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Anyone feel the bit with the deer a bit heavy handed? I really liked how psycho-jack was drawn and posed up. His poses were all something youd see a villain/unsophisticated thug in a samurai movie do: hand always on sword, baggy robes, the works. Also about the moralizing killing humans but: its not that its easy for jack now, imo, but that hes accepted, or is beginning to refind, his path now, and the fact that humans may be in the way of that. His decisions and actions show who he really is: a samurai, a warrior and a survivor. Rigged Death Trap fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Mar 26, 2017 |
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Anyone feel the bit with the deer a bit heavy handed? Bust Rodd posted:I'm 100% that the speech Jack recites is what the bandit lord trying to kill his father says before he gets totally owned, and that was why the scene was so heavy for me, because it signifies that Jack is not choosing to defend himself so much as he is choosing to trap and kill them. Like, he draws first blood with his two opening shots and it goes am from there, he could have easily kept running. I think this means that the rest of the season is Jack taking the fight to Aku.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:20
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Anyone feel the bit with the deer a bit heavy handed? Nah, that's...actually completely realistic for kids who are THAT badly damaged. There are actually abused kids like that where affection actually feels threatening to them; it activates feelings that're so foreign to them, that they literally do not know how to handle it. If that's the case, it's only natural that they want it dead.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:33
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Anyone feel the bit with the deer a bit heavy handed? I might have totally misread the scene but I saw it as supposed to be a brief moment of comedy. They're talking about how the bigger deer is a blessing from Aku and they're so confused by kissing existing that they forget what they're doing.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:34
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Oh and I know their physiques are supposed to be stylized but i cant help but think that Jack was being a hunted by a pack of Dexter's Moms.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:45
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I mean we saw in the first episode that the kids were prevented from seeing any of the outside world at all, when Ashi sneaks a peek. It makes sense that they don't know what a deer is. The deer being absurdly cute is a nice touch. edit: it's not something that's kept up but I liked the creepy shot of the Daughters swimming sideways so that their masks are always facing the camera, like Aku's face.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:46
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mycot posted:I mean we saw in the first episode that the kids were prevented from seeing any of the outside world at all, when Ashi sneaks a peek. Yeah...not a very smart move, in hindsight.
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Mar 26, 2017 22:49
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nerdbot posted:I might have totally misread the scene but I saw it as supposed to be a brief moment of comedy. They're talking about how the bigger deer is a blessing from Aku and they're so confused by kissing existing that they forget what they're doing. I mean, if it was going to be totally played for comedy, there were certain other (off-camera) ways the buck "devouring" the doe could've gone.  Really, though, I think it was just one last thing to drive home just how warped their childhoods were; they literally can't conceive innocence like that, and were so horribly confused by it that they almost lash out at them to make it stop. Assuming Ashi survived the fall, and she and Jack later have to band together to survive, I'd imagine there'll probably be another such incident of her being so hopelessly confused by something as innocent as that that clues Jack in to just how horrible her life has been.
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Mar 26, 2017 23:14
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Jack and Aku have been in a literal stalemate for 50 years with one being unable to kill the other. I'm thinking the theory jack isn't going to make it to the end of the series is correct. Jack will realize that he cannot defeat Aku in a direct confrontation, and that just as he was trained, he will pass on the knowledge. He'll realize that the burden is not his alone. Jack will die in an Obi-won sort of way, completely at peace with the events as they unfold, and just as Aku starts to gloat at finally gaining the upper hand Aki will step in, and Aku will realize with absolute horror that even if he defeats her, there will be another to replace her and so forth. He may not even "die", but suffer a fate of being eternally crippled by fear unable to leave his lair else he may die. Also, am I the only one to think this is a little too thematically identical to not be intentional? 
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Mar 26, 2017 23:58
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Fionordequester posted:"But he hasn't even ayyyyyyyged... I mean like at all! He jus' grew that stuuuuupid BEARD...it looks like'll be here FOREVARRRRRGGGGGHHHHH!! I...I jus' don't know if, I can HANDLE that, eh..." Patient Aku: Well, I just assumed that eventually over time he would just Both Akus: DIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE Interesting that both Jack and Aku have conversations with themselves.
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Well we know Ashi's gonna survive since Jack fell too. Her two remaining sisters might live, too, to keep the hunting theme going. Wanna see a buddy cop episode where Jack is stuck to a ranting Ashi by her scythe-chain somehow and has to pack her around and listen to her insane ranting while going 
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I am guessing that Jack gets suckered in to the dark side or dies and gets Aku-Robocopped into the green shogun thing and Ashli will complete Jacks mission, but possibly only after defeating Jack. Like Jack maybe shows Ashi what life could be like, but then they are captured.
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Mar 27, 2017 01:20
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I think jack will go back in time and defeats aku, though not neccesarily in that order.
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Mar 27, 2017 01:46
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The Green/Skull Samurai is weird because even though he has death vibes, he isn't exactly coming after Jack. Just apparently following and waiting for him. Also, it's strange that they specifically pick his color to be green as that can be both a color of sickness or decay, but also natural or regenerative tones as well as even happiness. It could be the warrior Jack thinks he needs to be just waiting for him to find that sword and take up the fight once again. Whenever he shows up, its implying at a duty Jack is not living to. Whether its in pure hallucination as when those children where begging Jack to save them and he was standing on a hill looking down on Jack or he followed him through the woods when Jack knew the daughters were coming for him. He seems more to be the Warrior that needs to smite Aku and save the world from his evil, but has yet to do so.
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Mar 27, 2017 01:59
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Escobarbarian posted:I love that although the story *is* simple it's also expressing SO drat MUCH just through the visuals and pacing. This is 100% visual storytelling at its finest. it's always been what samurai jack was best at, and im glad friggin 15 years hasn't dulled it any
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Mar 27, 2017 02:21
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The antlered samurai represents his fear of what he might become. It's Jack minus the mission and humanity.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:22
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Oh and I know their physiques are supposed to be stylized but i cant help but think that Jack was being a hunted by a pack of Dexter's Moms. Honestly the hunched over fist clenched walk they all were doing was a bit silly looking. Also I feel like tracking down someone as wide ranging as Jack would demand some wilderness training that precludes not being able to identify things like deer, but I guess they got lucky.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:23
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Tunicate posted:I think jack will go back in time and defeats aku, though not neccesarily in that order. I'm hoping that killing Aku in the past will cause the Aku in the future to blow up on the spot, just so that everyone can get their happy ending without people complaining about time travel casualty I don't care if it doesn't make sense.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:33
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My thoughts are that Jack will train Ashi to be his successor, so that he can go back to the past without having to worry about the state of the future.
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Mar 27, 2017 02:38
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Reflecting on the latest episode, what's interesting about the Daughters of Aku is that although they're the first human enemies Jack has killed, in a way they're actually less human than many of the foes Jack's vanquished over the years. Just look at Scaramouch from the first episode-even though he's a robot, he expresses a ton of emotion throughout their fight and even shows a bit of fear when he's about to be cut down. The closest the Daughters come to emoting, by contrast, is when they're confused by the deer and when Ashi starts ranting at Jack at the end. They show no fear, no empathy, and are as single-mindedly devoted to their goal as the beetle droids. In a way, they're simply another of Aku's automatons-merely ones made of flesh and blood as opposed to steel and oil.
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Caidin posted:Also I feel like tracking down someone as wide ranging as Jack would demand some wilderness training that precludes not being able to identify things like deer, but I guess they got lucky. Yeah; I take it they just weren't taught ANYTHING other than how to kill. The only reason they found was because they followed the river he fell in, found some big bright splotches of SAMURAI BLOOD™ scattered about...and then just wandered around until Jack found them. And even then, they took so long doing it that Jack's wound had completely healed. Needless to say, they...were not quite prepared for Jack.
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Fionordequester posted:Yeah; I take it they just weren't taught ANYTHING other than how to kill. The only reason they found was because they followed the river he fell in, found some big bright splotches of SAMURAI BLOOD™ scattered about...and then just wandered around until Jack found them. And even then, they took so long doing it that Jack's wound had completely healed. Needless to say, they...were not quite prepared for Jack. Well. When they got the drop on him, they completely loving wrecked him in a stand-up fight. The problem was they A) didn't finish the job, B) gave him enough time to heal (physically and mentally), and C) were dumb enough to fight him on his turf where he could use the environment to his advantage. It makes sense—raw potential of youth but also brashness. And it was loving brutal when he started the fight by spearing one of them.  I think Jack's slowly piecing back together who he used to be. I mean, firing a warning shot against people trying to murder you is about the best you can do.I hope Ashi makes it out okay.  She's clearly different than the rest of the daughters, but this show so far has been really good at subverting expectations.
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ashi is listed in the voices section of the credits(along with jack and aku) and not in additional voices(where the frog, the bandits, and the other sisters are in), so i'm sure she's fine.
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Mar 27, 2017 04:38
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Some of the other daughters were listed in the credits besides Ashi. Avi was one, I've forgotten the other two.
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kefkafloyd posted:Some of the other daughters were listed in the credits besides Ashi. Avi was one, I've forgotten the other two. yes. i mentioned that in the post.
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Roobanguy posted:ashi is listed in the voices section of the credits(along with jack and aku) and not in additional voices(where the frog, the bandits, and the other sisters are in), so i'm sure she's fine. I hope so. I want to see her make the hero's journey, she seems like a good kid. Ish.
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Mar 27, 2017 05:08
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Siamang posted:The antlered samurai represents his fear of what he might become. It's Jack minus the mission and humanity. My guess is that the only way to really defeat Aku is for jack to use the sword to absorb him Diablo one style. Jack sr. defeats Aku with the same sword but only sealed him. Jack didn't "lose" his sword, he walked away for fear he couldn't shoulder the burden. I'm really hoping jack dies and Aki is his successor doesn't pan out. I'd like jack to defeat Aku present or past and walk off into the sunset. Hopefully all of the grim dark is just to hammer home a redemption arc like in the Aku infection.
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Mar 27, 2017 05:10
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Chokes McGee posted:I hope so. I want to see her make the hero's journey, she seems like a good kid. Nah, I'd call her good...as good as a person can be when raised to be a violent child-soldier all their life, at any rate
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kefkafloyd posted:Some of the other daughters were listed in the credits besides Ashi. Avi was one, I've forgotten the other two. Looking back at it now, Ashi and Avi were Tara Strong, Ami and Aki were Kari Wahlgren. Phil LaMarr is also listed as the frog. NewMars posted:My thoughts are that Jack will train Ashi to be his successor, so that he can go back to the past without having to worry about the state of the future. This is my thought, too.
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Chairman Capone posted:Phil LaMarr is also listed as the frog. If I were an actor I'd like this on my resume. Alternatively, I'd demand billing as "AND STARRING PHIL LAMARR AS: THE FROG"
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Mar 27, 2017 05:13
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You people gotta stop killing Jack in your predictions. Jack will be fine. He's gonna go back to the past.
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Mar 27, 2017 05:26
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Hypocrisy posted:You people gotta stop killing Jack in your predictions. Jack will be fine. He's gonna go back to the past. I mean, heck, they didn't even kill off the wolf! This show may be a bit darker and grittier, but not nearly as much as other reboots. I've a feeling Jack'll be fine.
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Mar 27, 2017 05:31
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Did anyone feel this episode kiiiiiinda pushed the limits of Jack's own abilities? Takes a knife to the gut, bleeds while going down a river for who knows how long, takes the knife out, waits a while before doing a hasty, primitive stitch job, and then fought six well-trained ladies in the snow in his underwear. It does imply that time had passed since then with his wound having healed, but...it didn't seem like the assassins took long to find him? I'll to watch it again, the snow was probably meant to imply that months had passed.
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Mar 27, 2017 05:37
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Something to note in episode two, Jack looks out of a crack (when hiding from the woman warriors) sees the shadowy horse figure through the crack, and then run towards the figure. I might be reaching a bit here but I don't think Jack is afraid of the shadowy figure. I really like the way the shadowy figure is presented, you can't get a clear grasp on whether it's a good omen or bad one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uasQRYJnL6Y&t=80s
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Pants Donkey posted:It does imply that time had passed since then with his wound having healed, but...it didn't seem like the assassins took long to find him? I'll to watch it again, the snow was probably meant to imply that months had passed. Well, it's like I said  ...quote:Yeah; I take it they just weren't taught ANYTHING other than how to kill. The only reason they found was because they followed the river he fell in, found some big bright splotches of SAMURAI BLOOD™ scattered about...and then just wandered around until Jack found them. And even then, they took so long doing it that Jack's wound had completely healed. Needless to say, they...were not quite prepared for Jack. Like, yeah, they almost killed Jack when they caught him in a surprise attack. They can fight real good, and have at least rudimentary knowledge of assassinations and stealth...but that's it. They're like the equivalent of that World of Warcraft player who specced ALL their points into one skill tree; they do ONE thing really well, but just can't accomplish anything without the other missing pieces. Fionordequester fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Pants Donkey posted:Did anyone feel this episode kiiiiiinda pushed the limits of Jack's own abilities? Takes a knife to the gut, bleeds while going down a river for who knows how long, takes the knife out, waits a while before doing a hasty, primitive stitch job, and then fought six well-trained ladies in the snow in his underwear. I'd guess they had to take the slow and steady route to thoroughly scan the entire course of the river for him (or better yet for them, his corpse), since they had no loving idea where he might've washed up at. I don't know if it'd take months, but it might not be a stretch for it to have been something like a week or two?  I mean, the wound looked like it was still pretty raw when they finally caught up with him.
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Chokes McGee posted:I hope so. I want to see her make the hero's journey, she seems like a good kid. Just before her rehabilitation is complete, the wolf will pop out and kill her. 
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Mar 27, 2017 06:10
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It looked like the main thing keeping the Daughters from catching up was clearing away all the debris that had trapped them inside the crypt. They aren't exactly equipped for heavy construction work, so I can see how that might take them a few weeks.
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Mar 27, 2017 06:18
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Ehh, I mean, I could see it taking them something like a day or two to sift through the rubble to find their dead sister, since Jack (seemingly) only blew up that passageway, not the entire drat mountainside.
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Nude posted:Something to note in episode two, Jack looks out of a crack (when hiding from the woman warriors) sees the shadowy horse figure through the crack, and then run towards the figure. I might be reaching a bit here but I don't think Jack is afraid of the shadowy figure. I really like the way the shadowy figure is presented, you can't get a clear grasp on whether it's a good omen or bad one. He's heading for the temple beyond the Horseman. It appears in the duration of the shot, above him in the mist.
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