|
Seconding hero's war, ra, mother of learning, and practical guide.
|
#
?
Feb 13, 2017 00:11
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
Piell posted:Super Powereds and Citadel are probably the best superhero web novels aside from worm. If you're interested in a more fantasy bent, The Gods Are Bastards and A Practical Guide to Evil are both pretty good. I binge read Citadel which ended up being surprisingly good - but then it suddenly stopped, several months ago, without even any comments this year. Any idea if the author is just erratic or did he pull a vanishing act? Wolpertinger fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Feb 17, 2017 |
|
#
?
Feb 17, 2017 18:07
|
|
|
Does anyone know what Unsong is? It's number 2 on topwebfic behind Twig but no synopsis or about page so I dunno what it's about.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2017 06:57
|
|
|
Unsong is an alternate history about the universe breaking when NASA tries to go to the moon. Lots and lots of interesting extrapolations of Jewish mythology, trolling by Satan, the Archangel Uriel having no idea how to interact with humans and failing at it in hilarious fashion, and Richard goddamn Nixon. The names of God gain power when spoken and capitalism does its best to discover them all in as financially efficient a method as possible. A little girl teaches an archangel how to tell knock knock jokes. It's a good time. It's very strange, but parts of it are goddamn brilliant and the out-of-nowhere punchlines that you realize the entire chapter has been building up to are loving hilarious. It has a similar structure and feel to Douglas Adams' books, if you've read Hitchhiker's Guide or any of the rest. Fajita Queen fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Feb 20, 2017 |
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2017 07:04
|
|
|
Unsong is amazing and if you have the slightest interest in the Western magical tradition or in Kabbala then there are a LOT of entertaining subtle references.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2017 20:22
|
|
|
I love unsong. I like but not loved the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy but it is like he took all the best elements of Douglas Adams' writing and mixed it with traditional old testament mythology.
|
|
#
?
Feb 20, 2017 21:47
|
|
|
Unsong is great. The dialogue can be insanely cringey at times but the worldbuilding is excellent and it's about 85% worldbuilding which is good.
|
|
#
?
Feb 27, 2017 19:04
|
|
|
DarkCrawler posted:Unsong is great. The dialogue can be insanely cringey at times but the worldbuilding is excellent and it's about 85% worldbuilding which is good. That's the weird thing. 85% worldbuilding certainly means the world is well developed and very interesting, but it means the plot progresses at a snail's pace, and no individual character gets that much development. It kinda feels more like a collection of microstories; some of which feed into a vague central plot.
|
|
#
?
Feb 28, 2017 02:48
|
|
|
Vateke posted:That's the weird thing. 85% worldbuilding certainly means the world is well developed and very interesting, but it means the plot progresses at a snail's pace, and no individual character gets that much development. It kinda feels more like a collection of microstories; some of which feed into a vague central plot. Yes. But the worldbuilding is so much fun that's ok.
|
|
#
?
Feb 28, 2017 10:45
|
|
|
I'm reading through Worm again, and while I still find it to be an exceptional bit of writing in the superhero genre (a genre which is more stagnant and derivative than not these days), I'm reminded that the dialog is, well, bad in the early parts. Characters tend to be long-winded in situations that would be better served by shorter bursts of words; in the scene where Taylor gets in a fight with Sophia, after Taylor gets decked in the ear hard enough to draw blood, she says something along the lines of, "What perverted ideology drives you to such acts of depravity?!" Even the fedora-wearing nerds I've known in my life would truncate that to a nice and concise, "What the gently caress is your problem, you psycho?!" after they got their head lacerated. Also, the swearing is laid on thick in the first third of the story, especially with Armsmaster, and some of the insults bandied about are cringe-inducing. I'm wondering if wildbow will get to that stuff when he somehow pulls off the miracle of editing the entire damned thing, because it could at least use a few rewrites in the beginning and (of course) the time skip.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 4, 2017 07:23
|
|
|
SunAndSpring posted:Also, the swearing is laid on thick in the first third of the story, especially with Armsmaster, and some of the insults bandied about are cringe-inducing. I'm wondering if wildbow will get to that stuff when he somehow pulls off the miracle of editing the entire damned thing, because it could at least use a few rewrites in the beginning and (of course) the time skip.
|
|
#
?
Mar 4, 2017 12:34
|
|
|
It doesn't sound like there have been any dates announced or schedules set, but what kind of expectation should I have for when Worm 2 might be up? Also, what format is the original Worm being edited for? Is he doing it as a series of novels? A TV series? Or just a more consistent & coherent web serial? Sorry if this stuff has been addressed recently, I kind of fell behind with the thread after Worm finished up finally and didn't see any answers in the last couple of pages.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 06:01
|
|
|
Inspector 34 posted:It doesn't sound like there have been any dates announced or schedules set, but what kind of expectation should I have for when Worm 2 might be up? Inspector 34 posted:Also, what format is the original Worm being edited for? Is he doing it as a series of novels? A TV series? Or just a more consistent & coherent web serial? Sorry if this stuff has been addressed recently, I kind of fell behind with the thread after Worm finished up finally and didn't see any answers in the last couple of pages.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 06:32
|
|
|
What is the point of editing it then? Seems like he has plenty of other projects to occupy his time. Not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm just curious.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 07:41
|
|
|
Pretty sure it is for a series of novels and he wants to be a 'real' published author.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 08:00
|
|
|
Inspector 34 posted:What is the point of editing it then? Seems like he has plenty of other projects to occupy his time. Not trying to be a dick or anything, I'm just curious. An updated, edited novelization that isn't out there, which the serial proved there is a fanbase for? More palatable. He might end up self-publishing anyways, though.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 08:55
|
|
Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:No firm date. Almost certainly after Twig concludes, probably not too long after. You really don't think editing a gargantuan web serial like Worm down to a series of novels isn't an adaptation? John Dies at the End is one of the few works I can remember going from Net to print and achieving some degree of success in the process. But the hardcover version of JDaTE gets pretty different to the original at points, and isn't necessarily better for it, either. And JDaTE was much simpler than Worm and involved far less words. There's a fairly big list of things WB would need to look at when editing Worm for novel publication.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 08:55
|
|
|
Going to web serial to print is fairly common in non-english markets.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 10:49
|
|
|
Milky Moor posted:You really don't think editing a gargantuan web serial like Worm down to a series of novels isn't an adaptation? Btw if you aren't a jerk, you can usually pick a lot of this up in the parahumans IRC server.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 11:07
|
|
|
Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:No publisher wants to buy the rights to a work whose contents are entirely out there, and what publisher would pick up Worm 2 if they couldn't also publish Worm 1? He has multiple offers for Worm, apparently. What you said might have been true, I dunno, a decade ago, but it's a bit silly in 2017. But he'd probably get more money self-publishing, anyway, since he already has an audience. Megazver fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Mar 8, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 11:09
|
|
|
Megazver posted:He has multiple offers for Worm, apparently. All preliminary, though. And as far as I know the two media projects are stalled for the time being. Megazver posted:What you said might have been true, I dunno, a decade ago, but it's a bit silly in 2017. But he'd probably get more money self-publishing, anyway, since he already has an audience.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 11:31
|
|
Doctor w-rw-rw- posted:Was the implicit "into a wholly different medium like the ones the person I am replying to listed" not clear? My bad. You mean like the- oh "Is he doing it as a series of novels?" ohhh I get that you're some kind of defense unit for Worm but, man, it's really not necessary.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 14:49
|
|
|
Milky Moor posted:John Dies at the End is one of the few works I can remember going from Net to print and achieving some degree of success in the process 
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 16:09
|
|
|
Milky Moor posted:I get that you're some kind of defense unit for Worm but, man, it's really not necessary. Like, I'm not a spokesman, and I don't speak for Wildbow in any capacity, but I'm not some random idiot.
|
|
#
?
Mar 8, 2017 17:46
|
|
|
Why is he self-editing, anyways? I'd have just done a Kickstarter and hired a good one.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 01:05
|
|
SunAndSpring posted:Why is he self-editing, anyways? I'd have just done a Kickstarter and hired a good one. He tried sourcing from Reddit.
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 01:08
|
|
Milky Moor posted:He tried sourcing from Reddit. Wow, no wonder that failed. Why not negotiate with a bigger publishing company directly?
|
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 01:26
|
|
|
SunAndSpring posted:Wow, no wonder that failed. Why not negotiate with a bigger publishing company directly? Web serials aren't mainstream enough yet (though they're getting more mainstream) for publishers to not lowball offers, so he'd be losing a big part of an already shrunken pie.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 05:14
|
|
|
Also he has a chip on his shoulder about traditional publishing and won't accept reasonable offers.
|
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 10:53
|
|
|
I'm not sure about that, but at this point I'm sifting my logs and interpreting them so I ought to stop.
Doctor w-rw-rw- fucked around with this message at 11:10 on Mar 9, 2017 |
|
#
?
Mar 9, 2017 11:07
|
|
|
I don't suppose anyone has any epubs of the first few volumes of Gods are Bastards? Reading all that off a PC is a bit too much for me and the best solution I could find for making them on my own to read on my ereader basically only lets me do an epub of Book 7+, which is not terribly convenient.
|
|
#
?
Mar 21, 2017 20:07
|
|
|
It's not exactly efficient, but you can copy the text of a chapter into a text editor, save it as a .doc file, and use a free epub converter like https://epub-maker.en.softonic.com/ To save on time you can ctrl+A to select all text on the page, shift+click immediately after the end of the chapter to cut off all the comments and such, then paste it and select all the top links to delete. I'm trying it out now and it takes 10-15 seconds per chapter, probably less as you'd get faster at it. It's probably even faster if you just dump it all into one file instead of making a separate one for each chapter like I'm trying.
|
|
#
?
Mar 22, 2017 15:16
|
|
|
I get the impression Worm is good, but what would be the top 10 web serials?
|
|
#
?
Mar 26, 2017 21:12
|
|
|
That's really tough to answer, you can check this site for a list of what's the most popular at the moment (at least amongst that userbase I guess) or over time. Other than just looking at what's topping charts though everyone will have a different top 10 - I doubt I could even name 10 web serials I feel are worth recommending tbh.
|
|
#
?
Mar 27, 2017 05:48
|
|
|
Megazver posted:I don't suppose anyone has any epubs of the first few volumes of Gods are Bastards? Reading all that off a PC is a bit too much for me and the best solution I could find for making them on my own to read on my ereader basically only lets me do an epub of Book 7+, which is not terribly convenient.
|
|
#
?
Mar 27, 2017 07:56
|
|
|
lurksion posted:Were you using http://www.bloxp.com/? It requires some finagling with the advanced configuration (since as you found out, the default of doing things reverse chronological doesn't run you back to the start). Don't remember exactly what you need to do there. Standard mode doesn't grab all the chapters, yeah. I couldn't get the advanced mode to work with the site. The Shortest Path posted:It's not exactly efficient, but you can copy the text of a chapter into a text editor, save it as a .doc file, and use a free epub converter like https://epub-maker.en.softonic.com/ I suppose I might give this a go. Someday, when I can be arsed. oliveoil posted:I get the impression Worm is good, but what would be the top 10 web serials? Megazver posted:The poo poo I see posted most often is: Mother of Learning, Unsong, Practical Guide to Evil, The Gods are Bastards, Zombie Knight, A Hero's War.
|
|
#
?
Mar 27, 2017 11:42
|
|
|
You forgot Ra again
|
|
#
?
Mar 27, 2017 17:34
|
|
|
Megazver posted:The poo poo I see posted most often is: Mother of Learning, Unsong, Practical Guide to Evil, The Gods are Bastards, Zombie Knight, A Hero's War. Of these, are any of them actually completed?
|
|
#
?
Mar 28, 2017 00:07
|
|
|
Ra is
|
|
#
?
Mar 28, 2017 00:19
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 9, 2024 21:07 |
|
|
Yeah, Ra is, though I wish it had ended very differently. I dislike the ending so much that I can now only recommend it begrudgingly, with a big "the ending is weird and I don't like it but the first 3/4s is good" disclaimer in front of it. Transhuman futuretech powering a fictional recreation of real Earth was a cool twist. The author should have kept the Wheel Group as outright villains and not introduced the Real/Virtual divide because that made him write himself into the worst corner, with the only logical option being the incredibly unsatisfying destruction of Earth and the defeat of literally everyone in the story.
|
|
#
?
Mar 28, 2017 02:50
|
|
