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Jobbo_Fett posted:Why would you leave the trench?! The British's foolishness of leaving the trenches open drew them into a false sense of security. The British had a rough start, but right now they're in as good a position as they could hope for. The Germans are only a little bit past the river, and they'll have to fight real hard to get further. At this rate they'll never reach Coq.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:05
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Crazycryodude posted:Oh my god what the hell even is this game anymore Seriously it is so completely random and dumb at this point.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:08
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SlothfulCobra posted:The British's foolishness of leaving the trenches open drew them into a false sense of security. Units move further than I thought and it looked like the Germans in the trench abandoned the trench to try and cross the river. I still think it was silly of them to attack out of the blob, but  c'est la vie
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Mar 26, 2017 03:28
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Ughhh Germany just ugh. Your opponent builds you a perfectly good fighting position, that you occupied FOR FREE and you say: nah gonna just go faff around in this open field for a few hours.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:30
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The Germans in the trench all died when they took a little jaunt up north past the occupied British trench. The dudes out in the open field are new infantry.
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Mar 26, 2017 03:41
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SlothfulCobra posted:The Germans in the trench all died when they took a little jaunt up north past the occupied British trench. The dudes out in the open field are new infantry. I misread/remembered their orders. Either way if you take a fighting position your opponent built, you should maybe consider that they are going to want to use it, and will probably walk right into you if you just sit and wait. It's that scene from Band of Brothers where Easy is in a perfect ambush position but Sobel gets antsy and gets everyone killed but with pixelmans. Eta: steinrokkan flipping his poo poo in the German thread worth the price of admission though. BUG JUG fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 04:39
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The Germans are still in a good position -- not the winning position they could have gained that round, but still okay. As long as they hold their ground for the moment and don't try to push hard until their reinforcements arrive, the BEF can't really do much to them. The cavalry move out of the trench was yet another time when they were saying, "it'd be really bad if there were units in this direction... so let's ignore that option since it's too terrible to imagine". Perfect information would have them stop in the North, and actually bring more force in the South to take the trench, but since the southern bridge crossing feels like a mistake, they're probably less likely to capitalize on it.
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Mar 26, 2017 04:59
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Primo salt from Stein in the German thread, 10/10. You'd think that after the last round AND MULTIPLE PEOPLE INCLUDING TRIN EXPLICITLY POINTING IT OUT AS A MAJOR FLAW IN THE POSTMORTEM, they'd stop splitting their forces and halfassing two things instead of wholeassing one.
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Mar 26, 2017 05:03
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Well the Germans a trying to focus all their forces in the north, they're just trying to blindly charge through enemy territory to do so. I guess they thought the entirety of the British Army was hiding in Effyaders. That's why they've lost two units of cavalry by sending them charging away from perfectly defensible positions. I suppose it's nice to try to make use of the cavalry's mobility, but it didn't work out at all.
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Mar 26, 2017 06:04
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Developing a position properly takes time, and as was mentioned during the last battle is it seems there is no patience by the leaders in either army to wait and get intelligence. Both armies are blundering around groping in the dark for some sight of the enemy when really they ought to have sent out scouts, formed a battle line, and deliberately engaged (or maneuvered into an advantageous position, or if charged hopefully held until reinforcements arrived). Instead the brigadiers in both groups seem destined to forever use their units as bludgeons as opposed to scalpels. This battle has in no way been a serious engagement but instead a series of running skirmishes that have cost both sides large numbers of completely avoidable losses. I am waiting for a commander to figure out they can space out their companies to better cover their area of responsibility and reduce the risk of everyone getting mowed down by a hot set of rolls (and provide a line of reserves that can continue to hold position rather than having the entire brigade rout every single time the two sides meet).
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Mar 26, 2017 06:13
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The british have old, wrong intel about where the german arty is, whereas the germans have accurate intel on where the british arty is. However the british seem more interested in counter-battery than the germans. Utter chaos. this game is so good. edit: some idiot on the german side just leaked their own maps in the tg recruitment thread. Splode fucked around with this message at 08:02 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 07:49
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Lol tilt incoming. As punishment for posting Intel to an open thread trin should slice the German map into sixths, roll a die, and give the Brits the corresponding section. Say it was dropped by a dead kraut brigadier. (I'm not serious) BUG JUG fucked around with this message at 08:08 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 08:04
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To be frank, not painting that trench on the German map was a huge oversight. I doubt they would have tried manoeuvring north if they had seen it.
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Mar 26, 2017 08:08
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Looks like the Germans are throwing in the towel! God drat you Trin, you've got me on a WWI trip, I'm doing An LP of the AGEOD game, reading Ring of steel, I've just prepped a division of British troops for painting - and now I'm watching Tony Robinsons WWI while pinned under a sleeping baby. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 09:22
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I wonder what the Entente are going to make of this announcement.
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Mar 26, 2017 09:49
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I hate this mentality. The moment something goes wrong, people on the losing side are DOOMED, DOOMED! and ready to quit. Everyone's only willing to play as long as they're winning. EDIT: At least Flesnok should have resigned just for himself, not for the whole team. But he's basically saying "sorry everyone who still wants to play - tough luck, I don't." markus_cz fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 09:52
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It looks like hes going to be replaced by his men. Just play it like Moltke having his nervious breakdown....
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Mar 26, 2017 10:03
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Yeah, just shoot him for cowardice and replace him.
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Mar 26, 2017 11:16
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Clearly the map-post in the TG Recruitment thread was a subtle psyops attack on the BEF. Any honorable BEF soldier would have to resign from battle over having illegal knowledge after seeing the maps.
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Mar 26, 2017 13:19
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It marvels how these sorts of threads keep popping up when it plays out the same. THE ROCK PAPER SCISSORS THREAD PLAYED OUT THE SAME
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Mar 26, 2017 13:43
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Wow, Steinrokkan is loving PISSED.
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Mar 26, 2017 13:51
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For good reason, I'd say.
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Mar 26, 2017 14:45
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 What the hell did I wake up to. E: Ah, the Spirit of Sandman yet lives Crazycryodude fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Mar 26, 2017 15:35
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Internet generals are giant babies, film in the German thread. (Hope all this poo poo talking I've been doing doesn't count against me when I join a side for next round)
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Mar 26, 2017 15:44
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Any match that ends with the Germans west of La Dand is some kind of victory, even if they're having problems establishing themselves west of the river. Who ever heard of a WWI general quitting because he felt bad about ordering men to their deaths?
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Mar 26, 2017 16:31
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I get their frustration. The results don't read right. The turns are just wipeouts of one side or the other. Maybe the sequences are too long or the orders are too rigid or something but it's actually stressful to read as an observer. Game developers know that you can't keep saying "they're not playing it right" eventually you have to acknowledge it's setting them up. And yeah, real war is all hell but this is still a game.
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Mar 26, 2017 17:18
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I think xthetenth's battle doctrine has become popular after the last battle because everyone just keeps charging blindly. And countercharching. Without knowing what's there or stopping to spot, plan or wait for artillery. Except that little firefight down by the bridge, people seem to have forsaken rifles. It's bayonets all the way... that's why the battle is so brutal and unpredictable. I mean, at the very least I'd expect conditionals like "if the enemy is about half strength compared to us, charge, otherwise stop and use rifles." Nope, it's always charging under all circumstances. Maximum élan!
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Mar 26, 2017 18:10
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On the one hand, the Germans seriously don't deserve this bullshit. They're putting in tons of work. Jaguars, oystertoadfish, or Saros are working their asses off, aphid is always there in the background, they never stop talking. They keep losing in exchanges in spite of that work, not because of it. On the other, gently caress is that army doomed to always get the dregs to go with the best. Flesnolk was doing okay as Corps commander - I, for one, know just how much work it is to check the minutiae and make sure everything is sorted, and that it is not an easy job at all to herd all those cats - but mentally he broke to an absolutely disgraceful level.
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Mar 26, 2017 20:31
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Yeah, just Oystertoadfish alone is a one-man staff department, he's incredible. It's interesting to watch, really. The Germans could be absolutely hammering the Entente if the ghost of Sandman, memories of Dejeuner, and a few other problems weren't haunting them so much.
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Mar 26, 2017 20:37
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In the German thread posted:Oh, right, those guys still exist... Hopefully for once things go our way and they fail to respond. 
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Mar 26, 2017 21:30
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Well, Tatonkatonk's new orders seem like he gets it, at least. Hopefully he can keep it up.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:25
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What's most amazing is that one absurdly lucky cavalry charge last game made everyone magically forget the half-dozen or more suicidal charges against entrenched positions from that exact same game.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:34
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Corbeau posted:What's most amazing is that one absurdly lucky cavalry charge last game made everyone magically forget the half-dozen or more suicidal charges against entrenched positions from that exact same game. What charges against entrenched positions?
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Mar 26, 2017 23:02
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Corbeau posted:What's most amazing is that one absurdly lucky cavalry charge last game made everyone magically forget the half-dozen or more suicidal charges against entrenched positions from that exact same game. WWI.txt
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Mar 26, 2017 23:25
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Honestly, I think the powers that be really just need a reminder that they're not actually expected to go further then the middle of the map anyway, short of grand shows of success.
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Mar 26, 2017 23:58
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Are you trying to imply that the glorious and infallible German/Entente general staff can't manage a breakthrough and be in Paris/Berlin by Christmas? 
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Mar 27, 2017 00:04
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Corbeau posted:What's most amazing is that one absurdly lucky cavalry charge last game made everyone magically forget the half-dozen or more suicidal charges against entrenched positions from that exact same game. Sure those all failed, but the one successful charge shows that it will work, eventually. So the faster bayonet charges are ordered, the faster we will eventually succeed!
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Mar 27, 2017 00:08
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Oh man, have I chosen a good moment to finally start reading this. 
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Mar 27, 2017 09:27
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I'm interested by the new southern defencive line, it seems to give up a lot of land and give the Germans a lot of land to cover, something like my red line below would be move efficient.
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Mar 27, 2017 09:41
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