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Dracorion posted:I'm going to assume the reason Merlyn was barely in this episode is because he actually physically travelled into the musical dream sequence in the Flash/Supergirl crossover.
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Space Crabs posted:Cisco just vibed him into the dream, somehow No, he used to be R'as Al Ghul.
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Invalid Validation posted:They should probably get rid of Firestorm if they can't scrounge up a little money to copy paste the fire gun effects to him. I think he's been in suit like twice this season. Jax really should have been Cyborg instead like everyone thought he was gonna be when they first hinted at his character. They probably didn't realize how expensive Firestorm would be in a regular role. I agree though, Firestorm probably should be shelved, but in a way that lets Victor Garber and Franz Drameh stay on the show because the Jax/Stein double act is just too good to lose. E: Thinking about this episode again with the thread title in mind, I love Mick's callback "WHAT IS IT WITH NAZIS?" And I said out loud "Mick, they're not Nazis!" and then like a second later Nate said it too on the show. This show just keeps getting better and better. Doomworld's gonna be loving great 
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Mar 23, 2017 19:34
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I think it's less about how expensive Firestorm is than how over-powered he is. Dude can fly, shoot fireballs, is impervious to most radiation, and can transmute materials. I'm really surprised that they haven't created in show reasons to Nerf him like "can only be joined for 10 minutes every 24 hours" or something like that. Then they would have to make strategic use out of his powers.
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Mar 23, 2017 19:41
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True but Ray is arguably just as powerful and they show him flying around and being small all the time.
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I'm not really sure Ray is as powerful. His suit seems pretty fragile and gets sidelined pretty quickly.
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bull3964 posted:I'm not really sure Ray is as powerful. His suit seems pretty fragile and gets sidelined pretty quickly. I dunno, the suit was strong enough to allow him to thrash a giant robot at giant size (once he stole power from the Waverider's engines to enlarge him and the suit)
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The suit is very powerful, but Ray is a constant gently caress-up.
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Mar 23, 2017 22:50
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Burning_Monk posted:The suit is very powerful, but
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"There's still hope! Maybe they don't know how to use it!" *cut to league headquarters* "okay so I got the book that tells us exactly how to use it"
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Ray is handsome so of course they're gonna spend money on his effects shots.
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Burning_Monk posted:The suit is very powerful, but
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Burning_Monk posted:The suit is very powerful, but
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Mar 24, 2017 05:45
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well I mean she does a certain kind and I'm sure it has a direction to it at some point 
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Firestorm isn't that powerful, he got beat down by that Stargirl pretty easily
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WhyteRyce posted:Firestorm isn't that powerful, he got beat down by that Stargirl pretty easily Stargirl's staff apparently had the power to recreate all of Camelot so uh I'm not thinking they're on the same level.
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Chokes McGee posted:Stargirl's staff apparently had the power to recreate all of Camelot so uh I'm not thinking they're on the same level. Stargirl's staff had the Spear of Destiny fragment in it, though. Firestorm is definitely ignored a lot of the time when it would be useful to throw fireballs or transmute stuff, but it's been pretty consistent that he's not super durable - if he gets hit hard, he'll be knocked out or forced apart most of the time.
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Phenotype posted:Stargirl's staff had the Spear of Destiny fragment in it, though. I just roll my eyes everytime the plan is to keep Jax and Stein separated on a mission. It's like, "Everyone is great at fighting except you two are useless when separated, so we'll separate you..."
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It's also established that plain Jax can beat evil Firestorm
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WhyteRyce posted:It's also established that plain Jax can beat evil Firestorm all that establishes is that Rip thinks Firestorm is weak as hell. e:  lol No Butt Stuff fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Mar 24, 2017 |
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No Butt Stuff posted:all that establishes is that Rip thinks Firestorm is weak as hell. I was gonna say that Rip probably didn't know how powerful Firestorm is because he didn't see Jax transmute the Dominator bomb and was shocked that he turned the spear case into jelly beans. But that's not true, he was there when Jax transmuted Vandal Savage's bomb into water at the end of season 1 and when Stein basically ate that crazy Russian lady's nuke when she tried to become Soviet Firestorm, so...?  Maybe Rip's just a dumbass 
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Chokes McGee posted:"There's still hope! Maybe they don't know how to use it!" I'm betting the book is a fake out by the
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nine-gear crow posted:Maybe Rip's just a dumbass He's on The Adventures of Captain Sarah Lance: Time Lesbian - And Her Idiots. So obviously he's an idiot not a dumbass...
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Hughlander posted:I just roll my eyes everytime the plan is to keep Jax and Stein separated on a mission. It's like, "Everyone is great at fighting except you two are useless when separated, so we'll separate you..." Stein is really strong but only when he's on his own, like when he beat a crew of Time Pirates in s1. Space Ranger Stein rocked.
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Space Crabs posted:Whenever they jump somewhere they basically just act like they don't have a time machine anymore for awhile. We should talk to JRR Toll-Keen He was a soldier in WWI Lets go to WW1 and inexplicably stay there! Err how about we just go visit him outside of the war - he was a public figure we probably know exactly where he was for 3/4 of his life. The LoTR/Hobbit feeders to him would have been cute if they hadn't already done it for Lucas and Star Wars. How did the Legion know where the Idiots were to send Snart and Dharararch after them?
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Licarn posted:They should have used the spear to remove the spear itself from reality. Mr Beens posted:JRR Toll-Keen
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Tiggum posted:I really hope someone suggests this to them next episode and they're just like "poo poo. That would have worked." It's pronounced toll-key-en.
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Piell posted:It's pronounced toll-key-en. It's not. Refer to his wikipedia article which sources how the author himself pronounced his name.
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I was practically yelling at my screen when they were talking about having to retrieve the vial from an active battlefield. You have a loving time machine, just go back before the battle, or forward to after the battle!?! Thawne is right, you are idiots.
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Also I don't know if it was this thread or the flash thread but someone said Sara was the exception to the "They're Idiots" rule but she keeps trusting all of the idiots to do really important things even when she knows they'll probably gently caress it up, making her an idiot.
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Don't call us heroes, we're time morons.
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Invalid Validation posted:Don't call us heroes, we're time morons. Mick is right. Who wrote this crap?
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GreenNight posted:Mick is right. This is what makes me think the writers really are self-aware about the writing and are leaning into it this season.
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Mr Beens posted:How did the Legion know where the Idiots were to send Snart and Dharararch after them? They assumed that the Legends would be at the absolutely worst time to try and obtain the vial.
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"This samurai sword will cut the spear, allowing us to finally destroy it" "Sounds great where is it" "It's buried in an ancient burial ground in the middle of Hiroshima" "Gideon set course for August 6th 1945"
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Licarn posted:They should have used the spear to remove the spear itself from reality. We have nothin to spear but spear itself. Amaya actually suggested it first, but the idea was shot down by Sara.
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Licarn posted:They should have used the spear to remove the spear itself from reality. Send it to the 31st century, where it's found by the Persuader who turns it into an axe that can cut through anything up to and including time itself, and the bad guys in the next season are the Fatal Five.
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Piell posted:It's pronounced toll-key-en. All the Legends said it the other way, while someone on the League side said toll-key-en. I like to think it was intentional.
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WhyteRyce posted:"This samurai sword will cut the spear, allowing us to finally destroy it"  
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