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Why ban cards in commander at all? It seems like a format that doesn't these types of actions considering that point of playing doesn't appear to be winning anyway.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:41
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The Shortest Path posted:Duel Commander is actually a great format that a lot of people play and enjoy. It's hard reading this with a straight face knowing it's not sarcasm Commander in my experience is that it's a format where it's OK for you to do a thing and work to achieve that goal but if someone disrupts it or stops you from doing it then the other person complains incessantly or just scoops because "You prevented me from doing (insert thing)"
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Mar 28, 2017 16:45
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Sickening posted:Why ban cards in commander at all? It seems like a format that doesn't these types of actions considering that point of playing doesn't appear to be winning anyway. Casual formats always have people who want to make up rules to tell other people how to have fun.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:45
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80s James Hetfield posted:It's hard reading this with a straight face knowing it's not sarcasm Yeah that's not Duel Commander at all. It's basically singleton legacy, an actual competitive format, that takes itself seriously instead of being a group hug funsies format like multiplayer Commander is. It's pretty off the radar as far as sanctioning or whatever goes, but it has the occasional big tournament in places. 
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Mar 28, 2017 16:49
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Sickening posted:Why ban cards in commander at all? It seems like a format that doesn't these types of actions considering that point of playing doesn't appear to be winning anyway. 80s James Hetfield posted:Commander in my experience is that it's a format where it's OK for you to do a thing and work to achieve that goal but if someone disrupts it or stops you from doing it then the other person complains incessantly or just scoops because "You prevented me from doing (insert thing)" It's just a shame since there's an entire genre of parallel "racing" euro games that have varying degress of interaction (via worker placement or direct conflict or area control or other forms of abstraction) but lots of people will doggedly stick to their MTG TM branded version which was never made to be played that way. And they all cost $20-100 which is much cheaper than all but the preconstructed EDH decks. 
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Mar 28, 2017 16:53
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Sickening posted:Why ban cards in commander at all? It seems like a format that doesn't these types of actions considering that point of playing doesn't appear to be winning anyway. The best part of commander is building decks with the goal of winning and having people get mad at you.
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Mar 28, 2017 16:59
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I play stop that and ashnods coupon in my edh deck
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Mar 28, 2017 17:02
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Molybdenum posted:I play stop that and ashnods coupon in my edh deck Good. I have a bunch of cards to put together Frankie Peanuts but have yet to find the perfect playgroup to show up to and be that guy at.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:03
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Sickening posted:Okay, who has played this janky deck? http://www.channelfireball.com/videos/modern-monday-krark-clan-combo/
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Mar 28, 2017 17:04
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I've recently been on a crusade to get Paradox Engine officially banned, because I am evil. Also, I love playing the card and am abusing the gently caress out of it until it is. I'm trying to figure out the maximum troll value out of the card, and probably want to make a Leovold elf-ball tribal.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:05
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Do we have a formal wording for Embalm yet? It sounds like it "creates a token that is a copy of this creature that is also a zombie" and as such copies things like CMC? Edit: willing to bet right now there will be a mythic that gives all your creatures Embalm. BizarroAzrael fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 17:30
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Every time I've been asked to play EDH it's been like I'm being asked for money to buy meth or something. "C'mon man I need my fix off this elfball deck that I've been playing every weekend for years going off." Then if you agree to play and have a deck that is significantly interactive outside of sorcery-speed board resets you get reactions like you just flushed their stash right in front of them.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:44
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Sickening posted:Why ban cards in commander at all? It seems like a format that doesn't these types of actions considering that point of playing doesn't appear to be winning anyway. The cards that are on the current ban list are all either ultra feelbad, or enable turn 1 wins (channel when you have 40 life is the obvious example). The current banlist is fine! When stuff like Prophet of Kruphix gets printed that needs to see a ban, but since that's just a far better version of seedborn muse (a fine card!) that kind of ban makes sense. Sol Ring will never see a ban as it's been reprinted in every single commander product, and while super powered, it is an important staple of the format. Plus, ~If everyone's super, nobody is~
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Mar 28, 2017 17:48
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BizarroAzrael posted:Do we have a formal wording for Embalm yet? It sounds like it "creates a token that is a copy of this creature that is also a zombie" and as such copies things like CMC? White zombie token, same P/T, no CMC.
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Mar 28, 2017 17:52
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See, we didn't even make one full page before we came to the consensus that commander is dumb poo poo for idiots (I even played it over the weekend, jokes on me) 80s James Hetfield fucked around with this message at 18:16 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 17:57
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En Fuego posted:I've recently been on a crusade to get Paradox Engine officially banned, because I am evil. Also, I love playing the card and am abusing the gently caress out of it until it is. Unless you literally play with Sheldon you probably can't get anything banned
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Mar 28, 2017 18:20
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I heard rumors about this, but sucks that it's true. KMC has gone to poo poo since being sold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWIBDVkGUY I'm a DS man myself, but balls to KMC.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:23
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ShaneB posted:I heard rumors about this, but sucks that it's true. KMC has gone to poo poo since being sold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWIBDVkGUY As a fan of double sleeving, it does loving suck. I bought a poo poo load of the old KMC's I liked at 3 a piece due to an amazon sale, when those run out its going to suck. The dragon shield just doesn't double sleeve very well.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:27
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Sickening posted:As a fan of double sleeving, it does loving suck. I bought a poo poo load of the old KMC's I liked at 3 a piece due to an amazon sale, when those run out its going to suck. The dragon shield just doesn't double sleeve very well. Dragon Shield Copper and Turquoise are weirdly the only non-matte DS's that double sleeve awesomely. They are visibly different from every other smooth-backed DS with less curve as well. I double sleeve every modern deck I own in Coppers.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:28
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Double sleeving is just a huge pain in the rear end that isn't ever worth doing, imo. Don't play your Modern deck with a Coke with a flimsy lid on the table.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:28
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mossyfisk posted:Just lol that MaRo's 'wait and see' reason for no graveyard hate was "we wanted to make sure graveyard strategies would be good". This is why I'm not convinced they're actually going to be able to turn Standard around. Between Maro doubling down on how printing hate is bad and Stoddard claiming that the real problem was new rotation, it doesn't seem like they're listening to the community or recognizing that lack of answers was a mistake.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:30
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ShaneB posted:I heard rumors about this, but sucks that it's true. KMC has gone to poo poo since being sold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWIBDVkGUY I've used them exclusively for a few years but they've really been terrible for the better part of a year, if not more. I've had more sleeves split in a month than I have in the entire almost 20 years I've been playing with sleeves. I've been trying other brands lately and I think ultra pro mattes were the ones I've liked most but I don't actually remember off the top of my head. suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 18:29
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Angry Grimace posted:Double sleeving is just a huge pain in the rear end that isn't ever worth doing, imo. Don't play your Modern deck with a Coke with a flimsy lid on the table. There is a ton of poo poo that falls into sleeves, too. My double sleeved cards will get grit on the top of the inner sleeve that would otherwise be on the cards. And once it's done, it's done. I basically just throw a cheap KMC perfect fit on any card worth anything, and keep all my actively good modern cards sleeved up in a deck anyway, and just swap manabases and other staples between decks. suicidesteve posted:I've used them exclusively for a few years but they've really been sucking for the better part of a year, if not more. I've had more sleeves split in a month than I have in the entire almost 20 years I've been playing with sleeves. I've been buying other brands to try out lately. Again, I'd highly recommend DS Coppers for chill dulcet tones, or Turquoise if you like brighter colors.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:31
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Lottery of Babylon posted:This is why I'm not convinced they're actually going to be able to turn Standard around. Between Maro doubling down on how printing hate is bad and Stoddard claiming that the real problem was new rotation, it doesn't seem like they're listening to the community or recognizing that lack of answers was a mistake. The actual problem is that they don't like answers that feel unfun; e.g. proactive things you can do to stop your opponents game plan. The only answers they are willing to print are reactive 1 for 1s or deploying your own strategy bigger and/or faster.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:32
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I heard similar complaints about KMCs at my last FNM. I like them a lot but could probably stand to re-sleeve a couple decks. Should've done it sooner!
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Mar 28, 2017 18:34
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Angry Grimace posted:The actual problem is that they don't like answers that feel unfun; e.g. proactive things you can do to stop your opponents game plan. The only answers they are willing to print are reactive 1 for 1s or deploying your own strategy bigger and/or faster. Which makes any kind of recursive creature, or anything that brings friends along harder to answer. Embalm is probably just going to be a nightmare if you hate grindy value decks.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:35
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Angry Grimace posted:Double sleeving is just a huge pain in the rear end that isn't ever worth doing, imo. Don't play your Modern deck with a Coke with a flimsy lid on the table. I use to think the same thing until I tried it with KMC. I am not even a stickler on card condition but even I can recognize that putting a card in a perfect fit removes almost all chances its going to get dinged up even from play or while changing sleeves (the protection from spills was just a bonus). It was basically just perfect fit and forget. They even figured out how to make the process of double sleeving easy because I didn't even have issues with the perfect fit trying to push out when sleeving anymore. Trying to double sleeve in dragon shields just leads to the old frustration of the inner sleeve wanting to pop out. gently caress that.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:39
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Angry Grimace posted:Double sleeving is just a huge pain in the rear end that isn't ever worth doing, imo. Don't play your Modern deck with a Coke with a flimsy lid on the table. I don't own half the cards I play with so I'm not taking any chances with them.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:50
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BizarroAzrael posted:Do we have a formal wording for Embalm yet? It sounds like it "creates a token that is a copy of this creature that is also a zombie" and as such copies things like CMC? I don't know the actual oracle text, but my guess is that the reminder text is: "Embalm 2W (2W, exile this card from your graveyard: create a token that's a copy of this creature except its white, its a zombie in addition to its other types, and it has no mana cost. Embalm only as a sorcery.)" I don't actually know if the exile is part of the cost or happens on resolution, but my guess is that it's part of the cost in order to not let it get around Disallow. I guess they could make a Yawgmoth's Will variant with embalm if they wanted to: Bolas' Will 1B Each creature card in your graveyard gains embalm until end of turn. The embalm cost is equal to its mana cost. TheKingofSprings posted:I don't own half the cards I play with so I'm not taking any chances with them. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 18:52
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ShaneB posted:I heard rumors about this, but sucks that it's true. KMC has gone to poo poo since being sold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XWIBDVkGUY drat no more KMCs for me. The ones I have seem to be holding up pretty well but I think it's time to try out the Eclipse series. I personally dislike the graphic sleeves but my girlfriend likes them.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:56
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pr0digal posted:drat no more KMCs for me. The ones I have seem to be holding up pretty well but I think it's time to try out the Eclipse series. I personally dislike the graphic sleeves but my girlfriend likes them. I ordered the pink eclipses off amazon just now and I guess that is what I am sleeving up for this weekend.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:56
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I mostly just use single-sleeved Dragon Shield Mattes. I used to double sleeve KMCs but its just such a time sink to get the perfect fits on and off when you change cards in your deck.
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Mar 28, 2017 18:57
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Angry Grimace posted:I mostly just use single-sleeved Dragon Shield Mattes. I used to double sleeve KMCs but its just such a time sink to get the perfect fits on and off when you change cards in your deck. Perfect fits are like 3 bucks for 100, why are you ever taking them off?
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Mar 28, 2017 18:58
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Star Man posted:You can now hide your white border shame. Can they make these, but make your border white on all your cards instead?
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Mar 28, 2017 18:59
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Sickening posted:I ordered the pink eclipses off amazon just now and I guess that is what I am sleeving up for this weekend. A box of 8 are like $39 from potomac distro. That's crazy cheap! (although like $10 shipping) My main issue with the Eclipse ones is the inner black lining doesn't let any crazy color choice show through around the card when it's being played. 
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Mar 28, 2017 19:00
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Mezzanon posted:Can they make these, but make your border white on all your cards instead? uPen posted:
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Mar 28, 2017 19:04
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Have any of you tried double sleeving Dragon Shields with the new Dragon Shield perfect fit? I really like the apple green but I read that I'll need to use a perfect fit smoke back in them because the apple green aren't fully opaque.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:08
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*Crosses fingers for sand duals*
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Mar 28, 2017 19:08
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KillarySwank posted:*Crosses fingers for sand duals* Probably just going to get the other color fast lands (highly doubtful) or the BFZ tapped unless you have 2 or more basics 80s James Hetfield fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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Mar 28, 2017 19:32
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Can anyone who was playing at the time explain to me why Coldsnap exists? It seems so bizzare to release a tiny set that was tied into Ice Age from 11 years prior.
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Mar 28, 2017 19:42
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