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MassRafTer posted:Hogan's plans after that were main event matches against Nash, Hall and Yokozuna (the nWo not being conceived yet) so if that was his plan he didn't plan ahead well. If Sullivan was trying to do anything it would be hard to tell as Hogan wanted to go harder on putting himself over, he wanted Pillman included in the match. Oh it's almost certainly like Kevin Sullivan is full of poo poo. I do think it's hilarious that Hogan was trying to make it even more ludicrous. Did he want to go over Bruno Sammartino and Superstar Billy Graham in a handicap match? Tokyo Sexwale fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Mar 25, 2017 |
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Jason Sextro posted:Oh it's almost certainly like Kevin Sullivan is full of poo poo. I do think it's hilarious that Hogan was trying to make it even more ludicrous. Did he want to go over Bruno Sammartino and Superstar Billy Graham in a handicap match? No they wanted to bring Bruno in to team with Larry, Arn and Orndorff and feud with The Powers That/To be during Russo's first run.
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MassRafTer posted:No they wanted to bring Bruno in to team with Larry, Arn and Orndorff and feud with The Powers That/To be during Russo's first run. 
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MassRafTer posted:No they wanted to bring Bruno in to team with Larry, Arn and Orndorff and feud with The Powers That/To be during Russo's first run. 
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MassRafTer posted:WCW is like six degrees of Kevin Bacon, except you are taking a joke about WCW and figuring out something related to the joke that was even dumber. Kevin Bacon was in Frost/Nixon with Oliver Platt
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Alright. So Vince Russo is poo poo. You know it. I know it. Everybody except Dixie Carter and Jeff Jarrett knows it. But in the name of fairness, and in the name that we mean the above statement objectively, not subjectively, let's take this opportunity to compliment Russo on all the good things he did in WCW. (Or at least good things that happened on his watch. I dunno, I don't know how to separate the two). - He made Sid a completely serviceable and believable #2 face. - Roddy Piper has never been more tolerable in WCW than he was during the Russo era (Because he had an actual character and motivation and wasn't given the stick for 10 minutes on end to rant about RuPaul). - The Lex Luger reinvention as chickshit heel "The Total Package" has been surprisingly amazing. - His greatest triumph - Screamin' Norman Smiley. - The Revolution vs. Filthy Animals sucked and went on way too long and had no rooting interest, but at least he was giving the right guys camera time. - I count his fixation on the youth movement as a net positive, even if in 1999 WCW had very few legitimately worthwhile young talents (I probably blame the power plant for this). - Made David Flair entertaining. Which should be impossible. ChrisBTY fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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ChrisBTY posted:Alright. Is this sarcasm? I want it to be sarcasm.
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I, for one, cannot believe Vince Russo succeeded in taking a guy who had been a main eventer for years, and was a main eventer in WCW well before Russo was in the company, and made him into a main eventer.
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Look, I am REALLY trying to be nice here and giving him credit for things he probably doesn't deserve I know. Is there a nicer way to say 'He made Sid suck less than he had for his entire career up until that point'
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rare Magic card l00k posted:I, for one, cannot believe Vince Russo succeeded in taking a guy who had been a main eventer for years, and was a main eventer in WCW well before Russo was in the company, and made him into a main eventer. Hasn't he proven subsequently that he can't really get anyone over? All those people were already over.
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David Flair's match with El Dandy was pretty drat entertaining though, but that might have nothing to do with Russo.
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The best idea Russo ever had was The Brood.
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Jason Sextro posted:David Flair's match with El Dandy was pretty drat entertaining though, but that might have nothing to do with Russo. Who are you to doubt Vince Russo?
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rare Magic card l00k posted:I, for one, cannot believe Vince Russo succeeded in taking a guy who had been a main eventer for years, and was a main eventer in WCW well before Russo was in the company, and made him into a main eventer. are we talking about Lex or Sid
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ChrisBTY posted:Alright. The Total Package started before Russo came aboard and Sid has been entertaining this whole run.
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No way, Sid's stuff with Savage and Steiner was garbo.
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Russo continues to get people to believe that he was somehow singlehandedly responsible for the Attitude Era and ignore his WCW and TNA disasters, I'm confused about why he would need defending.
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Because I feel like 391 pages of making GBS threads is fairly balanced by 1-2 pages of praise. Seems like a decent ratio for Russo.
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One of the only checkmarks people cede to Russo is "he tries to get new people over," but even that is immediately followed by, "even though he has absolutely no idea how to do so."
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Russo called Hogan a politicking piece of poo poo on live TV and got him to go away so he's got that in his favor
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Endorph posted:on the list of which wcw bookers hated black people the most, russo is probably like 3rd or 4th from the top? he just hated women, mexicans, and the japanese
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Endorph posted:on the list of which wcw bookers hated black people the most, russo is probably like 3rd or 4th from the top? Ole, Bill Watts and the Nature Boy are a strong top of the order
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MassRafTer posted:No they wanted to bring Bruno in to team with Larry, Arn and Orndorff and feud with The Powers That/To be during Russo's first run. I've always been amazed he didn't squash David Sammartino during his very short run there in order to prove some sort of an insane point.
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triplexpac posted:Zbysko constantly putting himself over on commentary to the detriment of everything else is amazing. Soon after Spicolli died Out of respect to Louie's family, I will not comment
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triplexpac posted:Zbysko constantly putting himself over on commentary to the detriment of everything else is amazing. Isn't that kind of what he's always done in every situation?
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exploded mummy posted:he just hated women, mexicans, and the japanese with the mexicans and japanese i think he was just extremely close minded about what could draw in wrestling and didnt actually hate them dude loving loathes women tho, yeah
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Endorph posted:with the mexicans and japanese i think he was just extremely close minded about what could draw in wrestling and didnt actually hate them he booked all the Mexican wrestlers in a pinata on the pole match that ended with Dr Death Steve Williams stealing a $10,000 check and sending 3 men to the hospital
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exploded mummy posted:he booked all the Mexican wrestlers in a pinata on the pole match that ended with Dr Death Steve Williams stealing a $10,000 check and sending 3 men to the hospital what is with russo and pole matches anyway
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The inherent erect penis aesthetic of a pole reaffirms his specific brand of masculinity in an otherwise homoerotic sport -- or he's a perpetual teenager who thinks dicks are hilarious. Either way, it's all about dicks.
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triplexpac posted:Zbysko constantly putting himself over on commentary to the detriment of everything else is amazing. Where and when did Zbysko become a name? I'm only familiar with his work as an announcer on Nitro.
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I thought the "X on a pole" match was designed to get all the drama and tension of a ladder match, (will they/wont they manage to get the thing), but at a greatly reduced risk of injury. Although the way that Russo booked them willy-nilly, and often with ludicrous things on the pole, (even though it was technically a forklift, I think it was still billed as a Judy Bagwell on a pole match), the "drama" was often not there.
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Nystral posted:Where and when did Zbysko become a name? I'm only familiar with his work as an announcer on Nitro. He had a big feud with Bruno Sammartino in WWE
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