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Honestly, I've been feeling like Teen Titans has been going downhill since Meyers left, and I feel like I'm probably going to drop it after Lazarus Contract. Shame since I had such high hopes for it, and it's basically the only comic with my favorite DC character in it right now.
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I think Wonder Woman started working much better once Cale came into the flashbacks so you get the contrast of how she walked into hell on those good intentions. Until Deimos and Phobos showed up, she'd probably just have made snarky comments at press conferences about Diana. Basically, once that happened, the modern story started to click for me. I'm not 100% sure how I feel about Etta and Cheetah being a thing, it seems a little pat to contrast the misogyny of the Cheetah powers in the first arc with Barbara Ann being with a woman, and I always liked the Steve/Etta thing from the post-Crisis era. Rucka is, however, leaning hard on the villains being victims of circumstance, much like Batman's villains are all victims of their own psyches.
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Ooh. Jamie McKelvie is doing DC variants now. Wild Storm #3.Also, this Cave Carson #5 one is neato. 
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Mar 23, 2017 01:01
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BrianWilly posted:Busy playing Mass Effect, can't effortpost, but this was a really interesting week. Dude you need to spoiler your poo poo if you post on Wednesdays. Some people don't get their pulls on Wednesdays (like me this week).
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Mar 23, 2017 01:12
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 So my friend gave me a poo poo ton of new DC comics as a gift. I've never really read DC though. Where should I start? Edit: Fixed image Hiro Protagonist fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 01:42
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Jesus, that is one generous friend. If you're interested in new stuff, then check out Superman (not Action Comics), it's a real high quality series that gets Superman down perfectly. Out of the older stuff, I'd definitely give Mark Waid's Flash a shot.
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Mar 23, 2017 01:48
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Your image link is broken. Here ya go Yup. Superman is the best thing. Getting to grips with who this Superman and his family are is complicated. If you're not feeling the first issue that tries to explain it, soldier through, cause the actual story is really sweet and fun. Night of the Monster Men is, like, six issues into the Rebirth Batman family issues it's crossing over, so you'll be missing the set-up of a lot of characters. If you accept that, it should be fine as a self contained read. Definitely get to The Flintstones at some point. It's a really neat subversive take. edit: A lot of the Rebirth stuff, especially Titans, concerns it's self with confronting issues of previous DC continuities, which might really confuse you. Basically, in 2011, they rebooted the entire universe (The New 52) so characters were younger or in different relationships (Superman was no longer in a relationship with Lois, ect) and about a year ago, for this 'Rebirth' relaunch, aspects of the previous DC Comics world have started breaking back in. For example, 'The Return of Wally West' is a big deal because in the New 52 they gave that name to a completely different character and pissed all the diehard fans off, so here's the real deal back. If none of these collections include it, you should try and read this Rebirth Special one-shot comic that kicked it off. https://www.comixology.com/DC-Unive...XN1bHRzU2xpZGVy It reveals a hidden force behind the 2011 reboot which is really crazy on a meta, conceptual level. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 02:05
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Hiro Protagonist posted:
The Flash by Mark Waid It's how I got into DC Comics After that read Superman, Action Comics, Wonder Woman, and Zatanna.
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Mar 23, 2017 04:04
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So my friend gave me a poo poo ton of new DC comics as a gift. I've never really read DC though. Where should I start?
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pubic works project posted:I see D_T loves him some big titties. All of the titgirls in the anime titninja game have large tits. Even the underage ones.
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Mar 23, 2017 04:16
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Nuns with Guns posted:. Even the underage ones. Judging from DT's previous avatars we can assume this is how he likes it.
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Mar 23, 2017 04:21
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Thanks for the help and the advice! A quick, weird question: why do you all like DC Comics? I've always avoided it, and Marvel, because I felt it must lack consequences with the constant resurrections, so wouldn't nothing matter if characters never grow or change to keep the status quo? Is my assumption right? What brings you back? Hiro Protagonist fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 04:59
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Mar 23, 2017 05:00
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Hiro Protagonist posted:A quick, weird question: why do you all like DC Comics? I've always avoided it, and Marvel, because I felt it must lack consequences with the constant resurrections, so wouldn't nothing matter if characters never grow or change to keep the status quo? Is my assumption right? What brings you back? Same reason I like Sherlock Holmes stories: I like the concept and I like the characters, and the fact there aren't any long-term arcs or developments doesn't really matter.
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Mar 23, 2017 05:22
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Cause Batman could totally beat up Captain America and Wonder Woman has big boobs.
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Mar 23, 2017 05:45
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Tbh I started reading a couple years ago cuz I was bored and figured what the hell and now I stay I guess for the reason you'd keep watching a show even when the writing starts taking a dive. You're already in it and the interaction between what unfolds good or bad and the emotional reaction to it is as big a part of reading as the book itself Plus there's occasionally a good story (crazy i know) and there's admiring good art when you see it too (this has become a thing for me and books I'll read, I'll sick around for good art if the writing is middling)
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Mar 23, 2017 05:54
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Thanks for the help and the advice! I've been going through Complex's list of the top 25 Batman comics to expand my knowledge of the character. I've read The Dark Knight Returns and The Dark Knight Strikes Again (well over 400 pages combined), Hush, the Court of Owls issues, Batman and the Monster Men, The Black Mirror series, and a good chunk of Batman: Birth of the Demon. I've also read the very first Batman story from 1939 and the first few stories from the Batman run beginning in 1940. What I've done is treated everything as essentially a standalone story. This works especially well since Frank Miller's work and Batman and the Monster Men are standalone stories totally outside the larger universes and the Court of Owls was the beginning of the New 52 reboot so there's no baggage behind it, but I read for the characters and the story rather than the ongoing work. The sheer size of the canon makes it almost impossible to catch up in any reasonable sense of the term without dedicating a good portion of your free time for years to reading comics. So instead, I don't bother trying to catch up. I find what people agree are the best stories to gain an understanding of the characters and go from there. I save my sequential reading for small, limited run comics like the Image stuff.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Cause Batman could totally beat up Captain America and Wonder Woman has big boobs. D_T sock puppet found
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Thanks for the help and the advice! I don't read comics for the consequences, the revolving door of comic book afterlife isn't really a problem for me. I think there are some concessions you have to make to enjoy a superhero story, i.e. death means almost nothing, you can hop back up after being knocked unconscious with no ill effects, people can call themselves things like Doctor Psycho and Captain Boomerang with a straight face, nobody can tell Clark Kent is Superman because he's wearing glasses, etc. Honestly more than anything I like DC because it's kind of childish and fantastical. As a kid I loved Batman, I think most kids do. As I grew up though I leaned hard into Marvel, specifically the X-Men, because as a teenager you don't want to like the same stuff you liked as a kid. I thought DC was for babies because That lead into Spawn and the Image comics of the 90s (I still have a huge problem taking Image seriously now that it's a very well-regarded publisher for a diverse lineup of independent comics, because in my day Image meant poo poo like Youngblood and WildC.A.T.S.). Now that I'm an old bitter fucker with a job and insurance I like comics that help me escape from the bullshit of reality, rather than try to replicate it. This is why I come down so hard on edgelord 'mature' content like Killing Joke. So I've leaned back in to childish concepts like the idea that a friendly man in a primary-colored costume goes around helping everyone because he's just that nice a guy. I like the pageantry and the traditions. I like capes and corny names and when they wear the underpants on the outside (which nobody really does anymore, sadly). It is very much a soap opera, and there's still a lot of DCs output that doesn't do anything for me. But I'm very attached to the characters at this point. And like a soap opera even when it's bad you tend to want to stick around because you know it's probably going to get good again before too long.
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Mar 23, 2017 13:50
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 Farewell Superbro, you were too precious for this world 
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I enjoyed the end of the Superman crossover, but was also tickled by how blasé Superbro and New-Lois were about the whole deal. Oh, we were balls of light and are now standing in the middle of a bugfuck crazy dimension while a gigantic Mister Mxyzptlk is rambling about identity and continuity being hosed with? What's that you say Superman kid? We're your parents? That's absurd, me and Lois are just friends. Ok, see you later.
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Frankly the only thing that bugs me about the Superman thing is that now apparently Superman delivered his kid in the Fortress of Solitude? I liked the ludicrousness of having Lois give birth in Flashpoint Gotham with Dr. Thomas Wayne in a batsuit there. Also if this leads to Clark and Lois going back to having double lives living in Metropolis I will actually be mad because I liked them on a farm in the middle of nowhere. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Mar 23, 2017 |
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Mar 23, 2017 17:52
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TwoPair posted:Also if this leads to Clark and Lois going back to having double lives living in Metropolis I will actually be mad because I liked them on a farm in the middle of nowhere. Well people can say it's about cleaning up continuity all they want, but this here is the real reason this story happened.
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Mar 23, 2017 20:38
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I wonder if they'll ever again acknowledge Jon's adoptive brother Chris or if Clark just decided he doesn't care about that little poo poo anymore.
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Mar 23, 2017 20:49
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Superman loves Chris so much he (thought he) sent Doomsday into the phantom zone to help take care of him.
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X-O posted:Well people can say it's about cleaning up continuity all they want, but this here is the real reason this story happened. I know.
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Bleedingcool is showing off the extra stories in next week's Hanna Barbera crossover specials. I can't find anyone else's preview to link to instead of them. "DC Comics Publisher Dan DiDio Recreates Top Cat As Batman Villainn(sic)" https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/23/dc-comics-publisher-dan-didio-recreates-top-cat-batman-villainn/ "The Jetsons Recreated As Something Closer To Black Mirror, By DC Comics" https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/23/jetsons-recreated-something-closer-black-mirror-dc-comics/ "Watch Snagglepuss Naming Names To The House Committee On Un-American Activities" https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/23/watch-snagglepuss-naming-names-to-the-house-committee-on-un-american-activities/ "Ruff And Ready, Recreated As Nineteen-Fifties Blue Comedians By Howard Chaykin" https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/23/ruff-and-ready-recreated-as-ninteen-fifties-blue-comedians-by-howard-chaykin/ The Ruff and Reddy one is amazing.  
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Mar 23, 2017 22:27
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The announcement of Snyder and Capullo's next Epic will be livestreamed next week http://www.newsarama.com/33713-dc-to-livestream-announcement-of-their-big-summer-event.html
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Thanks for the help and the advice! Characters do grow and change. It's just that it rarely happens as part of a neat package tied to a specific narrative. Rather, the growth and change happens as the same characters are reinterpreted again and again by different writers and artists, in historical contexts and media. It's like oil painting - any one story may only provide a thin, one-dimensional view of a character. But hundreds of stories over decades builds up that definition, and eventually you get a multi-layered, complex masterpiece. (Or sometimes you get Ecce Mono, but that's an inherent risk of all art.)
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Teenage Fansub posted:Bleedingcool is showing off the extra stories in next week's Hanna Barbera crossover specials. I can't find anyone else's preview to link to instead of them. Uh are these like mature audience books?
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^ lol drat Been catching up on JL vs SS and drat new 52 eclipso is OP as gently caress Mr President fucked around with this message at 11:23 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 11:20
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Hiro Protagonist posted:
Grant Morrison.
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Is the Killer Frost in JL vs SS supposed to be the same one from The Fury of Firestorms? because uhhh this is quite a change in characterization and backstory.
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Mr President posted:Is the Killer Frost in JL vs SS supposed to be the same one from The Fury of Firestorms? because uhhh this is quite a change in characterization and backstory. It is but they can easily use the changes Rebirth is rolling out to explain it.
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Or hopefully not try and explain anything, ala Waller fat. JLA is the first comic probably 90% of readers have even begun to care about her, anyhow.
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Is Amanda Waller still a supermodel, or did they go back to middle aged fat woman?
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She's her old self for the new series with no explanation. The comic is pretty fun right now. Rob Williams is a good writer man.
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The explanation is the movie came out.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Or hopefully not try and explain anything, ala Waller fat. Are people even reading the new jla? Monster men was boring and so far the jla one shots I've read have been awful I don't think Orlando is that great of a writer.
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