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tadashi posted:It's not just the team. The University is on notice that it's accreditation is in jeopardy because of the actions of the Kentucky governor. Lmao what
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Democrazy posted:It's a real problem because is has no solution other than Auriemma losing his touch or other teams simply getting better. It shouldn't be a question of facilities, because if it was, other programs should be able to outspend UConn. And if it were recruiting violations, Pat Summitt probably would have found something when she alleged violations in the recruitment of Maya Moore. The answer will be other teams getting better, but that's a slow process. Other teams will only get better if you have more girls playing it in high school, thus expanding the amount of good women's players coming in to college.
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Metapod posted:Lmao what Our fantastic governor has been throwing a hissy fit because he wasn't allowed to replace UofL's board with cronies. And dicking around with funding and other stuff that is also messing with accreditation. Think sorta like UAB and Bama except the target is ruining the school, not the football program. And it's not like he's associated with UK either. Taerkar fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 18:16
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Ha, I guess that would up the ante a little more than a basketball scandal.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:22
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I think there was even a "Shadow Board" thing going on after the initial clash. It's been incredibly stupid and is endangering the entire University and the students there.
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Taerkar posted:Our fantastic governor has been throwing a hissy fit because he wasn't allowed to replace UofL's board with cronies. Incredible
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Mar 27, 2017 18:23
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People's complaint about women's basketball is a major reason why I don't follow the NBA at all. The same 2-3 teams (or players, more specifically) win every year. The lack of competitive balance really hurts it for me. NCAAB though, that's my jam. I'm that weird guy that loves NCAAB but barely follows the NBA.
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Probably Magic posted:I think the tiebreaker for me is that, yeah, UK fans are the worst, but have they ever actively rooted for a team that has Grayson Allen or a Plumlee Brother on it? Like, I can't think of a single Wildcat that's been that punchable. Also, jokes about inevitable sanctions aside, Calipari actually cares a lot about his kids and having a fun style, while Coach K is just a huge prick. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2017/mar/24/kentucky-wildcats-honest-team-college-basketball-ncaa British newspaper calls out K on his bullshit. Cal has said many times he hates the one-and-done rule, but at least he isn't hypocritical about using it to his advantage. Obviously I'm biased and like to see our fans in a good light, though there are some crazy ones, but I always figured we weren't that different from Kansas or North Carolina fans. Big state schools that dominate their states in terms of fandom, with men's basketball being the primary sport in football dominated lands. Certainly not worse than Duke fans. I think the rural fans do have a tendency to see the city of Louisville in a negative light, but in reality nearly half the city is UK fans. I think it's just more a big city vs rural thing. Again though, there's bias with me being from there, where the two fan bases have to live and work with each other, which maybe tones it down for us. Hell, some of my best friends are Louisville fans. Fans from out in the state don't have that dynamic I guess so there's nothing to stop the hate. I think there's a lot of schadenfreude with the whole stripper scandal though. All Louisville fans would talk about when UK hired Cal is how any banners he gets will eventually come down, and now their banner is in serious jeopardy. And I won't deny the Pitino hate. I don't blame him for taking the job, it was the best available when he was looking, of course he's going to jump on that. But I have an uncle who refers to him as "that loving traitor," so, yeah, there's Pitino hate.
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Kirios posted:I'm that weird guy that loves NCAAB but barely follows the NBA. There are like six million people in Indiana.
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Kirios posted:People's complaint about women's basketball is a major reason why I don't follow the NBA at all. The same 2-3 teams (or players, more specifically) win every year. The lack of competitive balance really hurts it for me. There is way more variance in the NBA than in women's college ball. Which says a LOT.
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NCAAB though, that's my jam
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wicka posted:There are like six million people in Indiana. I imagine Kentucky and Kansas also have a very skewed amount of NCAA fans, but not NBA fans.
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SamuraiFoochs posted:There is way more variance in the NBA than in women's college ball. Which says a LOT. Yeah unless you want to go back to old school UCLA or the Bill Russell Celtics there's not really any comparison. I mean unless you're a fan of the team you hate Alabama football, but they're nowhere near UConn's run since 2002. Which would probably be even better if it wasn't for the other best coach in women's basketball history being at Tennessee for a good chunk of that time.
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I mean the NCAA is still mostly the same programs at or near the top every year. To the extent it has parity it's because they decide the title with a single elimination tournament. If it went to an NBA like playoff it'd probably be some combination of Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/UNC/MSU year after year. Basketball is inheriently a hard sport to have parity in. The best players have too significant of an impact and there are too many scoring opportunities.
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MourningView posted:I mean the NCAA is still mostly the same programs at or near the top every year. To the extent it has parity it's because they decide the title with a single elimination tournament. If it went to an NBA like playoff it'd probably be some combination of Duke/Kentucky/Kansas/UNC/MSU year after year. Basketball is inheriently a hard sport to have parity in. The best players have too significant of an impact and there are too many scoring opportunities. Agreed, I'm just saying UConn women's basketball is next level poo poo.
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I'm inclined to agree that it makes it kinda boring but I also don't really see a way to fix it unless you want to ban him from the sport for being to good at his job. It's not like they're doing something wrong, they're just way better. I guess appreciate that you're watching history? Presumably it will end eventually just like UCLA basketball in the Wooden era
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MourningView posted:I'm inclined to agree that it makes it kinda boring but I also don't really see a way to fix it unless you want to ban him from the sport for being to good at his job. It's not like they're doing something wrong, they're just way better. I guess appreciate that you're watching history? Presumably it will end eventually just like UCLA basketball in the Wooden era I basically only pay attention until the elite eight. Usually you get one or two teams that surprise their way up to there, then it becomes the UConn plus combo of 1/2 seeds that will loss to the Huskies anyways.
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Kirios posted:People's complaint about women's basketball is a major reason why I don't follow the NBA at all. The same 2-3 teams (or players, more specifically) win every year. The lack of competitive balance really hurts it for me. The NBA has been pretty good with having different champions in recent history. I'm guessing your bored with LeBron getting to the Finals every year since 2011, but what he is doing is historically great. (and it's not like he wins every time anyway but point taken.) Too lazy to check but I think the last time the NBA had so many different teams win titles in a similar timeframe was the 70s. It's a bit different than the women's college game where a team can go undefeated for multiple years in a row. NBA titles since 2010 2010: LA Lakers 2011: Dallas Mavericks 2012: Miami Heat 2013: Miami Heat 2014: San Antonio Spurs 2015: Golden State Warriors 2016: Cleveland Cavaliers
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I admittedly don't watch it at all but even beyond UConn, women's basketball seems pretty shallow and it seems like they should consider making the tournament field smaller. The first few rounds can get really ugly a lot of the time.
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MourningView posted:I'm inclined to agree that it makes it kinda boring but I also don't really see a way to fix it unless you want to ban him from the sport for being to good at his job. It's not like they're doing something wrong, they're just way better. I guess appreciate that you're watching history? Presumably it will end eventually just like UCLA basketball in the Wooden era Oh I'm not at all saying it's wrong. I'm just saying it makes me completely disinterested in the sport.
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The women have had a 16 seed win before, haven't they? It does seem like most of those games are like 95-31 though.
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Spacebump posted:The NBA has been pretty good with having different champions in recent history. I'm guessing your bored with LeBron getting to the Finals every year since 2011, but what he is doing is historically great. (and it's not like he wins every time anyway but point taken.) Too lazy to check but I think the last time the NBA had so many different teams win titles in a similar timeframe was the 70s. It's a bit different than the women's college game where a team can go undefeated for multiple years in a row. western conference titles since 1999: Lakers 7 Spurs 6 Every other team 4
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MourningView posted:I admittedly don't watch it at all but even beyond UConn, women's basketball seems pretty shallow and it seems like they should consider making the tournament field smaller. The first few rounds can get really ugly a lot of the time. Yeah I don't watch it at all either but I'd imagine the sport needs to mature if that makes sense? UConn's on a separate level but even past them it seems like there are always the same 3 or 4 teams that could theoretically give them trouble. It kinda reminds me of women's international hockey, like 98% of the talent is is playing for two teams and everyone else is cannon fodder. Women's basketball needs some bag men and dirty recruiting to spread the talent out. e: And Democrazy did say it was getting better past UConn recently and it isn't like I know enough to call him wrong, so maybe that's the start. Grittybeard fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Nolan Arenado posted:The women have had a 16 seed win before, haven't they? It does seem like most of those games are like 95-31 though. They did but iirc the best player on the one seed got hurt right before the tournament
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I can't remember the last time I saw a non-UConn NCAA women's tournament game in an arena that wasn't 75% empty.
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Is NCAA women's basketball any less dominated by slow paced coach-dominated offense than the men's game?
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Panzeh posted:Is NCAA women's basketball any less dominated by slow paced coach-dominated offense than the men's game? They had the 30 second shot clock since 1970. The men didn't get a shot clock at all until 1985, and then it was 45 seconds. I mean it still might not be as fast as you'd like, but they've been ahead of the curve as far as forcing teams to at least attempt shots.
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Do they have a shorter short clock refresh after an offensive rebound on a shot that hit the rim, or is that only the WNBA?
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Spacebump posted:The NBA has been pretty good with having different champions in recent history. I'm guessing your bored with LeBron getting to the Finals every year since 2011, but what he is doing is historically great. (and it's not like he wins every time anyway but point taken.) Too lazy to check but I think the last time the NBA had so many different teams win titles in a similar timeframe was the 70s. It's a bit different than the women's college game where a team can go undefeated for multiple years in a row. The issue isn't really who wins in the NBA. But the race for the finals is between the same teams every year. For example, out of those years you posted, how many was Lebron in?
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TBeats posted:The issue isn't really who wins in the NBA. But the race for the finals is between the same teams every year. For example, out of those years you posted, how many was Lebron in? All but 2010 lol
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Grittybeard posted:They had the 30 second shot clock since 1970. The men didn't get a shot clock at all until 1985, and then it was 45 seconds. Yikes
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The NBA has teams that can realistically challenge the ones everyone expects to win, even if they don't always succeed. UCONN has won over 100 games in a row. It's not comparable. And Lebron always going to the finals is due to the nature of basketball itself more than the NBA.
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Taerkar posted:Our fantastic governor has been throwing a hissy fit because he wasn't allowed to replace UofL's board with cronies. lol I still cannot believe y'all somehow got crazy rear end bevin as governor this sort of poo poo is why I moved to new york
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TBeats posted:The issue isn't really who wins in the NBA. But the race for the finals is between the same teams every year. For example, out of those years you posted, how many was Lebron in? If the NBA season ended with a single elimination tournament every year it would have a larger variety of champions. I imagine if the NCAA season ended with the best teams playing a bunch of 7 games series instead of single elimination, there would be less parity.
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Spacebump posted:If the NBA season ended with a single elimination tournament every year it would have a larger variety of champions. I imagine if the NCAA season ended with the best teams playing a bunch of 7 games series instead of single elimination, there would be less parity. Absolutely. Single elimination isn't really fair for deciding who is the best, but it's the only alternative. The NCAA isn't a 30 team league. There are over 300 D1 schools that play basketball. Also the tournament is unique and exciting. The only changes they need to make are fixing the seeding system. Wichita State was ranked in the top 25 for the last month of the regular season but was a 10 seed?
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Pretty good year to be a Gamecock. Pretty good win, considering how long their best player sat on the bench.
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I didn't even realize that South Carolina was also in the women's final four, that's cool. I know making the mens and womens final four has been done before, probably UConn several times, but it must be somewhat rare.
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You guys are really going to like UK fans after this: http://kentuckysportsradio.com/basketball-2/call-john-higgins-business-and-you-get-the-fbi/ This is absurd but he definitely shouldn't be allowed to call any more UK games. E: It's probably not the actual FBI but he's getting harassed online as well, with UK fans posting fake awful reviews of his roofing company on their Facebook page. tadashi fucked around with this message at 17:51 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Good god, 5 players are transferring from UNM overnight. Three others might, but those aren't confirmed. With 2 players graduating, that's up to 10 players leaving. 
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tadashi posted:You guys are really going to like UK fans after this: lmao "go cayuts" indeed
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