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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:In case anyone was wondering how they were going to  I mean I'm not surprised, but wow.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:00
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:From the newest beta:
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Mar 28, 2017 16:03
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Drake_263 posted:Yeah, it's one of those things that's really not documented that well. Basically while every grade (the letter, E -> A) of an item bumps up the effectiveness of the piece kit - it's about a 20% step up per grade - they also usually have other tweaks to their stats: I wanted to say thank you very much for taking the time to type this out. I didn't know there were any difference other than just "better than, more expensive than" as you went up in ratings. This is really excellent and should probably be put in the OP Also thank you to everyone else who took the time to explain things. Obviously, I haven't really done a whole lot of ship building in Elite yet. My entire experience has been about 20 missions of data / item courier runs and a few hours of Quience grinding, so I really have no clue what I'm doing outside of that.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:10
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quote:Bounty Vouchers and Combat Bonds are now awarded to MultiCrew members based on their combat rank I support this. I bet the folks crying loudest about it are the same folks who had Frontier manually reset their combat rank 
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Mar 28, 2017 16:14
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Mercurius posted:Gonna have to agree to disagree about removing the mod because your replacement mod is in no way guaranteed to be better and if you do it your way you could be stuck with a completely terrible roll as a replacement with no way to revert to the previous one. Trustworthy posted:Echoing this. "Cleaning the slate" before re-engineering a module is a really ungainly, counterproductive idea. Just learn to read the relative or absolute values; know where you're at, and what you're aiming for. After reading these two reactions I concede that I've been doing this all wrong. I've been doing it stupid and of course the right course of action is to see if you get a roll that improves your current stats before proceeding or just dismissing it. Doh! I think what had occurred in my head was that I didn't like the look of the way that he modification is presented, with previous values used as the base scores. I'd have preferred the sliders to be exactly the same every time, with the stock value in orange and any previous divergence added as a red/blue base score before the re-roll has even commenced. Anyway. I'm gonna start doing it properly from now on and not deleting my mod.
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Trustworthy posted:I support this. I bet the folks crying loudest about it are the same folks who had Frontier manually reset their combat rank I'd say the people crying the loudest about it are the same people with actual friends who they want to bring with them into the game, now hindered by a completely arbitrary grind-rank. Not like (m)any people supporting this change have this issue.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:27
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Trustworthy posted:I support this.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:32
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Internet Explorer posted:I wanted to say thank you very much for taking the time to type this out. I didn't know there were any difference other than just "better than, more expensive than" as you went up in ratings. This is really excellent and should probably be put in the OP It was a great post. As for your time spent playing so far: you're very lucky to have an AspX at this stage in the game! It must have taken me at least a month, possibly longer, to make that purchase and I remember a great feeling of accomplishment.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:36
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Pilchenstein posted:Why? As long as the reward disparity isn't insane, I'm fine with giving a spacebuck bonus to people who have put more work into the game. More importantly, in the current game, rank mostly only matters for pointless bragging rights and a few behind-the-scenes mechanics (i.e., what kind of pirates pop up). This is one way for Frontier to ascribe some lore-/immersion-friendly meaning to rank. The more experienced you are, the bigger kickback you get thanks to Pilot's Federation negotiations. It's easy as pie for newbies to gain rank, and I doubt the difference in payout between, say, Expert and Elite will be all that consequential. I predict that the current alt-brownsea outrage will be looked back on as an overreaction.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:47
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Trustworthy posted:As long as the reward disparity isn't insane, I'm fine with giving a spacebuck bonus to people who have put more work into the game. As of right now, evidence points to Competent rank getting 1/10th the normal bounty.
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apropos man posted:It was a great post. As for your time spent playing so far: you're very lucky to have an AspX at this stage in the game! It must have taken me at least a month, possibly longer, to make that purchase and I remember a great feeling of accomplishment. I think I spent my first 2 months in a Cobra just getting a feel for what I liked before going bigger. Also because the Cobra is the best ship.  Now I have a Tradeaconda, a Python that is my general do-everything ship, and an Iggle for fun space dog fighting.
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Trustworthy posted:As long as the reward disparity isn't insane, I'm fine with giving a spacebuck bonus to people who have put more work into the game. It's not a bonus, it's a spacebuck penalty to people who haven't.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:55
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Morter posted:As of right now, evidence points to Competent rank getting 1/10th the normal bounty. Well, uhhh, that's pretty steep...  I'll change my prediction to: "Frontier will realize that's dumb, and drastically reduce that disparity one or two patches down the line."
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Mar 28, 2017 16:58
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Trustworthy posted:As long as the reward disparity isn't insane, I'm fine with giving a spacebuck bonus to people who have put more work into the game. Really though, we need more to go on than just a single vague patchnote - there's any number of different ways they could have gone about this but based on all their previous decisions, I don't think concern that they might have hosed things up just to cater to the "convenience is sin" crowd is unwarranted.  Edit: Morter posted:As of right now, evidence points to Competent rank getting 1/10th the normal bounty.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:59
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Its bizarre that frontier realizes that wing payouts suck, so they are making wing members all earn the full amount but then decide that multicrew should only earn partial amounts...
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Mar 28, 2017 17:00
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Mimesweeper posted:It's not a bonus, it's a spacebuck penalty to people who haven't. The bonus is getting 100% of the possible payout. Just like it's a bonus when I don't charge these lazy turret monkeys for oxygen and gruel.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:12
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Trustworthy posted:I don't have friends and I certainly don't want those who do to help theirs
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Mar 28, 2017 17:15
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Trustworthy posted:I do not understand what bonus means, therefore suck it non-elite havers.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:19
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It's loving stupid because combat rating is just a time sink and no indication of skill at playing the game. This change literally widens the gulf between new and old players.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:23
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My friends that imagine as I cry myself to sleep are all Elite, so they don't give a poo poo. One of them just whispered in my ear: "If you're working for another, more experienced pilot and only doing a fraction of the work, why on earth wouldn't you expect a fraction of the pay (that's somewhat commensurate with your experience)?"
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:It's loving stupid because combat rating is just a time sink and no indication of skill at playing the game. This change literally widens the gulf between new and old players. That is a feature, not a bug. The goal of the Forum Dads is to make the game so unappealing and grindy that most people quit and anyone new who joins can't compete with them because they'll never catch up.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:26
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Xae posted:That is a feature, not a bug. There was a thread on the brown sea that I read a few weeks ago about how they wanted to discourage newbies from starting the game because they were worried they might not play right and then leave bad reviews when they get blown up by experienced players.
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Mike the TV posted:There was a thread on the brown sea that I read a few weeks ago about how they wanted to discourage newbies from starting the game because they were worried they might not play right and then leave bad reviews when they get blown up by experienced players. I love this. "It's good to turn the game into a corpse, as long as it's a pretty corpse."
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Mar 28, 2017 17:42
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Mike the TV posted:There was a thread on the brown sea that I read a few weeks ago about how they wanted to discourage newbies from starting the game because they were worried they might not play right and then leave bad reviews when they get blown up by experienced players.  
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I've just been kitting my Asp out for passengers in Quince because I fancied maybe doing 2000ly with a passenger. I noticed a passenger mission on the board with no reward value attached to it. "Must be a bug" I thought. "Maybe it's a bug that'll have a screwed up floating point and I'll get 17 billion CR or something" I concluded. It was an illegal passenger that only wanted to go to Quince Visitor Beacon, so I snapped it up. Jumped out of low wake at the beacon and scanned it in Silent Running mode because I'd had a warning about someone coming to kill my passenger. Got a message from my assailant at the beacon. They're supposed to be government forces and they're in a Vulture. I didn't want to stop and fight, what with this humungous mystery price tag up for stake (first time I've had something like this in over 6 months play), so I jumped out to a random system and jumped back into Quince again and headed for Millerport to complete the mission. Decided on a screengrab before I dock and release my glorious reward:  Then jumped out at Millerport, lined myself up with the mailbox from about 10Km away and schnurgled into base in Silent Running mode. All is good, so I go to the passenger board and claim my mystery prize:  Negative 741 Credits.  EDIT: There's actually another one without a price on the boards, same detail:  Must be a recurring bug. apropos man fucked around with this message at 18:20 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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apropos man posted:I've just been kitting my Asp out for passengers in Quince because I fancied maybe doing 2000ly with a passenger. That mission is just for engineer stuff no credits.
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Never seen them with no credits before. Although I might have instinctively hit refuel and that's where the 741 CR went. Can't believe I've never noticed a zero payout mission before now.
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Drake_263 posted:I'm proud to announce that I managed to land my iClipper on a planetary body for the very first time and I only just barely glanced a hill on the final approach. Thank you for this! Deleting those extra "mode" columns did the trick! The pinkie trigger works properly and I now have the clutch set up for Flight and Combat, swapping buttons around for better functionality!  apropos man posted:Never seen them with no credits before. Although I might have instinctively hit refuel and that's where the 741 CR went. Can't believe I've never noticed a zero payout mission before now. Yeah, I think you just agreed to fly that guy out there (at great personal risk) and he didn't even cover fuel costs...
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Grogs don't wanna have fu-uuun ♫♪♫
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Morter posted:Grogs don't wanna have fu-uuun ♫♪♫
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You have to earn your fun, friends.
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'Working' at a video game. I think the issue is that gamers have been allowed to think that gaming is a hobby. It isn't. It's a toy.
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It is interesting how the sentiment is against such behavior in MMO's (basically power leveling) but for it in Elite. I don't really give two fucks how they implement it, I'll probably never really do multicrew stuff anyway, but from a distance it really highlights the fact that both the frontier forums, and our very own forum (really just gamers in general) should really never ever be in charge of game design. 
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Strategic Tea posted:I think the issue is that gamers have been allowed to think that gaming is a hobby. It isn't. It's a toy. Whoa, it's the king of video games who defines what they are and how we must experience them
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Trustworthy posted:Whoa, it's the king of video games who defines what they are and how we must experience them I like his way a lot more than "noobs totally have it easy and my memory of the grind is perfectly accurate". Basically, gamers are like GBS, both must be nuked.
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The goal of the Forum Dad/grognard squad is to kill the game. If no one else is playing than by default they are the most successful people in the game and then they win. They want to game to be so unpleasant that everyone else quits so they can be rewarded for being the most hardcore supporters. The sooner Frontier realizes this the sooner the game starts getting better.
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