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The Muppets On PCP posted:you mean the pmrc, which was founded by al gore's wife? I thought it was a different group, but yea, looks like it was one in the same. So yea, I agree with Zappa. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ISil7IHzxc "You are talking about words, and I don't believe there is any reason for words to be suppressed." ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 21:35 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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The Muppets On PCP posted:the great worker struggle of my butt having dealt with anal fissures and hemorrhoids for 8 days now, that is indeed a great worker struggle.
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would i vote for a clinton again? what difference would it make, they're just gonna gently caress it up all over again with something really stupid, like thinking there's some sort of hereditary clause that automatically gets blood relations on the ballot in all 50 states.
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zegermans posted:having dealt with anal fissures and hemorrhoids for 8 days now, that is indeed a great worker struggle. Sounds like you're getting a taste of your own posting there
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Penisaurus Sex posted:My personal belief is that politics only attracts weirdos with repressed sexual pathology and anxiety over being alone, specifically divorce. Also it takes being self-sufficient already to be able to live well on politician money sans-bribes. And rich people aren't known for their infinite empathy
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FactsAreUseless posted:Like it's such a bafflingly easy thing to fix that it's especially dumb to defend or make excuses for it. All the Dems would have to do is own it. "The Democratic party is made up of individuals, and sometimes individuals aren't sure what our messaging should be when it comes to reconciling the left and the center of the Democratic party. Someone made a bad call, we're working to make better ones." There, done, and you haven't alienated anyone left or center. The issue with this response is that so many democrat insiders have become absorbed by Optics that they are concerned about the Optics of admitting they made a mistake instead of doubling down/ignoring until it goes away. Which then leads to bad Optics ofc but hindsight is 20/20 yaknow
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Neurolimal posted:Also it takes being self-sufficient already to be able to live well on politician money sans-bribes. And rich people aren't known for their infinite empathy Senators make something like ~200k/yr and house reps ~175k/yr If you can't live on that, then perhaps you aren't cut out to represent the citizenry who are able to scrap by on an average of 45k/yr.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm sick of all these Democrats working with Trump "owned leftists, look at this man who is doing something that 95% of his party agrees with" 
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Senators make something like ~200k/yr and house reps ~175k/yr Most politicians aren't congressmen or senators. Gotta start off with unpaid internships and then move in to poorly paid positions first.
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Senators make something like ~200k/yr and house reps ~175k/yr well there's the added expense of needing 2 homes, including in expensive DC market - many reps sleep in their offices to save money. it's not impossible, but for federal politicians that aren't millionaires it can be difficult to juggle until they've been there for awhile. below that level, (state legislators), it gets bad. nebraska, for example, pays only $12,000 per year. new hampshire pays $100 a year. those rates effectively shut out people who aren't independently wealthy, since normal people can't take time off work to pass laws for a few months. Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 00:16 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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although rhode island did elect a waitress as a state representative, and then her job fired her because she said something "anti-male" on facebook
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:Senators make something like ~200k/yr and house reps ~175k/yr they make way more than that when you factor in lobbying benefits
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logikv9 posted:i voted for Kim dotcom I vote Kim Possible
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zegermans posted:having dealt with anal fissures and hemorrhoids for 8 days now, that is indeed a great worker struggle. Ew gross
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logikv9 posted:i voted for Kim dotcom Kim Dotcom should definitely play the Internet on the upcoming American Gods show. To stay on topic, I reject the DLC and all of its foul works. Also, Bernie Would've Won.
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Concerned Citizen, I've legit backed you when people dogpiled and said you were a good poster so you know I'm not trying to be a dick here: What, exactly, would have happened if they didnt photoshop the picture? It's not a democrat official or even a democrat period. It's one of a bunch of signs at a rally. No news channel was gonna go "Mr. Perez, what do you have to say about this unaffiliated man with this advert for another party, at this womens rally separate from the Democratic party?". This is without getting into the fact that the no-no word in question is one that has been steadily gaining popularity and acceptance for a while now, it's not like the poster said "FULL COMMUNISM NOW". That's what is bothering people; if there was an actual argument for doing so then it would just be seen as a lovely move. As-is it looks like, internally, D's are still just as anti-socialism and fiscal leftism as they've always been.
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Penisaurus Sex posted:It is very funny and weirdly poetic that a political party obsessed with technocracy and expertise is chock full of profoundly incompetent idiots who can barely dress themselves. But they got a wardrobe suggestion app! It gives only pantsuits
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Hold on, guys, maybe forums poster Concerned Citizen is engaging in good faith and is merely misunderstood. Bear with me as I extract another blistering take that this time 100% for sure will not be continued concern trolling, unlike every other post made to date.
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Zhulik posted:Hold on, guys, maybe forums poster Concerned Citizen is engaging in good faith and is merely misunderstood. 
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Neurolimal posted:Concerned Citizen, I've legit backed you when people dogpiled and said you were a good poster so you know I'm not trying to be a dick here: typically (not sure about dnc), digital departments produce a lot of graphics/images that often need to go through vetting process before they're posted. in this case, it seems clear that the "capitalism is the disease, socialism is the cure" phrase was deemed as potentially distracting from the overall message, and perhaps giving ammunition to people who want to dismiss the resistance as being the product of radical left-wingers. obviously, the best option the dnc had was to try and find a different photo to work with if they could, but either they couldn't find an alternative with the right qualities to work or they were just lazy and decided to airbrush it instead. if it were a socialist protest, or a trump demonstration, or a concert, they were trying to pass off as some resistance thing, yes i would think that was bad. in this case, i think it wasn't really a big deal since the photo itself gives a lot of prominence to some socialist guy that wasn't true of the actual march, and for the illustrative purposes of the graphic it wasn't really helpful. i guess if i were the socialist dude i'd be pretty annoyed, but beyond that i don't really see much of a problem. in fact, frankly i am surprised they didn't photoshop the 3rd party poster out entirely since it seems a bit counterproductive for a party to advertise another party's literature in their graphics. you asked "what would happen if they didn't photoshop the picture?" probably nothing. but they're trained to be cautious, for better or worse, because saying the wrong things can reflect badly not just on the party but on their candidates. that means they're going to err on the side of caution and remove/crop out things that conflict with their message. Concerned Citizen has issued a correction as of 23:05 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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the suck zone: abuelitalites demsplain literal left erasure
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Concerned Citizen posted:typically (not sure about dnc), digital departments produce a lot of graphics/images that often need to go through vetting process before they're posted. in this case, it seems clear that the "capitalism is the disease, socialism is the cure" phrase was deemed as potentially distracting from the overall message, and perhaps giving ammunition to people who want to dismiss the resistance as being the product of radical left-wingers. obviously, the best option the dnc had was to try and find a different photo to work with if they could, but either they couldn't find an alternative with the right qualities to work or they were just lazy and decided to airbrush it instead. no one cares you dweeb
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anime was right posted:no one cares you dweeb hey no need for namecalling
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Remember all the misleading pics of Hillary campaigning then they'd zoom out and itd be an empty warehouse.
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Considering that photo is actually full of socialist signs even post edit I am not actually sure it wasnt of a socialist protest group on the whole despite your assertions otherwise
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Concerned Citizen posted:alternative: they shouldn't do anything. they should ignore it and move on, because it's a dumb invented controversy "We shouldn't do anything. They should ignore it and move on, because it's a dumb invented controversy" - HRC
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Ace of Baes posted:Remember all the misleading pics of Hillary campaigning then they'd zoom out and itd be an empty warehouse. Even Hillary men didn't seem to have any genuine excitement or belief in her very sad focus group tested message.
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GlyphGryph posted:Considering that photo is actually full of socialist signs even post edit I am not actually sure it wasnt of a socialist protest group on the whole despite your assertions otherwise
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Ace of Baes posted:Remember all the misleading pics of Hillary campaigning then they'd zoom out and itd be an empty warehouse. Yeah but trump made low effort lies about his crowd sized and didnt even bother to make his lies plausible and people believed him, it cheapens all the work we put in
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FactsAreUseless posted:It was actually a mainstream Democratic protest... the Democrats just haven't realized it yet. The actual resistance is a bunch of radical leftwingers that the bad Dems want to take credit for rather than being the other way around.
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GlyphGryph posted:Considering that photo is actually full of socialist signs even post edit I am not actually sure it wasnt of a socialist protest group on the whole despite your assertions otherwise  there's one sign there that's explicitly socialist, one other that uses socialist imagery (by the rich for the rich and a pig(?)), one that touches on some economics stuff, and then a bunch about civil rights, uteruses, and pussies.
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GlyphGryph posted:Considering that photo is actually full of socialist signs even post edit I am not actually sure it wasnt of a socialist protest group on the whole despite your assertions otherwise nein nein nein there are only TWO leftists in the united states and their names are both Bernard and they are brothers. also racist misogynists and they voted for trump
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Also the photoshop thing was 100% straight from corporate buttcovering moves 101 combined with free marketing. There's no empathy for the message as the message is too controversial, but part of the message is good. My only problem is they're co-opting the PSL message while censoring the full intent. Co-opt and dismiss. Dems strategy 2020: Co-opt all 3rd parties and dismiss every one of the third party base voters as extreme. Should've just photoshopped the dude out entirely. Also do they have the copyright for that photo?
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Concerned Citizen posted:you asked "what would happen if they didn't photoshop the picture?" probably nothing. but they're trained to be cautious, for better or worse, because saying the wrong things can reflect badly not just on the party but on their candidates. that means they're going to err on the side of caution and remove/crop out things that conflict with their message. this hypercautiousness and sheer terror of actually attaching themselves to anything of substance is precisely why Hillary is languishing in ignominious defeat in a forest somewhere while Bernie is the most popular American politician of this century voters are very dumb, but they are smart enough to know when they're being sold an oversculpted, sanitized product that's been stripped of all nutritional value. FactsAreUseless posted:It was actually a mainstream Democratic protest... the Democrats just haven't realized it yet.
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There are enough pussy hats in the photo for me to believe its the Womens March and not a socialist event. Dems still worthless though.
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Concerned Citizen posted:well there's the added expense of needing 2 homes, including in expensive DC market - many reps sleep in their offices to save money. it's not impossible, but for federal politicians that aren't millionaires it can be difficult to juggle until they've been there for awhile. Why not stay at a hotel or rent an apartment?
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GodFish posted:There are enough pussy hats in the photo for me to believe its the Womens March and not a socialist event. Dems still worthless though. Socialists - both PSL and DSA - attended the Women's March with signs
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Concerned Citizen posted:typically (not sure about dnc), digital departments produce a lot of graphics/images that often need to go through vetting process before they're posted. in this case, it seems clear that the "capitalism is the disease, socialism is the cure" phrase was deemed as potentially distracting from the overall message, and perhaps giving ammunition to people who want to dismiss the resistance as being the product of radical left-wingers. obviously, the best option the dnc had was to try and find a different photo to work with if they could, but either they couldn't find an alternative with the right qualities to work or they were just lazy and decided to airbrush it instead. Its weird how their "caution" always seems to take the form of actively going out of their way to poo poo on the left while co opting their gains. Weird, that.
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