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Midnight Voyager posted:I succeed almost every time by sabotaging myself and letting the other guy steal stuff. I am generally more all-around competent than whoever is with me, so it seems to work out. Sometimes the other guy blows himself up, but that's the worst it goes. I feel the same way about wives in Lucifer's Own sometimes. I've had the chick they sent to induct me have really good stats/traits before, so I married her. Like, this bitch has participated in orgies that involve drugs, and midgets, and goatmen, and murder and poo poo. But god help you if you have a lover and she finds out about it. How DARE you?!
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Honky Dong Country posted:I feel the same way about wives in Lucifer's Own sometimes. I've had the chick they sent to induct me have really good stats/traits before, so I married her. Like, this bitch has participated in orgies that involve drugs, and midgets, and goatmen, and murder and poo poo. But god help you if you have a lover and she finds out about it. How DARE you?! Oh god, yeah, I forgot about that, it's the worst. They should be cool with that.
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Mar 24, 2017 18:02
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Midnight Voyager posted:Oh god, yeah, I forgot about that, it's the worst. They should be cool with that. It'd be even funnier if that worked both ways. So if you tried to tell her to stop screwing some other dude, she just raises an eyebrow and goes "Bitch, please. You hosed a satyr or something last Tuesday while a midget motorboated my buttcheeks three feet away."
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Random question: does the "Leper asks to stay, there's no room in the leper colony" event every cause literally anything other than a guy who'll probably die fairly soon to show up in your court?
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Midnight Voyager posted:Random question: does the "Leper asks to stay, there's no room in the leper colony" event every cause literally anything other than a guy who'll probably die fairly soon to show up in your court? I've never had it cause anything bad to happen, but I always assumed there was a chance of somebody else getting leprosy. Can't that event give you the kind trait? It's been a good while since I've seen that event. I like the kind trait.
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Glass of Milk posted:I had the same, and I was so offended I reloaded and went with a holy order instead. "I will swear my soul to the Lord of Darkness. I will defile churches and murder priests. I will sacrifice my own infant children to Satan for the sake of a paltry few more years of life. But there are limits to the depravity of any man, and sir, shagging grannies is mine!"
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Tbh, I felt the same about having my wife gently caress demons. It's different if they're in orgies together, but her being happy about going to gently caress demons was hurtful. I thought we had a better church burning, child murdering relationship with that. Probably why I ate that kid later on tbh, especially as he wasn't of my dynasty what does that event btw look like when you do the unholy impregnation on yourself? edit: how am I not able to ask my buddies to falsely convert too also why the gently caress can't I ask my event-jews to convert? Was landing them and converting them as a player really that much of a problem Paradox? also why the motherfuck does the ruler designer break cheevos? I just don't want to have to restart a buncha times because there isn't an option for "don't make the chosen character hot loving garbage" Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 19:45
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Deceitful Penguin posted:
I wish there was an option where you could design your ruler but just change the dynasty and appearance but still have achievements.
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I cannot believe they charged money for this sometimes. I mean, I got it as part of a package deal but lol also my celibate didn't seem to figure out that his wife probably didn't just give birth to his kid Well, whatever, dynasty before genetics or whatever also holy poo poo, Jewgold makes such a world of goddamn difference; it meant that I could steamroll the dudes attacking me by hiring mercs, which paid for more mercs with some great luck from the trader focus Dude didn't croak at the right time and I now have a dumb kid that aint mine as heir instead of my cool cousin but hey, thems the breaks. At least this run seems to have a possibility of winning? Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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Mar 24, 2017 22:32
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My current king, now emperor, in my middle east just won't loving die. He caught and survived tuberculosis at age 70, and is still kicking at 73. About 10 minutes after this screenshot I made the custom Empire of Mecca.  And to think, I was totally happy to stay a vassal king until I happened to inherit as this guy while he was a secret Shia.
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ShootaBoy posted:My current king, now emperor, in my middle east just won't loving die. He caught and survived tuberculosis at age 70, and is still kicking at 73. The worst thing about being Secret Shiite is that you can't also be an Assassin. I wanna do both dangit. Would be good event fodder too
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Nice! Oh that reminds me! Literally the only thing that's keeping me from being head of the Assassins is the fact that my son and heir, who I inducted, somehow became the head before me. loving go getter, that kid.
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ShootaBoy posted:Oh that reminds me! Literally the only thing that's keeping me from being head of the Assassins is the fact that my son and heir, who I inducted, somehow became the head before me. loving go getter, that kid. Also it feels a bit cheap, but I'm going Jewish as the Solomonids via having a Jew educate my heir. It's gonna be a lil clusterfuck getting everyone online and then another when I swear to the caliph and falsely convert but ehh, that's why I'm in the game. Anyone have the lowdown on societies yet? I really wish there was a good wiki page yet... also I would really, REALLY love an event for theology or something where it's likely you start a religious cult for a random religion I just want secret Jains to erupt in Italy or something. Or your priest councillor doing it and inviting you to secretly convert instead and not just to heresies Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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You can join the assassins with Secretly Shiite but that keeps you from using the secret cult to ensure that your heirs are secretly shiite. I suppose you could join the secret cult long enough to get your heir squared away and then quit to join the assassins though. E: I just realized the inability to do both is exactly what you were talking about, DP. Doh. Deceitful Penguin posted:Also it feels a bit cheap, but I'm going Jewish as the Solomonids via having a Jew educate my heir. It's gonna be a lil clusterfuck getting everyone online and then another when I swear to the caliph and falsely convert but ehh, that's why I'm in the game. You can also just keep Semien under your control by keeping it as a tributary until you consolidate more lands, then conquer it and move the capital there to convert via intrigue decision at your leisure. Honky Dong Country fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Got involved in a bit of an unusual war. We've got the Catholic Empire of Britainnia, the Sunni Sultan of Africa and a few Spanish Muslim Duchies squaring off in a holy war for Catholic Barcelona against the Duke of Barcelona and his neighbour the Aztec Empire. Background: I'm playing England 1066 start. The Aztec Empire invaded in 1076 and despite the guy that found them early being Sunni, he died of illness before the invasion commenced. He didn't have time to convert his 2 year old daughter to Sunni, so the Aztec Empire remained Aztec religion. They promptly take Aquitaine and Burgundy before the Empress dies of in her twenties of smallpox and her infant son takes over. Normal stuff so far. Early on as England I get the event where your spouse visits another realm and you get the option to form a non-aggressive pact. Got to buddy up with a small 2 county Sunni duke in the SE of Spain. All his neighbours are much bigger Muslim dukes, so I bump us up to a full alliance. Figure I can curb the Muslim megadukes getting too big by protecting my ally and helping him chip a few counties off them. Call it a side project. All going well, as I transition to Britannia I occasionally pop down with 10k troops to help out my buddy with adventurers. Help him grab a few provinces too. I get another request for help, accepted it without reading and found out I'm now helping him holy war Barcelona. Checked around and the church didn't seem to care that a Christian Emperor was helping a Muslim Duke attack Barcelona in the name of Allah. Just as I'm loading everyone onto boats, I see the the Aztec Empire's 1000 strong stack of event boats flip to red. The Aztec Empire and their 70000 event troops has joined the side of Barcelona to defend Christendom. At some point in the last two years the child emperor of the aztecs apparently jumped from Aztec to Christian without me realising. Wondering how I can speed up losing this war because the Aztecs are still sitting on event troops, I realise I can use tainted touch on the child emperor now we're at war. Checking his court, his heir and all his vassals are still in the Aztec religion, he's the only convert. Wasn't sure if the Aztecs no longer being Christian would be enough to knock them out of this holy war once they'd already joined, but decided to give it a shot. Gave him the flu. Decided to save and call it there, will deal with this clusterfuck tomorrow.
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A 12 year old Hindu Bharmin girl mystic came to my court, after making me fast and do a bunch of drugs Im immortal now, Im going to marry her to my attractive son and start the Kwisatz Haderach Project. Welp edit: the child mystic turned immortal too, she turned 16, still locked as a child portrait, can never marry. Im 50 years old and immortal, my wife dies of dysentery, and I start to seduce the 16 year old by random event. Gaj fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Ahahahahaha My genius plan to have my son be educated Jewish failed because he was the only unlanded male and my dynastic Merchant republic named him heir And for some reason I can't convert to a local religion as Miaphysite ? ugh ahahaha their holy order has no final level power and the bonuses to devotion are all off by a decimal point Guys, I think I found the guys they care less about than the West African Pagans Is there no way for me to trigger them falsely converting? Is it literally only something that the player can do? Or what? also lol the de jure capital of Abyssinia is Gondar, not Aksum what a joke edit edit: I savescummed ahead of time (this is ironman) and I tried something I thought might work; by making my son into a merc captain, he's now the proper heir instead of the other sucker because he technically has a title magic Deceitful Penguin fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Ahahahahaha I've done the land-based religious conversion before as a Miaphysite. Make sure the person you're trying to get to do it isn't zealous and has whatever prestige/piety is required (I forget which and how much). But usually if the option isn't available, I find that it's because I didn't realize my dude was zealous. If they are take the scholarship focus and trade it for cynical via the observatory events. I know you got your poo poo straight but just for future reference.
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Oh my god this guy is never going to die. He is now 85! Is it possible for your own character to secretly be an immortal? Cause I can't think of why else he hasn't croaked yet. edit: He finally died of old age at 86. edit edit: Also found a bug. If you become a character who is already the Grandmaster of the Assassins, the achievement doesn't pop 
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ShootaBoy posted:Oh my god this guy is never going to die. He is now 85! Is it possible for your own character to secretly be an immortal? Cause I can't think of why else he hasn't croaked yet. My 90-year-old Basilissa with a martial score of 41, two rival skulls in her treasury, and a history of five kills in duels strangled a snake and became immortal. Old happens!
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I had a non-Immortal guy live to 96. He had survived his first son and his first son's son, so the Empire of Britannia went to some backwater German homosexual. The people of the isles were not happy about that.
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Messing with console commands, I made my character and his wife have the same stats of Immortal, Strong, Genius, Fair, Ambitious, Lusty. The wife immediately went seducer focus. 100 years in, I check their oppinion of each other. His opinion of her is -1200 because of the affairs she keeps having and he keeps finding out about because she was his spymaster and kept finding the affairs 
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Honky Dong Country posted:I've done the land-based religious conversion before as a Miaphysite. Make sure the person you're trying to get to do it isn't zealous and has whatever prestige/piety is required (I forget which and how much). But usually if the option isn't available, I find that it's because I didn't realize my dude was zealous. If they are take the scholarship focus and trade it for cynical via the observatory events. but yeah, its always good to share knowledge about thangs 
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My uncle is the grand master of the Knights of Calatrava. Can you grant people baronies if they're not part of your realm or do you have to invite them first to be able to do that?
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You should be able to grant land to Holy Orders by right-clicking on their grandmaster. This should also work for Religious heads. e: But I don't think they're going to become your vassals. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:You should be able to grant land to Holy Orders by right-clicking on their grandmaster. This should also work for Religious heads. I just wasn't sure if it had to be counties but I just granted him a barony inside the county. Will he take the vassalization offer now or will I have to declare war first? I can't check the vassalization because he just went to war a second after he got the barony  e: Seems he won't take vassalization because of a few too many negatives. I can declare war on him to claim the barony for its previous owner but I think all that will do will just kick him out and won't lead to me getting control of the order. hmmm. Sultan Tarquin fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Sultan Tarquin posted:I just wasn't sure if it had to be counties but I just granted him a barony inside the county. Will he take the vassalization offer now or will I have to declare war first? I can't check the vassalization because he just went to war a second after he got the barony To get a holy order to accept vassalization you need to be an emperor, and you need to grant them a duchy title that is a de jure vassal of yours. If they are not the same culture, you will likely have to bribe them heavily as well.
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Clanpot Shake posted:I had a non-Immortal guy live to 96. He had survived his first son and his first son's son, so the Empire of Britannia went to some backwater German homosexual. The people of the isles were not happy about that. I hate it when the game just reruns history.
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ShootaBoy posted:edit edit: Also found a bug. If you become a character who is already the Grandmaster of the Assassins, the achievement doesn't pop
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Angstrom Gothington posted:To get a holy order to accept vassalization you need to be an emperor, and you need to grant them a duchy title that is a de jure vassal of yours. If they are not the same culture, you will likely have to bribe them heavily as well. Fair enough. I was reading up and there are ways involving granting land, inviting the heir then pressing their claim. I figured I'd try it since the leader is my close kin but I did it totally wrong.
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why the heck isn't there an option to ask people to FALSELY CONVERT UGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
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hey man, I just want you to become an ironic Jew *points him out to the liege lord* JEEEEWWW!!!
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Your spymaster is suspicious that a vassal has converted to Judaism just for the jokes.
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CrazyLoon posted:hey man, I just want you to become an ironic Jew Inducting kids also being only open for a brief as hell window (why not just have different events for before/after 12?) and how easily people leave them is annoying as heck. Chexoid posted:Your spymaster is suspicious that a vassal has converted to Judaism just for the jokes.
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winterwerefox posted:Messing with console commands, I made my character and his wife have the same stats of Immortal, Strong, Genius, Fair, Ambitious, Lusty. The wife immediately went seducer focus. 100 years in, I check their oppinion of each other. His opinion of her is -1200 because of the affairs she keeps having and he keeps finding out about because she was his spymaster and kept finding the affairs   Five times as hated in half the time. Try harder, scrub.  To be fair I think I took these screenshots before they made the AI a little less bone-happy
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Clanpot Shake posted:I had a non-Immortal guy live to 96. He had survived his first son and his first son's son, so the Empire of Britannia went to some backwater German homosexual. The people of the isles were not happy about that. I was going to say this didn't get enough love but Charles died when he was 55 unless my math is horrifically wrong.
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Deceitful Penguin posted:"It is not that I oppose the conversion on theological grounds or in my capacity as spymaster my lord, but as your court jester" Do it for ye Lollards!
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I wrote a magnum opus and lo, it was good. But it requires 20 learning to activate so it's not likely my successors will benefit.. Oh well. We need more societies and related cool stuff, besides the power of Satan and the pretty great anti stress potion / magnum opus of the hermetics there doesn't seem to be much to the mechanic right now TorakFade fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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TorakFade posted:But it requires 20 learning to activate so it's not likely my successors will benefit.. Oh well. I think you'll find that's 20 learning OR being in the hermetic society. It definitely encourages you to make it a dynastic habit. quote:We need more societies and related cool stuff Yes, yes we do. Get modding please
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