff people want but technically dont need etc)
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stop arguing about healthcare and start posting about how trump couldn't convince republicans to repeal obamacare jfc
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NotWearingPants posted:But is that what happened? I don't think so. It's worse than that. Yeah that's basically what I said.
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turn off the TV posted:Yeah that's basically what I said. *clasps hands together* GREAT! Moving on...
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serious healthcare policy chat itt. pro-click video: https://twitter.com/cafedotcom/status/845277043663212544 The gif: https://twitter.com/ToddDracula/status/845321484482547712 Bye bye! LMAO
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Maybe the Art of the Deal is like when DuChamp hung up a toilet in a gallery and called it art
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Entertaining their viewpoints for a moment: For everyone who says the master plan is just stepping back and letting healthcare collapse before coming in and fixing it... Aren't they basically saying they'd be willing to let thousands of citizens die solely to prove their points, instead of just getting back up on the horse and fixing everything ASAP to save those lives? lol
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/845645916732358656 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/845646761704243200
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Oh my god loving Abe Lincoln in a MAGA hat presented unironically at a world class resort. My cup lolleth over!
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XMNN posted:is this real life https://twitter.com/AndrewLofholm/status/845386461524512768
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I remember when Herman Cain dropped out with his Pokemon speech and I thought "welp, there goes all the lols, because nobody can top this loon" and behold I was mistaken for the future held many more lols indeed.
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