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Once you live in a place that has them for very long you become desensitized to it pretty quickly. If we had freaked out every single time there was a warning we'd have spent half the summer hiding in the basement. The breathless coverage by the weather guy does genuinely get pretty irritating once you've seen enough warnings to know when you shouldn't or shouldn't actually take it seriously (which isn't to say you can't still be caught of guard, but as mentioned above you kinda just learn to live with that, kinda like how I've now learned to accept that there's a remote possibility the earth will eventually break open and swallow all of Southern California)
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Here, have some "Holy poo poo. This is not a drill" messages. First set are from this incident: quote:Despite these safeguards, the system was accidentally activated at 9:33 a.m. Eastern Standard Time on February 20, 1971.[3] Teletype operator W. S. Eberhardt "played the wrong tape" during a test, which sent an activation message authenticated with the codeword "HATEFULNESS" through the entire system, ordering stations to cease regular programming and broadcast the alert of a national emergency.[4] A cancellation message was sent at 9:59 a.m. EST, but it used an incorrect codeword. A cancellation message with the correct word, "IMPISH", was not sent until 10:13 a.m. EST[4] After 40 minutes and six incorrect cancellation messages, the accidental activation was terminated. WCCO out of Minneapolis kinda going "Yeah this isn't real" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8G7D21UwW0 WOWO out of Ft.Wayne, Indiana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu4r79l8P8I The message itself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgovEUZ7jz0 1985. Somehow someone got a hold of WGN's old tape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TTEWRKnRC0 Apparently during the Cuban Missile Crisis, Conelrad was legit activated and people were told to be ready, but I've yet to find actual audio or video recordings of such. For a very thorough history of this whole ordeal? I highly recommend Oddity Archive's video on this btw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7XzCvOtEJU e: My preemptive apologies on drifting so far off topic from sports, but this stuff is very fascinating to me.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:25 |
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Oh man, one of the engineers I worked with in my radio days was at WOWO when that happened, I gotta ask him about that sometime.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:39 |
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Lmao tornadoes aren't scary unless you're in moore then
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:42 |
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Alright, time for a little 101 on EAS (and broadcast in general). So, if you're running a broadcast station (meaning it has a callsign, usually 4 letters starting with W or K depend on where you are), there's several things you need to do. First off, every hour at the top of the hour, you have to identify your station. This is most noticeable when listening to sports on the radio when you'll hear a "Pause 10 seconds for station identification" around that time. This consists of the callsign letters and the city of license. For example, WGN would be "WGN Chicago" or WJJO (Madison, WI, area station) is "WJJO Watertown". You can't have any words between them. TV can get around this by displaying a graphic saying the same thing, or why you see it show up at the top of the hour during sportscasts and other broadcasts that do not have commercials at the top of the hour (read: there's no audio requirement). This extends to EAS alerts, somewhat. There's two alerts that are in use today that preempt programming: Tornado and Severe Thunderstorm warnings. Once those are received by the EAS receiver, they are immediately rebroadcast (watches can be delayed to a "reasonable" point, aka between songs for radio, but will automatically broadcast if they haven't within 15 minutes). Once the warning is active, the station is required to remind listeners or viewers of the warning until it is expired. For radio, this is usually between songs, and the station I was at it was usually every other. TV this is the ticker on the bottom. Also, if the station is manned at the time of a severe weather warning, it must be manned until all warnings in the area (which is a list of specific counties) are gone. However, because of the severity of tornadoes compared to a traditional severe thunderstorm, stations take extra precaution on them and have their weather people on screen for the duration.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:47 |
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Radio crreeeeewwwwwwwww
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 19:52 |
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As someone in Columbus, it was mostly frustrating because they cut into the game to have the guy basically read the poo poo that had been scrolling across the top of the screen for the last 30 minutes or so. And also because they cut away from the game video and then couldn't get the studio video to work so it was just a blank screen with that same scroll while this bozo read it aloud to us.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 20:05 |
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FuzzySkinner posted:Ohio is unusual. So I live in DFW which means we see our fair share of tornado warnings. Luckily, where I live at least, we've been very fortunate with the lack of touch downs (had one the first week I moved here last year and none since then). Our last year in our apartment our complex got shook (building literally felt like it was shaking for a few seconds, which by the way is loving terrifying) by one that passed by 35E near Carrollton/Lewisville and it was fairly minor. Back when I was living in CT they had a tornado touch down in Bridgeport Connecticut. A bunch of us made the joke that "if a tornado went through Bridgeport would anyone even notice?" but in all seriousness it did a fair deal of damage. Our local weather guy absolutely adores taking people to task for bitching about cut ins to sports and frankly I agree with him. I'm of the attitude that if a tornado touches down, people needed to be warned ASAP. Even if it's a lower category tornado, you don't want to get caught out in it. Having it broadcast on TV certainly reduces the risk of someone trying to leave their house after the game in case they were waiting for it to end. Now do I think you need a six minute cut away when the feed isn't even working? Nah. Once you know your feed is jacked, cut the audio to the game, blare the alert system noise and keep the ticker going. When the sirens are going off outside, people need to understand that your local station is probably going to cut in and inform everyone. MourningView posted:Once you live in a place that has them for very long you become desensitized to it pretty quickly. If we had freaked out every single time there was a warning we'd have spent half the summer hiding in the basement. The breathless coverage by the weather guy does genuinely get pretty irritating once you've seen enough warnings to know when you shouldn't or shouldn't actually take it seriously (which isn't to say you can't still be caught of guard, but as mentioned above you kinda just learn to live with that, kinda like how I've now learned to accept that there's a remote possibility the earth will eventually break open and swallow all of Southern California) Yeah I've grown to just be used to it now. I think I've had to hide in a closet/bathtub like six times since I've lived here. Once was, hilariously, two days after I moved here. Our general rule is when the sirens start going on, we go into the downstairs bathroom, which is the safe room in the house. But warnings aren't enough. Hilariously, even if we hear sirens, because of the ways they've gerrymandered the loving districts, we have to listen for the far away sirens as opposed to the ones close to us. Akileese fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Yeah storm warnings of any kind can certainly get a little tiring with the BLIZZARD'S COMING, GOTTA GET THE BREAD AND MILK sensationalism, but if they're going to err on any side, better to be that of caution. E: to get back on topic, DirecTV will have 25 MLB games in 4k this year. First games are as follows: quote:4/4 – Cubs @ Cardinals DJExile fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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DJExile posted:Yeah storm warnings of any kind can certainly get a little tiring with the BLIZZARD'S COMING, GOTTA GET THE BREAD AND MILK sensationalism, but if they're going to err on any side, better to be that of caution. Chicago, LA/Chicago, DC/NYC, NYC/Boston, and Chicago/Boston. I mean, yeah, they could have thrown the white sox a bone but I don't blame them for their choices there.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 21:13 |
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I think it's really smart for DirecTV to push the 4k angle because a lot of cable providers foolishly bet on HD being the end of TV improvements and have sold, leased, or just don't have the bandwidth to go 4k any time soon. But they also aren't big enough to motivate the content providers to produce more 4k stuff either, which is a bummer.
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 21:44 |
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sportsgenius86 posted:As someone in Columbus, it was mostly frustrating because they cut into the game to have the guy basically read the poo poo that had been scrolling across the top of the screen for the last 30 minutes or so. And also because they cut away from the game video and then couldn't get the studio video to work so it was just a blank screen with that same scroll while this bozo read it aloud to us. poo poo happens that sucks glad my house is still attached to its foundation
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# ? Mar 27, 2017 22:10 |
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Rick posted:I think it's really smart for DirecTV to push the 4k angle because a lot of cable providers foolishly bet on HD being the end of TV improvements and have sold, leased, or just don't have the bandwidth to go 4k any time soon. But they also aren't big enough to motivate the content providers to produce more 4k stuff either, which is a bummer. After the 3DTV bubble crashed and burned, I can't really blame providers for being hesitant to go all-in on 4K, which could be the next big thing but could just as easily be another passing fad.
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Benne posted:After the 3DTV bubble crashed and burned, I can't really blame providers for being hesitant to go all-in on 4K, which could be the next big thing but could just as easily be another passing fad. If It is the next big thing, prices will eventually drop. It may survive if only because of the computer industry pushing it
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 00:55 |
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Verizon Fios is going to roll out test channels in 4k soon too
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 01:17 |
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Benne posted:After the 3DTV bubble crashed and burned, I can't really blame providers for being hesitant to go all-in on 4K, which could be the next big thing but could just as easily be another passing fad. Which is another reason to hate 3D because it was purely a hubris play on the part of the TV industry who thought they could sell consumers something they didn't really demonstrate that they wanted at home. Whereas there definitely seems to be a demand for 4k. It is a passing fad though, simply because in less than 10 years 8K TVs will be under $1,000. Not that there will be anything to watch on them. My hope is they figure out some way to make the broadcast backwards compatible and build the TV infrastructure to 8k but that might be a fantasy. Rick fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Mar 28, 2017 |
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iospace posted:If It is the next big thing, prices will eventually drop. It may survive if only because of the computer industry pushing it It also doesn't require extra hardware in addition to the TV, unlike the majority of the 3D tv's.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 05:23 |
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Benne posted:After the 3DTV bubble crashed and burned, I can't really blame providers for being hesitant to go all-in on 4K, which could be the next big thing but could just as easily be another passing fad. Well 4K is different because resolution improvements are actually the future but people have been falling for 3D WILL CHANGE EVERYTHING once a decade since the loving 50s
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 05:26 |
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You'll know a piece of technology is A Thing once porn goes all-in on it.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 19:51 |
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C. Everett Koop posted:You'll know a piece of technology is A Thing once porn goes all-in on it. So... VR then.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 19:57 |
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iospace posted:So... VR then. VR was built almost exclusively for porn as far as i'm concerned
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 20:03 |
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This is an interesting development https://twitter.com/NBCOlympics/status/846809012796575749 Guess they were that shook by Rio's disappointing ratings
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:04 |
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I don't even know what 4K is to be honest, people bought HD tvs because the difference between that and a regular old tv was astounding. Surely 4K isn't that much better than HD?
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:11 |
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Nolan Arenado posted:I don't even know what 4K is to be honest, people bought HD tvs because the difference between that and a regular old tv was astounding. Surely 4K isn't that much better than HD? It's nearly 4x the resolution of 1080p. A little more than the difference between 480p and 720p.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:23 |
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Kibner posted:It's nearly 4x the resolution of 1080p. A little more than the difference between 480p and 720p. That is really misleading unless your tv is the size of the loving wall though.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:26 |
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Nolan Arenado posted:I don't even know what 4K is to be honest, people bought HD tvs because the difference between that and a regular old tv was astounding. Surely 4K isn't that much better than HD? Practically, right now the difference isn't all that noticeable. In the future it will be a more obvious thing but with movies and TV shows (particularly when you're sitting like ten feet from a 50" TV) there's only so much a resolution increase can do. It's a much more obvious thing if you're sitting in front of a computer and using a 4k display for that.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:28 |
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Good resolution is for nerds imo
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:34 |
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You definitely can notice 4k but it doesn't make HD feel like garbage the way HD makes SD look bad (and it difficult to tell by looking if a sporting event took place in the 70s or 90s with a glance).
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:38 |
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It looks nice, but it's also in conflict with streaming, which to a gigantic chunk of people has problems with speeds and data caps that will limit the market. I suspect that it will become the new standard for televisions eventually, but I'm less optimistic that content will be available much beyond the push 3D got.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 21:42 |
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Kalli posted:It looks nice, but it's also in conflict with streaming, which to a gigantic chunk of people has problems with speeds and data caps that will limit the market. Except for video games and Netflix and Amazon, anyway.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 22:14 |
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I think in 10 years time, maybe 15, 4k will be the standard, similar to how 1080p right now. For all intents and purposes, it's easier to make a single lens camera, hell, it's easy to just adapt a prior model to have a new photosensor in it to record in 4k. Buuuuuut. Kalli posted:It looks nice, but it's also in conflict with streaming, which to a gigantic chunk of people has problems with speeds and data caps that will limit the market. Given ISPs are the predominant form of non-broadcast television providers today and they absolutely hate upgrading equipment and instead prefer to give you the shaft, I see this being the ultimate bottleneck. The technology to support it is there, in that 4k cameras and TVs do exist, but the want for the company that gets it from the camera to the TV isn't.
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# ? Mar 28, 2017 22:15 |
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DJExile posted:VR was built almost exclusively for porn as far as i'm concerned
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# ? Mar 29, 2017 01:15 |
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ESPN is about to axe more on-air personalities http://www.orlandosentinel.com/busi..._source=twitter
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 16:41 |
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FlamingLiberal posted:ESPN is about to axe more on-air personalities IF YOU TOUCH HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE I'LL BE VERY UPSET.
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 16:55 |
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iospace posted:IF YOU TOUCH HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE I'LL BE VERY UPSET. Le Batard's TV and radio shows seem to have become proving grounds for new personalities that will go on to become ESPN fixtures. Cutting either might make it harder for ESPN to find or test out newer (presumably cheaper) faces to keep the talking head shows going.
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:09 |
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oh thank god woody paige is safe
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:32 |
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Yeah I hope they don't touch the radio show, especially since it replaced Cowherd in the 'prime' time slot
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:32 |
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That report initially came out weeks ago Considering Mike and Mike are about to break up I'd say Le Batard's safe, since those are the two big ESPN Radio slots Speaking of which here's Greenberg talking about the reports about his future http://www.sportingnews.com/other-s...uc1hgshep2r8fpl
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# ? Apr 2, 2017 18:46 |
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Please fire Danny Kanell
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ESPN: We overpaid so much for sports we're going to have to fire 75% of the people who talk about the sports that we overpaid to show.
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