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for roughly the cost of the f-35 program we could have built 4 - 500 AP1000* reactors, which is enough capacity to turn off every single coal plant in america. we don't have a tech problem, we have a "how do you get large groups of humans to make good decisions" problem * assuming 3 - 4 billion each, the running cost of the latest ones being built now. presumably building hundreds of them at once could be done a little better.
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Yeah, except the AP1000 is a garbage design which is mired in flaws, bankrupted Westinghouse, and almost took down fuckin' Toshiba. It's incredibly unsafe, laughably so given the absolutely ludicrous cost to build one. We could build novel reactors not based on the need to breed nuclear weapons fuel, *cough* Molten Salt *cough*, but that doesn't jive with the US military industrial complex. Rime fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Quibbling about the specific reactor aside, the USA could build enough reactors to completely displace fossil fuel electricity. It is feasible.
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yea the point was to use real world price examples not to get into a sperg off over nuke plant design (again, for like the 20th time this thread)
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That's some fine cognitive dissonance, sure.
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Don't worry folks, things are looking up - as long as you ignore the ah... historical data anyway...
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icantfindaname posted:You can put it on floating barges at the north pole to replace all the melted sea ice
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vermin posted:I guess I'm just hopin we discover how to pull energy out of the universe's rear end in the next few decades We've already discovered this one. Bad but powerfully rich people would rather have short term gain at the expense of the world, though  Like if releasing the stored energy in atoms isn't pulling energy out of the universe's rear end, I don't know what is
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enraged_camel posted:Yeah, good luck finding all that paint and then convincing everyone on the planet that they should paint everything white with it. Just tell them we're going to roleplay the Roman Empire, who, as we know thanks to Hollywood, had everything in white: white toga's, white statues, white buildings, white roads.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:You'd get more bang for your buck placing them on the Equator. isnt there some kind of paint we can just dump into the ocean that floats instead of wasting time with boats a white ocean would be pretty cool, or at least cooler than the blue ocean
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Rime posted:Yeah, except the AP1000 is a garbage design which is mired in flaws, bankrupted Westinghouse, and almost took down fuckin' Toshiba. It's incredibly unsafe, laughably so given the absolutely ludicrous cost to build one. NewForumSoftware posted:isnt there some kind of paint we can just dump into the ocean that floats instead of wasting time with boats
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Ravenfood posted:Yeah, I really really don't want to find out what that'd do to algae production. What if...we genetically engineer algae...to be white instead of green...and then we
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Do rising sea levels help dilute acidification at all? Maybe we want this, goons
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NewForumSoftware posted:isnt there some kind of paint we can just dump into the ocean that floats instead of wasting time with boats Aren't there creatures that rely on photosynthesis down to like at least 100 meters? Reflecting all the sunlight off the surface of the ocean seems like it could be, uh, problematic for ecosystems.
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Paradoxish posted:Aren't there creatures that rely on photosynthesis down to like at least 100 meters? Reflecting all the sunlight off the surface of the ocean seems like it could be, uh, problematic for ecosystems. well if the oceans are going to die anyways we might as well have it occur with more balmy land temperatures
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Rime posted:Yeah, except the AP1000 is a garbage design which is mired in flaws, bankrupted Westinghouse, and almost took down fuckin' Toshiba. It's incredibly unsafe, laughably so given the absolutely ludicrous cost to build one. Hell you could build
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Accretionist posted:Do rising sea levels help dilute acidification at all? Maybe we want this, goons Not really, it's a partial pressure problem rather than a quantity problem. If you treat "atmospheric CO2", "sea level" and "water CO2" in the aggregate it won't matter much.
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If anyone wants to be further depressed, here is a link to today's executive order gutting anything to do with climate change: https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/03/28/presidential-executive-order-promoting-energy-independence-and-economi-1
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Number_6 posted:If anyone wants to be further depressed, here is a link to today's executive order gutting anything to do with climate change: nah that should make people angry
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I don't get angry. I just get sad.
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AceOfFlames posted:I don't get angry. I just get sad. Get loving pissed you jackass. Let the hatred flow.
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Al Gore 2 - "I Was Right Motherfuckers" Boogaloo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huX1bmfdkyA
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Rime posted:Al Gore 2 - "I Was Right Motherfuckers" Boogaloo: The comments on this one.... now that's depressing!
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frytechnician posted:The comments on this one.... now that's depressing! Humanity deserves extinction. edit: sorry I thought this was the Trump! thread, my bad!
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Salt Fish posted:Humanity deserves extinction. I don't think anyone can tell these threads apart anymore.
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Yeah death comes for us all but especially over the next thousand years.
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Ha yes at last, now I can finally get back to being a barista. Researching climate change for a government agency was boring anyway! (It really was.)
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Out of curiosity... how do you feel about this now?Fasdar posted:May 4, 2016
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I mean, that is an impact of climate change.
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Evil_Greven posted:Out of curiosity... how do you feel about this now? Still pretty confident that the wealthy and ultra-privileged will kill us all in a panicky poo poo fit, if that's what you're asking? The rise of reactionary rightwing groups would've been a risk factor even in an egalitarian, largely equal society with strong institutions. We're in a grossly unequal society whose institutions and capacity for accurately depicting the reality of our world are both being systematically dismantled. This poo poo is like the scene in rag-tag sports movies where the good guys' gear is sabotaged before the big game. The Trump situation is interesting, however, in that it has galvanized the left and the scientific subset of society in a way that is moderately hopeful. However, we haven't really even begun to see the major refugee crisis we'll be dealing with by 2040ish. If Trump, Le Pen, Brexit, and all the other dumb poo poo serves as some sort of inoculation against rightwing apocalypticism, then great! But the mechanical push and pull of societies being brought to their limits will happen whether we're monstrous about it or not. Fasdar fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Mar 30, 2017 |
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So I know clathrate gun shenanigans and the proceeding funyuns will be the demise of pretty much everything, but I just saw that Guy McPherson video of him saying we could possibly only have 10 years left o___0 Can things really spiral out of control that quickly? I was hoping I had another 30 at the least, ffs man lol
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bef posted:So I know clathrate gun shenanigans and the proceeding funyuns will be the demise of pretty much everything, but I just saw that Guy McPherson video of him saying we could possibly only have 10 years left o___0 We know that in the past, the earth has warmed by as much as 5 degrees over 30-40 years. So it is possible for things to get very bad very quick but, uncertainties are very large.
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bef posted:So I know clathrate gun shenanigans and the proceeding funyuns will be the demise of pretty much everything, but I just saw that Guy McPherson video of him saying we could possibly only have 10 years left o___0 There are a lot of things that could theoretically speed things up but they're all in the extremely unlikely category.
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bef posted:So I know clathrate gun shenanigans and the proceeding funyuns will be the demise of pretty much everything, but I just saw that Guy McPherson video of him saying we could possibly only have 10 years left o___0 Let's hope so! 
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MiddleOne posted:There are a lot of things that could theoretically speed things up but they're all in the extremely unlikely category. So was Trump.
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Are there any viable co2 sequestration technologies other than for use in enhanced oil recovery?
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GE just came out and said they are sticking to the emissions standards established under Obama. For what it's worth....
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Fasdar, That was what I was talking about, indeed. Thank you for your feedback. bef posted:So I know clathrate gun shenanigans and the proceeding funyuns will be the demise of pretty much everything, but I just saw that Guy McPherson video of him saying we could possibly only have 10 years left o___0 There was some discussion about this awhile back (and not just that post, keep reading).
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Saint Fu posted:Are there any viable co2 sequestration technologies other than for use in enhanced oil recovery? One can significantly boost carbon biomass production in land based plants seemingly without solar and gas diffusion being a bottleneck. I assume something similar could be done with photosynthesizing algae etc. There are lots of funny ways one can bioengineer organisms if you disregard commercial and evolutionarily beneficial traits and couple it with loose regulation. The biggest drawback on this approach is the speed of deployment/action and the disruption of the ecosystems. Mustached Demon posted:So was Trump. No the polls had them pretty close, the margin it was just magnified by the media narrative. And let's not forget, most did vote for Hillary, in almost the same ratio as the polls predicted. Just not in the states needed for her to win.
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Zudgemud posted:One can significantly boost carbon biomass production in land based plants seemingly without solar and gas diffusion being a bottleneck. I assume something similar could be done with photosynthesizing algae etc. There are lots of funny ways one can bioengineer organisms if you disregard commercial and evolutionarily beneficial traits and couple it with loose regulation.
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