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The Management posted:first priority is push integration so you can be informed on your phone when someone empty-quotes you just integrate it with yo
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Silver Alicorn posted:it was an experimental forums/imageboard pram was running for a little while that wasnt my site being 'penetration tested' it was pleasure kevins lol the source is all here i just stopped working on it shrug https://github.com/eirka
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i even wrote a packer and ansible installer for it lol https://github.com/eirka/eirka-provision/blob/master/eirka.json https://github.com/eirka/eirka-provision/blob/master/base.yml
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cool I would do something with that if I knew anything at all about webdev
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Mar 26, 2017 20:19
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Clockwerk posted:that's actually the second highest priority for migrating the forums, after the archives. dont wanna lose all my precious probes
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Mar 26, 2017 21:42
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lotta good people been hustling long and hard erryday in the probe mines you dont get to just throw all that away in the name of "progress''
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George posted:lotta good people been hustling long and hard erryday in the probe mines  
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do you know how hard it was to strike this trifecta?quote:I'm going to read the last 5 entries on your rapsheet. imagine losing that
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Mar 27, 2017 00:53
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My rap sheet must be preserved as evidence of mods crimes, like the shoah tapes
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The Management posted:the migration already happened. none of us was invited to the new forum, whose location is a secret. all the funny people moved to twitter most of the rest migrated to 
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Mar 27, 2017 22:31
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for real though, what are the technical challenges associated with a rewrite? i'm looking for purely technical reasons, not things like "it will inevitably be a buggy and feature-poor waste of time". why is a forum so hard to make?
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Mar 28, 2017 09:11
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is it caching? i bet it's caching
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Mar 28, 2017 09:13
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its the cross referencing of all the times i hosed your mother
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redleader posted:for real though, what are the technical challenges associated with a rewrite? i'm looking for purely technical reasons, not things like "it will inevitably be a buggy and feature-poor waste of time". why is a forum so hard to make? a forum is not hard to write. the main technical challenge is scaling. making it work for a ton of concurrent users is tough. the more features you add, the harder it is to scale. which brings us to the main non-technical problem, that the new forum must support every bizarre feature of this crap pile or else the sound of bitching will be deafening. so really, the technical challenge is us
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Mar 28, 2017 15:02
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The Management posted:making it work for a ton of concurrent users is tough. Given the state of things that shouldn't be as big of a problem anymore.
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I'm willing to sacrifice amberpos if it means we get more modern forums software.
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Mar 28, 2017 15:20
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The Management posted:a forum is not hard to write. the main technical challenge is scaling. making it work for a ton of concurrent users is tough. the more features you add, the harder it is to scale. which brings us to the main non-technical problem, that the new forum must support every bizarre feature of this crap pile or else the sound of bitching will be deafening. scaling isn't a challenge if you spend time before writing code to think about what gets hit a lot, and what you need to index and/or denormalize; if you're a php user or someone who just learned a good mvc stack (rails) you won't think about that, and instead write slow janky garbage you're spot on about the real problem though: users obsess over forums
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Mar 28, 2017 15:54
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i'm glad lowtax decided not to use the elixir guy, because that guy clearly though he was writing a glorified homework project
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Mar 28, 2017 16:29
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can we carry over being logged in cause anyone who has to type their password in ain't coming back
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Mar 28, 2017 16:49
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people got really inordinately mad when they changed the fonts once
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Mar 28, 2017 16:51
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Writing a small web forum is one of the easiest things you can do. Writing a big one that's not garbage is one of the most complex
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Lol I just decided to check out my old forum software vs. my new one, the old one was basically the same vBulletin version as SA is based off of and had about 40,000 LOC, the new one I use is maybe about 75% not-garbage and has 400,000 LOC
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redleader posted:for real though, what are the technical challenges associated with a rewrite? i'm looking for purely technical reasons, not things like "it will inevitably be a buggy and feature-poor waste of time". why is a forum so hard to make? its just tedious implementing all the individual features and then fixing the bugs. a forum is deceptively simple because its superficially just a CRUD application, until you realize the massive surface area. each little bullshit feature requires its own controller, model, template, etc by virtue of being a solo project it would never have the man hours behind it even 'bad' forum software has. years of user complaints and bug fixes
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according to lowtax, the costs associated with the xenforo move are related to parsing this shitheap (and the archives) in some sane way that outputs something resembling the posts as they appear now. iirc there's a shitload of custom code that handles tags and embeds and whatnot that was all heaped on top of vbulletin by radium over the course of a decade.
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Mar 28, 2017 20:15
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they should give up trying to do it the proper way and just screen scrape
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pretty good, OP
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Mar 28, 2017 20:23
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Perplx posted:they should give up trying to do it the proper way and just screen scrape a pdf of each post on the forums in a large .zip file
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Mar 28, 2017 20:25
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akadajet posted:I'm willing to sacrifice amberpos if it means we get more modern forums software. hang on now
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Mar 28, 2017 20:26
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Thanks Ants posted:hang on now death to amberpos
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Perplx posted:they should give up trying to do it the proper way and just screen scrape just use the code from awful.app to do this
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Mar 28, 2017 21:25
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that'll work as long as we never pivot the forums
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akadajet posted:I'm willing to sacrifice amberpos if it means we get more modern forums software. and as we will be splitting a pizza i am willing to sacrifice the hawaiian option so that we can have plain cheese for the vegetarians along with the sausage and mushroom option
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Mar 29, 2017 00:25
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Cat Face Joe posted:death to amberpos
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Mar 29, 2017 00:58
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greenpos supremacy
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Mar 29, 2017 01:03
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I do not think the forums rewrite is going well
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Cold on a Cob posted:greenpos supremacy
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:I do not think the forums rewrite is going well i disagree, sexy parrot. i think it is going very well
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Endless Mike posted:i disagree, sexy parrot. i think it is going very well for instance, it resulted in this thread
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its actually done. you just cant see it
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well, half a forum is done. but who'd want to see only half a production ready forum? that's just ridiculous
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